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In this case the math is more than stupid, it is just plain mean, lol. And you didn't enter it wrong.
I am concerned that since Torvald is still on the library side of the bridge on the map that he will just end up making it so they all need to cross the bridge again. They way the group is rolling, that is a bad idea.
guys don't forget to remind Torvald he has an "extra action" to spend before his turn comes up next. Perhaps you can discuss a plan of action on this side of the boards before letting the fight get further ..Craggark and AnaLia may not be enough to handle these two alone..Jawhar will be out of the fight until he heals both he and Jamir up (I'm thinking minimum 2 full rounds down in the pit before he can even think of climbing back up.
I think you need Torvald in this fight something bad! problem is he's so weighed down with all his equipment that he has a severe armor class penalty affecting his acrobatics roll (he is a walking thrift store of potions and equipment..and slow steady is great for movement but does nothing to negate the penalties imposed by a heavy load on the dex based skills) Torvald's acrobatic check stands at -4! perhaps if he spends an action dropping his pack he can get the penalty to like -2 but that hardly helps much...
Your best solution may be to pull back toward the pit and get in to Torvald's range.
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Ok, I think a "withdraw action" by Craggark will get him a double move away from the big bad on him right now without provoking. If he stays and that thing with multiple arms gets multiple attacks, along with his little buddy, there is not much chance for Craggark's survival.
Don't worry about Lia, as the big guy still has to move so he can only get one attack on her, though to be sure it could crit and kill her. At least it is a better chance than Craggark staying there. We do need to be in range of Torvald, and a channel if Jawhar does that later. I have a plan should I get to use it, but I hate meta-gaming and this is as far as I feel comfortable doing that heh.
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btw, it is hard to tell if a withdraw will even work, based off the half square placement the characters of Craggark and the big Gob are in. It may not be possible and it could just provoke. if that is the case then you might as well attack and then try and move. Let the GM let us know as your character would know for sure.
by using the route I outlined with the blue line Craggark can double move withdraw without incurring an AoO *edit* sorry looking at it again I guess there is no safe withdraw route for Craggark. sorry...hazards of going in to a room alone *gulp*!
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And here is the post where you dropped your pack. Analia, "finder of lost things", at your service!
link to the post
Shrugging his heavy backpack to the ground, Torvald unties the leather straps securing his crossbow and grabs the case of bolts. Shoving them into Craggark's hands he explains, "I'll wager you're a better shot than I am, think you can shoot 'im back? Maybe Jawhar could give you a blessing!"
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Ana I'll put Torvald's pack in the Library (thx for finding that post) but, that means all his extra vials of acid excreta are also in the other room. Fortunately he still has 5 bombs I believe and his crossbow. I'll put Torvald across the bridge.
the initiative order is(as of round 5):
1. Goblin archer (already went)
2. Craggark (already went)
3. Glorfan mutant (not gone yet I forgot it was his turn next)(already went)
4. Analia
5. Jawhar (still Unconsous and will delay and swap initiative places with Jamir)
6. Jamir (will use his already drawn salts to revive Jawhar)
7. Torvald (is already across the bridge)
Hope this clarifies things..
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I apologise for screwing up the brawler's best class feature and getting a semi-illegal trip in there. That's not good. Thanks for your graceful ruling, GM.
I also apologise for putting my Gameplay entry in the Discussion thread. Wow, Craggark is really stumbling to the finish line on this one. Or rather, his player is.
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Craggark, at your next available feat, you might consider Dirty Fighting, since you don't have 13 Int - it fulfills all the prerequisites for the improved combat maneuver feats (ignore if you already know about this, just suggesting it since not everyone gets the Player Companions).
remember 1 of u took a potion of cure mod off the druid..(you can't keep it on your character sheet at the end of the scenario so...)
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I am saying it now so I don't forget, but there is a spell called recharge innate magic that I didn't know existed when I put spells in Analia's spell book. I will be buying that spell after this adventure. It would be nice to have right about now, as her produce flame works well for her.
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You know, that is a really good idea. Well worth the cost when you need it.
I will make sure that's on my spell purchase list too, as it is a spell I can cast on others and even items(like a valuable at the bottom of a pit/well/long drop of any kind). Arcane bond lets me cast any spell in my book once per day, prepared or not, so that could be handy.
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Before I interpret it incorrectly, is the table in between me and the goblin something that provides a hard-corner? In other words, if I attack on the diagonal around the corner, does the goblin have cover? If so, I should be able to move the extra five feet around the table to get a clear attack without provoking an AoA.....what say you, GM?
it provides cover and yes the goblin gets no AoO around a hard corner.
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Hey y'all, currently at work so I don't have my references handy, what are the rules for making adjustments (i.e. archetypes) to Lvl 1 characters that weren't chosen at creation?
I made Torvald to familiarize myself with Alchemists, but I don't think the vanilla class is a good fit, he wouldn't be much of a poison user and he's already gone strong saves against it. Is it possible to get him modified into a Grenadier Alchemist, since it wouldn't involve actually changing any of his abilities? Archetype requires him to take Precise Bombs at 2nd level but I was going to do that anyway.
I believe in the Pathfinder guide to organized play most changes are "free" before 2nd level..it's a free download if you want to look it up..The way I read it.. it shouldn't be a problem to change to the Grenadier archetype I'll just note it on your chronicle sheet..If anyone else knows more about this please comment!
Cool, Torvald is officially a Grenadier Alchemist then. (Have the PFS rules downloaded on my personal laptop but its at home)
remember u can't do it mid scenario.. but you can do it after the adventure (b4 u level)
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+1 for grenadier alchemists. My 13yo son has a dwarf grenadier alchemist and played him in both GenCon specials at tier 3-4. He picked glaive-guisarme as his martial weapon proficiency and uses the imbue weapon feature frequently, as well as his bombchucker (from Monster Codex, under hobgoblins, I think) to extend the range of his bombs. He is very, very effective. (And a lot of fun).
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I was thinking I could pick up a shield and medium armor after my Vanguard Slayer dip to be much tankier, and use javelins if I ever need infusions, with a warhammer or something in case he needs to go front-line. Then I could reliably back up Craggark & Jamir *or* hang back and throw bombs. Versatile!
And I didn't mean to suggest it was your goof, Craggark, it was mine. The goop is my backpack and I totally forgot about it until after the fact.
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I've got it! Jawhar, if you took Create Water today, just keep casting it. At two gallons per round, a 30' deep, 10'x10' pit should be flooded to the top in ...
Let's see, converting to metric, 10'x10' = 300 cm x 300 cm
2 gallons = 7,570.8 cm3
To fill the pit with water 1 centimeter deep would be ... hmmm ... 12 rounds
12 x 900 = 10,800 rounds = 1,080 minutes = 18 hours of spamming Create Water! We could be out of this pit in no time!
Assuming no leakage.
And that we don't drown.
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@Luckless I was aware of the failure penalty. I specifically looked up the rules before making the post.
My thinking was that "fall from the height you have already attained" meant a fall from 0 feet (is that really falling?)
Thus the first attempt was going to be the only I attempted to do quickly.
I have no real issue with your ruling that I Fall prone. I was hoping it wouldn't come to that, but anticipated the possibility.
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I thought you had started last round (and my turn was after yours), so I thought there was room.
My mistake that you hadn't started. I specifically intended to go up second.
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