Divine Rise of the Runelords

Game Master nate lange

Well... I'm an idiot.

So, I put together a prestige class for Sal which I thought turned out pretty well and I was about to post it here for some feedback (see what Sal thought, see if anyone else could spot something that could be a problem in specific situations, or had a feeling something could be off power-level wise)... then I noticed that Sal's alignment doesn't quite match her god's. *cue sad trombone music*

Sal, how do you feel about changing alignments?

I guess I'm still open to feedback either way... maybe I'll use it for an NPC down the road or something. I didn't put the spell list together yet but it would be a handful of stuff from the paladin list and a handful from the ranger list (with maybe just a couple inquisitor spells sprinkled in).

Sal (assuming you don't want to change alignments), I'd especially like your feedback because it'll be helpful in starting over.

Hey, Sal can shift her alignment - in fact, this might be a good and appropriate time for it considering she's just gotten some of the affirmation she'd been looking for and, as a result, some drive to do better and prove worthy of the responsibility she's been given. Since it looks like Sal wouldn't be able to take it until 5th level at the earliest anyway (when she gains that +5 BAB and can take the Deific Obedience feat), I can start having her work her way to the shift during the downtime and the first part of Book 2.

At first glance, it looks really cool and very thematic! I like that there's some flexibility on the boons that you can select and that the granted abilities are largely self-buffs sans the radiating Magic Circle against Evil effect you can get later on. It seems like it boosts flexibility and survivability but isn't OP since they're all limited use per day and most of them also rely on having the mantle manifested to be able to use in the first place.

Speaking of the mantle, it's not stated in the document but I'm guessing it's 1/day when you first get it then and eventually increases to 3/day? Or is it a set 1/day?

Iirc, it says in the first line “at will”... the intention was that you could effectively have it on all the time if you wanted but there were options for shutting it off if/when you wanted to avoid attracting attention. That said, thinking about it right now I feel like maybe I should put in some kind of penalty/restriction if it does get dispelled or banished (like having to wait a certain number of rounds before you can manifest it again).

Iirc, it says in the first line “at will”

*rereads relevant section*

So it does! Reading comprehension fail on my part.

Huh, I'd *entirely* forgotten about that prestige class. I'll have to think on it. It's certainly quite supporty; I'm just worried about it being too niche.

Here, just having some trouble getting into Sal's headspace the past day or two. Hopefully I'll be able to get something written later tonight.

My current waking state can be best summed up as 'buhhhhhhh' so I'm going to get some sleep and catch up on Gameplay a bit later :)

No problem Sal, get some rest.

@Everyone- happy Easter/Resurrection day/Sunday! You’ve got about 14 hours left for the holiday post blessing...

Also- now that you’ve had baths and proper meals, and a real night’s rest, go ahead and level up to 4th! Remember that you gain: the second level domain spell from your birthmark domain as a 1/day SLA (in addition to the 1st level spell you already have), a hero point (up to a max of 3), and +1 to any one stat (as normal at 4th level).

Please make a post here with your changes (what new spells you learn, where your skill points go, increases to BAB/saves, etc) once you’re done.

@Tera (or anyone who wants to multiclass)- let me know if you want/need help with your fractional bonuses.

Re: Fractional Bonuses - Yes please! Honestly that was one of those things that I felt should have been in the game from the start.

Well, they’ve been in this game since the beginnning ;)

You’re going to arcanist 3/inquisitor 1, right?

I'm not sure. I was actually thinking Arcanist 2/Inquisitor 2

You’re welcome to do whatever you want, just remember that the SLAs from your mark count as divine casting (so you can qualify for mystic theurge as arcanist 4/inquisitor 1 if you want to get into it faster).

Marcus isn't the easiest build for me to understand, but I think he's leveled. let me know if something seems off.

@Marcus- if you could make a leveling post like one of the next couple here I’d be glad to double check it. And, I’d like everyone to make those posts anyways, please.

