Othan |
So we aren't getting paid for recovering the astrolobe and I need to buy new clothes? With what money? Othan is a mercenary and this gig hasn't paid well so far which makes him angry, and people have seen what happens when othan gets angry. Typical entitled dragonmarked leadership, "thanks for getting that super valuable thing back for us, now run along my minions and be grateful I demean myself by meeting with you at all, basking in my presence is reward enough for your efforts and by the way, get some new clothes, people who work for me need to be fashion conscious."
Xov |
Yea, this whole expedition doesn't seem to have done much to endear Lyrander to the group. Xov already had a negative opinion of all the dragonmarked houses, and this distraction from mission has made things worse in his eyes.
Danir seems to be annoyed that this has essentially taken precedence over getting him back into his house (or that's what it seems like from his posts). I can't really make out what Absylon thinks.
Danir |
Nymm 23rd, 998yk. Sharn.
Having completed the first true trial of our group, I feel better now putting it down on the page. Ebran’s mission to recover a mystic Astrolabe of some value for House Lyrandar has been completed and there have been at least 3 positive outcomes of the mission. Firstly, as a group we have become more competent and cohesive as a unit in battle. Secondly, Ebran has acquired membership into his House (I had been unaware of his lack of recognition, as he has been somewhat evasive about his past, though I am not one to speak on such matters or cast stones). And thirdly, while I realize this is perhaps small-minded of me, we have been freed of the presence of Essar as he contracted lycanthropy during the mission and disappeared shortly thereafter. I think as a group we are stronger without him- his goals clashed with those of the group and while I may not be the most pious of Sovereign worshippers I do confess that the presence of a Blood Cultist would have made me worried anyways, that fact that he was also intolerable to deal with as well only heightened that worry.
I am glad that we have finished this mission for another, personal reason- now we shall be able to undertake my own House errand to recover the Schema that was lost from House Cannith and return it to them. At this time, the best information that I have available to me indicates that it was last seen on its way to Karrn. Although this does not insure its presence there, it does at least give us a place to start. After Ebran’s house acceptance party, I will request of the others that we head there in search of more clues. Although I was rather upset that we did not immediately move to my mission after our first foray after the Astrolabe led to a disastrous retreat at the hands of a Banshee that could have easily killed us all, I think it good now that we were able to extract the item once the Blood cultists that had it went to move it for its protection.
I think at the time that my displeasure about continuing after the Astrolabe may have come across poorly to the others, making it seem I placed my own search for House acceptance ahead of the mission- I wish I had handled the situation more diplomatically. I had simply thought we had hit a wall and should go back to the task when better prepared for such a confrontation. I had not realized that they would make the choice to move the item instead of keeping it where it was clearly safer (from our group at least) and wanted to move on to my task in the hopes that we could get it cleared up and then once the (apparently) easier task was completed, go back to seeking the Astrolabe. But I choose poorly how I conveyed these concerns. Ah well, we all have our moments I suppose in which our motives and actions do not come across well.
Oh, a PS to the Mission: Upon the departure of Essar, a new member joined our ranks- an apparent Citdel agent we know only as Absylon who has thus far revealed nothing of himself. Although he appears intelligent , I have yet to get any other real feel for this mysterious stranger. More later…
Absylon |
Absylon will use his ticket of credit to buy the following items
Hat of Disguise (1800 gp)
Cloak, Quick Change (1500 gp)
Sleeves of Many Garments (200 gp)
Wand of Cure Light Wounds (750 gp)
Wand of Burning Hands (750 gp)
Necklace of Fireballs type I (1650 gp)
Kit, Disguise (50 gp)
Now before I buy all of this a question gm, can I take twenty on a disguise check so long as it is not to impersonate someone else? I am looking to create a series of alternate disguises for Absylon. I also would find it rather funny to cause Xov to believe that I am a changeling or a doppelganger...
Also how much would it cost to forge documents for these new disguises, identification papers and so forth?
Danir |
A few questions before I select new gear:
If we are buying new armor or weapons, can we get any trade-in value on our current ones? Danir has been conscientious in maintaining his gear (and has +10 on Craft Armor/Craft Weapons skills)and Make Whole from his Dragonmark so his gear should be in pristine condition.
Can time spent on a lightning rail or other transport be used to craft magic items?
GM Elton |
A few questions before I select new gear:
If we are buying new armor or weapons, can we get any trade-in value on our current ones? Danir has been conscientious in maintaining his gear (and has +10 on Craft Armor/Craft Weapons skills)and Make Whole from his Dragonmark so his gear should be in pristine condition.
