I think your math is off, Cerin. If I remember right, a +1 returning weapon counts a +2 weapon in regards to cost, the same for a +1 flaming weapon, so both the scimitar and the dagger have an enhancement cost of 8000 gold.
The dagger is cold iron, so the first enchant, the +1, is double the cost, a +1 costs 2000 gold, so that gets bumped to 4000 gold, raising the cost of the enchants to 10000 gold. The cold iron doubles the cost of the weapon so for the dagger, full price is at 10,304 gold. The scimitar is 8,315 gold, unless it's made of something besides steel or iron.
So, if we agree to the trade, we only get 224 gp, and split five ways, that makes for 44 gold and 8 silver each.
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(sigh) Yeah, that's what I get for trying to figure this out first thing in the morning before I've woken up completely...
I was looking at just a +1 scimitar, forgot about flaming. It's a very good deal, but I don't think I want to take up all of everyone's share. I can always come back to get it later.
It is a good deal, and one I'd hate to ask someone to pass up on, but we're only second level, and 1000 gold apiece isn't too shabby all things considered.
Besides that, I think giving Gwyn whatever feats she needs to enchant arms and armor would be a sound investment since we could get the enchants for half-price.
Well I definitely wouldn't mind getting a hold of that mitheral chain considering how often I put myself on the front lines lmao.
Ack! I forgot the dagger was cold iron! Gwyn's math is correct: the +1 cold iron returning dagger has a book price of 10,304; the +1 flaming scimitar has a book price of 8,315.
Now, her offer of trade still wasn't too shabby; selling the dagger would normally net you only 5,152 gp, and you'd be getting 8,315 gp in trade for it. However, I was planning to offer you a more-or-less even trade for it, so let me update the Gameplay thread...
Okay-- I am in the process of updating the Loot List, to try to figure out how much each of you have...
It looks like the following items haven't yet been claimed by anyone or yet sold...
From the fight in the Glassworks...
a dagger
one set of masterwork panpipes
one artist's drawing kit
From the Catacombs...
one potion of hide from undead
an alchemical silver dagger
a masterwork handaxe
a wand of wand of resize item with 20 charges. (Gwyn is the only one who can use this right now without making DC 20 Use Magic Device check.)
From the goblin ambush...
6 flasks of alchemist's fire
3 flasks of acid
12 tindertwigs
a masterwork alchemical silver dagger
4 potions of cure light wounds
2 potions of jump
an oil of darkness
There is an offer on the table from Savah to trade the +1 cold iron returning dagger plus two charges off the wand of resize item for a +1 flaming scimitar plus a mithril chain shirt.
Thinking long game here, I am inclined to agree with Haladir. While Cerin getting the +1 Flaming Scimitar would be a disproportionate amount of wealth in one PC's hands, it increases our overall party wealth by 3,000 gp (more if the mithril shirt is in play).
Cerin will have a weapon that will last him for several levels, and thus won't need any weaponry from any future loot for quite some time. And if it turns out we are getting stomped without having it, we can sell it in the future and we'll have only lost about 1,000 gp (not even that, with the mithril shirt in play).
Anyway, that's my two cents on the matter. If the majority would still like to split things evenly, that's fine, as well.
Go for it. I can wait a bit for some more ranged umph.
I've had a rather rough few weeks. My home situation is growing ever more hostile due to a particular family member moving back in, and I've found out that I won't have my job much longer due to there being no funding for it. So I'm looking for a job and a house, both of which are pretty unattainable right now - I can't get a home loan because I have no reliable income, and I can't get a job because I'm inexperienced in everything that's hiring. I've been stressed to high heaven at work, and when I get home, I've wanted to do nothing but sleep.
I'm still around, but I'm pretty absent right now, and trying to get my life back on track, and to not post when I'm feeling so depressed (which is pretty frequently). Please be patient with me. I'm trying to work my way back into everything.
Trust me, I know how that feels, and it sucks. Just keep your head up and moving, and you'll be fine.