Can time spent on a lightning rail or other transport be used to craft magic items?
Value is based on a trade in-- Diplomacy or Bluff vs. Appraise.
Danir |
Since he'll be outfitting himself through House Cannith for the 75% discount on non-magical gear, Danir will be getting the following for sure:
Mithral Chainmail (+6 AC +4 Max Dex -1 Armor Check Penalty 30ft. Landspeed 20lbs. Weight) 4600/4= 1150 Galifars
Masterwork Morningstar (+1 strike 1d8 Dam 6lbs.) 308/4= 77 Galifars
Masterwork Light Crossbow (+1 Strike 1d8 Dam 8lbs.) 335/4= 83 Galifars 7 Sovereigns 5 Crowns
So, that's 1310 G 7 S 5 C so far.
GM Elton |
Absylon will use his ticket of credit to buy the following items
Hat of Disguise (1800 gp)
Cloak, Quick Change (1500 gp)
Sleeves of Many Garments (200 gp)
Wand of Cure Light Wounds (750 gp)
Wand of Burning Hands (750 gp)
Necklace of Fireballs type I (1650 gp)
Kit, Disguise (50 gp)Now before I buy all of this a question gm, can I take twenty on a disguise check so long as it is not to impersonate someone else? I am looking to create a series of alternate disguises for Absylon. I also would find it rather funny to cause Xov to believe that I am a changeling or a doppelganger...
Also how much would it cost to forge documents for these new disguises, identification papers and so forth?
Yes, but I think it should cost you about 150 gp.
Danir |
Danir wrote:A few questions before I select new gear:
If we are buying new armor or weapons, can we get any trade-in value on our current ones? Danir has been conscientious in maintaining his gear (and has +10 on Craft Armor/Craft Weapons skills)and Make Whole from his Dragonmark so his gear should be in pristine condition.
Can time spent on a lightning rail or other transport be used to craft magic items?
Value is based on a trade in-- Diplomacy or Bluff vs. Appraise.
Danir has neither, would he make an untrained skill check or can he rool his Appraise vs. merchant's Appraise for haggling?
GM Elton |
GM Elton wrote:Danir wrote:A few questions before I select new gear:
If we are buying new armor or weapons, can we get any trade-in value on our current ones? Danir has been conscientious in maintaining his gear (and has +10 on Craft Armor/Craft Weapons skills)and Make Whole from his Dragonmark so his gear should be in pristine condition.
Can time spent on a lightning rail or other transport be used to craft magic items?
Value is based on a trade in-- Diplomacy or Bluff vs. Appraise.
Danir has neither, would he make an untrained skill check or can he rool his Appraise vs. merchant's Appraise for haggling?
Yes. you can roll appraise vs. appraise for haggling.
Xov |
Xov will attempt to buy a Sleeves of Many Garments.
He will also request Danir to craft a Hat of Disguise (900 gp to craft) and a Headband of Alluring Charisma +4 (4000 gp to craft), and supply Danir with any necessary materials.
Danir |
Because he has the time before the party, Danir is going to make himself the perfect all-purpose outfit: a Shiftweave outfit.
CL:3 needed to make (He has CL 6 for purposes of making magic items) DC:13 (5+5 [emulate Alter Self]+3)
Cost: 300 Galifars normally but his 4th level Artificer Bonus Feat was Extraordinary Artisan so he pays 25% less in materials= 225 Galifars
Roll: Taking 10, Spellcraft +12= 22 vs. DC 13
Outfits built into Shiftweave:
1)Artisan's Outfit
2)Cold Weather Outfit
3)Courtier's Outfit
4)Explorer's Outfit
5)Darkweave Outfit
Gear Cost subtotal:1535 G 7 S 5 C so far
Ebran Asur |
oooh, let me get one of those as well, if you have the time (i have money and will pay you)
also, i'm wondering about options for a low-cost Glove of Storage. perhaps one using the psionic power Hidden Pocket, which is lower level. just need to find a psionic crafter.
GM, what sorts of resources would i have access to, aside from Danir, for weapon crafting?
I am planning to, if possible, buy a +1 chakram and have it enchanted with returning. it is rather expensive, so i might only be able to get the +1 part done.
Can Danir impart Returning as a weapon special ability temporarily? if so, i would be willing to chip in some money towards some scrolls or schema needed for such an endeavor.
Danir |
Danir doesn't get Craft Magic Weapons and Armor until level 5, sorry. He can add Returning or any other +1 feature to a weapon for 40 minutes but its a 2nd level infusion so he can only do it 3 times daily (and there are other Infusions at that level that are of more value to him).
Base price? Less than the standard store cost certainly, but Danir is a Cannith Artificer and his time and skills are valuable. Oh, and Craft Wand is level 7 as well so it will be a little while longer.
Danir |
Ebran- It would take Danir 6 hours of time and the same ingredient cost as above for the outfit, he would normally be willing to do so for 400 Galifars (still 33% savings!) but in honor of your achievement and since he would already be doing it for himself anyways, he will do it for you (this one time) for 250 Galifars.
Othan- Danir will be able to build that item by level 6 and price would vary by what level of boost you would like but yes- given time and resources Danir would likely do so for you.
Danir |
Because he has the time before the party, Danir is going to make himself the perfect all-purpose outfit: a Shiftweave outfit.
CL:3 needed to make (He has CL 6 for purposes of making magic items) DC:13 (5+5 [emulate Alter Self]+3)
Cost: 300 Galifars normally but his 4th level Artificer Bonus Feat was Extraordinary Artisan so he pays 25% less in materials= 225 GalifarsRoll: Taking 10, Spellcraft +12= 22 vs. DC 13
Outfits built into Shiftweave:
1)Artisan's Outfit
2)Cold Weather Outfit
3)Courtier's Outfit
4)Explorer's Outfit
5)Darkweave OutfitGear Cost subtotal:1535 G 7 S 5 C so far
Oops- Actual cost of Shiftweave is 500, not 600 Galifars, so would cost Danir 190 G in ingredients, with a gear subtotal of 1500 G 7 S 5 C.
Ebran- He will make you one for 225 Galifars as a celebratory gift to you.
PS: You would also need to pick five different outfits to be 'programmed' into the item.
Othan |
Ebran- It would take Danir 6 hours of time and the same ingredient cost as above for the outfit, he would normally be willing to do so for 400 Galifars (still 33% savings!) but in honor of your achievement and since he would already be doing it for himself anyways, he will do it for you (this one time) for 250 Galifars.
Othan- Danir will be able to build that item by level 6 and price would vary by what level of boost you would like but yes- given time and resources Danir would likely do so for you.
That should be workable. I eventually need to buff othan's strength but there is no immediate rush.
Ebran Asur |
Ok, Danir/GM question:
Psionic rules use the base crafting feats, not their own separate feats like in 3.5.
I'd like a glove of Hidden Pocket.
It is a lv1 power, needs a lv1 caster, and would be a continuous effect. Duration of the base spell being a factor is what makes the cost interesting. The power duration is 1hr/4 lvls, which isnt a listed factor under the rules. It falls between the 10min/lvl duration that would multiply cost by 1.5 and the 24hr duration that multiplies the cost by 1/2.
I figure that should leave the cost at x1 or x1.25 at worst, putting the cost of such an item at 2000gp market price.
If that is agreeable, I'd like to either buy such an item or have Danir craft it and pay him.
Danir |
I'd still guess that he couldn't do it as he would not be able to emulate Hidden Pocket for the item.
Xov's Request- Hat of Disguise would take 2 days and a DC 11 Spellcraft check plus it would cost Danir 675 Galifars for materials so I'd say about... 1,200 Galifars as opposed to 1,800 for off the shelf. I'm presuming that because the description says nothing on the matter that the effect lasts for an indefinite time period but if there is a limit to how long a single change may last, it would be 60 minutes as Danir's Caster Level is +2 when making Magic Items.
Headband- be a few more levels.
GM Elton |
Ok, Danir/GM question:
Psionic rules use the base crafting feats, not their own separate feats like in 3.5.
I'd like a glove of Hidden Pocket.
It is a lv1 power, needs a lv1 caster, and would be a continuous effect. Duration of the base spell being a factor is what makes the cost interesting. The power duration is 1hr/4 lvls, which isnt a listed factor under the rules. It falls between the 10min/lvl duration that would multiply cost by 1.5 and the 24hr duration that multiplies the cost by 1/2.
I figure that should leave the cost at x1 or x1.25 at worst, putting the cost of such an item at 2000gp market price.
If that is agreeable, I'd like to either buy such an item or have Danir craft it and pay him.
They use the basic crafting rules.
Yes, that's agreeable, you can craft it.