I am really, really sorry to hear about that. I can't really offer anything on the home front other than it might be useful to sit down with everyone and calmly lay out your issues I can't guarantee this will work, but just letting things fester won't help.
As for the job hunt, apply anyway if you have the skill. The worst that will happen is they say no, and you might be surprised by the willingness of some companies to invest the time to train you in the skills you need as long as you show that you're in for the long haul.
And one piece of advice I will give, and I sincerely hope you take because I know this from experience, is to talk to others even when you're depressed. Keeping it to yourself does no one any good, and it may be hard to open up, even a little, but you're not alone, and you don't have to suffer in silence. I count you as a friend, and I hope you do the same. I'm not going to judge you, or anyone. We're all human, and we all have our faults. God commands us to love others as ourselves. I can't fly to Australia on a whim, but I can offer my ear and any advice that I have.
So sorry to hear things aren't going so well, Ronnie. We're all here to listen if you need to vent. Take all the time you need.
Fifthed!
All the issues are out in the open. We're just all very stubborn. My mother is in her mid-forties, and my stepfather is in his mid-fifties, so they're pretty set in their ways. Old dogs, new tricks, yadda yadda. And merging families when all four of your daughters are in their twenties isn't a terribly great idea.
I'm trying for jobs, and just getting rejection letter after rejection letter. It gets disheartening, and it becomes harder to stick at it. And I'm trying really hard not to just withdraw when I'm depressed, but damn, it's hard to talk to people when you just don't feel like doing anything.
On the topic of moving on, I think I burned a few resources on the battle earlier. Not sure whether to vote for waiting, or moving on.
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Take it from someone who suffers from depression. don't do that. It only makes things worse. That said, I really don't know what to tell you on the job front. Maybe look into getting a part time job at a restaurant or retail store as a stop gap until you can find a job that is more secure with better pay. If nothing else, it should ease up some of the pressure from certain people.
One thing that might be worth looking into is writing. You've got a knack for interesting characters and engaging writing. I always look forward to roleplaying with your characters. A good story will sell, but there are a few things, one of which is be prepared for long waits and rejection when you get started. Unless you go the self-publishing route, but that has it's own set of issues.
Just an idea, feel free to ignore it. :)
As for the game, I think we can at least get the goblins cleared out, though we'll need to use a good bit of caution.
Hey, folks. I haven't forgotten about you. The maps are just taking a lot longer to put together than I wanted. It's against the Community Use Policy to post Paizo's printed maps, and I haven't found maps made by other people that I'm satisfied with.
I am really hoping to get the maps finished tomorrow or Thursday, with a new Gameplay post shortly thereafter.
Haven't heard from here in a while. Everyone ok?
I'm doing okay.
Yep.
Glad to see you're all okay. What about Haladir? Everything okay there? And what about you Helena? How're you doing? And where'd Halvor's quiet tongue go? *looks around for the silent man*
Hmmmm...what was that? Doing fine over here...just waiting on Haladir, I think.
I'm doing pretty okay, for once. Guess we're just waiting on our GM, then.
Sorry for going dark, folks.
I'd rather not get into details on a public forum (even one where my real identity is masked), but life took an unexpected and unpleasant turn last week. I feel like I was figuratively sucker-punched. I've needed to focus my energy there, and not on gaming forums. (And, no, this isn't related to the Ashley Madison hack.)
I think things have settled down for now, and I'll try to get some posts up shortly. Honestly, the distraction of GMing should be good for me right now.
On a completely unrelated and positive note, I'll be hosting a foreign exchange student from India starting next week! I know TTRPGs aren't really a thing in South Asia, so maybe I can infect him with the gaming bug.
Dang. I'm sorry to hear about things going way south form the sounds of it. I hope that you and yours are okay, or will be okay.
It's probably safe to share a little as long as I'm sufficeintly vague...
I wrote a letter to the editor of a newspaper taking a somewhat radical posiiton on a locally-controversial topic. Unfortunately, some people took offense at my position, and somewone formed an Internet trolling mob that started harassing me on social media. I am thankful that 4Chan or Anonymous didn't get involved. I didn't get doxxed or SWATted, but the death threats were bad enough. Needless to say, I was not interested in turning on a computer while it was going on.
It seems to have pretty much died down now.
Wow, that's... Frankly that's terrifying. Whatever happened to open discussion?
Wow, that's... Frankly that's terrifying. Whatever happened to open discussion?
That's why I said that I felt like I got sucker-punched.
I've written scores of letters to the editor over the years, and never thought twice about it before! Honestly, I'm going to think twice now.
Well crap, I honestly wouldn't write another after that one. But that's just me.
Oh, jeez. That sounds terrifying. :/ I don't blame you for wanting to avoid the internet. I'm glad it seems to have settled!
Sorry for disappearing again. Life is a little complicated for me now. One thing that had been discouraging me from posting here was guilt over my stalled Ravenloft campaign. I just pulled the plug on that game, so I should hopefully have more mental capacity for this one. I plan to resume this game shortly.
Thanks for understanding!
No problem. I completely understand the guilt thing.
I look forward to getting this going again. I miss playing Gwyn and Fluff.
I know right? Feel free to post for me over the next few days if need be. I caught a bug that's made it hard for me to breathe, so my time at the computer is fairly limited.
I'm sorry to do this to you guys, but I have to back out for a long while. I just had my world destroyed and playing games isn't something I can do right now. Hopefully I may be able to come back, but I can't say for sure right now.
I am so sorry to hear that you're hurting. I'd ask if you're OK, but it really sounds like you're not.
Take all the time you need.
We're here as a sounding board for you if you want to write about it.
You are in my thoughts and prayers.
Sorry to hear that Kyrian. I hope your world rights itself sooner than you think. :)
I hope everything works out for you, Kyrian. Sad to see you go (we only just met!), but you take care of yourself.
I really don't have anything to add to what the others have said. I do hope things get better sooner than you think, and I hope you know that you always have a place you can come to if you need to talk.
Hope everything works out and God bless.
Well I suppose if I'm going to heal and move on, I may as well just let it out. My fiance who I've been with for 4 years left me last night, saying that she hasn't felt anything towards me for the last 3 years because of her depression. Despite how much I've fought next to her in order to help her through it, she told me that she couldn't stand going through the motions anymore. So yea... Like I said, my world has been destroyed.
I don't know what to say to that, and I understand the world-destroying. That's a hell of a thing. =(
I am so sorry to hear that, Kyrian.
I am not an expert, and this is not medical advice, but is your fiancee in treatment for her depression?
Depression cuts down the highs of life and deepens the valleys. It convinces you that you're toxic to your loved ones and don't deserve to have any. It makes you think you're worthless and a burden to those around you. It can make you think you have to push your loved ones away to save them from yourself.
Depression is a chronic illness that never really goes away, but can be effectively treated with counselling and medication.
She got SO much better when I finally convinced her to seek professional treatment. She still has dark days from time to time, but it's not nearly as bad as it was. He depressive episodes now only seem to happen a few times a year, and tend to only last a few days. Having a therapist really helps even those out.
Living with someone suffering from clinical depression is challenging to say the least. Speaking as a "can-do" kind of guy, it's very hard and very frustrating to sit back and watch someone you love suffer. But if you're not a trained therapist, it's best not to try to "fix" someone else's depression: it's a fool's errand and will only leave you feeling like you've been banging your own head against a wall.
If she's not in therapy or under the care of a physician for her depression, the best gift you could give her would be to convince her to seek professional help.
I wish you the best. This can be a long road.
Well, dang.
Haladir's hit it on the head. Seeking help from a therapist will help, and he's right about all the other things because I do suffer from moderate depression. I am making steps towards coping, but it's not an overnight thing.
Every situation's different, but if you can get her to seek help, it'll go a long way to helping her fight this. Shoot, even just letting her know that she's not alone and that there are others who have felt the same way will help. It has helped with me at least.
I've been trying since we met to help her. I've helped her look for help, we've gone to couples therapy, she's seen a few therapists... I've done nothing but try to help her, and she just refuses to fight now. Nothing I say or do makes no difference to her.