Okay....

HP +7
Dex +1
BAB, Fort, Will +1
+2 2nd lvl spell
+1 use of Blessing (5 uses)
+1 use of Fervor (5 uses)
gain Channel Energy (for 2 uses of Fervor, at 1d6)
gain Sacred Weapon (+1, for 4 rd/day, non-consecutive)

Skills +1 in Perform(dance), Perform(sing), Diplomancy, Sense Motive, Spellcraft, Survival

Divine Gift - Barkskin 1/day

FCB: 1/6 Bonus Combat Feat (up to 3 of 6)

.... I think that's everything for leveling.

EDIT: Header and page is updated.

Looks good, Kaede. Thanks!

@Tera- if you go a3/i1 you should be: BAB +2 (2.25), Fort +3 (1.5+2), Ref +1 (1.33), Will +4 (2+2). If you go a2/i2 you should be: BAB +2 (2.5), Fort +3 (1.67+2), Ref +1 (1.33), Will +4 (2+2). If you have any questions, or need help with anything else let me know.

bab+1
will save +1
+10 hit points (5+3con+1fcb+1toughness)
+1 first level spell (5 known, 7/day)
2nd level spells (3known, 4/day)
+1 cha
+1 hero point

+1 to the following skills
diplomacy
heal
kn. nature
perception
sense motive
spellcraft

background skills
kn. geo
profession fisherman

@Marcus- you’re spells known are only right if you’re counting the cure spells and mystery bonus spells (though they do look right assuming you are counting those). I don’t see your spell-like ability (from your mark) listed. And check your archetype... you get some extra bonus spells when you bond with a spirit.

Okay, in the effort of everyone's sanity, I went through the entire run of Thistletop and the Catacombs, removing potions that were used as I went. This following list is what we came back to Sandpoint with. Things that have names after them were claimed by those people enroute.

688 gp in assorted coins and gems

Jeweled Hairpin - 75gp
White silk robe -60gp (needs cleaning)
Jade Necklace - 60gp
Blue silk gown w/ silver trim - 150gp
Gold holy symbol of Sarenrae - 100gp - Kaelaah
a helmet ringed with a fairly crude golden-crown - 20gp?

Potions:
Lesser Restoration
Animal aspect -Sal
Monkey Fish
cure moderate wounds

Scrolls:- Tera
Comprehend languages
Flaming sphere
Minor image
See invisibility
Sleep
Whispering wind

Long white cape (cloak of resistance +1)

Wands:
Magic missile (CL 1, 16 charges).
Silent image (5 charges) -Tera
Shocking Grasp - Tera

Weapons:
+1 bastard sword
+1 shortsword
4 +1 elfbane arrows
Mwk Composite longbow (+4 STR)
Mwk Scimitar
Heavy Flail
Small Mwk longbow
Tiny +1 Returning dagger

Armor:
+1 agile breastplate -Kaede
Chain Shirt
Small Mwk breastplate

Miscellaneous
Seven-pointed star medallion(I don't know if we'll see this again, but in case.)
Everburning Torch
Tera's Pumpkin of Shenanigans(Pumpkin King's Crown)
pair of masterwork manacles

Lastly, Can we get more info on these items?
Lamatshu Gold unholy symbol
Lamatshu Silver unholy symbol w/ ruby eyes - Zache
Small enchanted Hide (From a Horse)

Question: did we ever decide anything about trapfinding and Disable Device? I ask because with Sal now able to select her first slayer talent she could pick up Trapfinding which gives her Disable Device as a class skill. I have absolutely no problem doing that (and will rearrange my skill points accordingly) but if someone else was planning to invest in trapfinding (or has already been doing so) then I'll pick a different talent :)

Also - thanks for going back through all that stuff, Kaede! Looks like I need to update my profile a little to account for that stuff.

Yes, thank you, Kaede, for compiling all that! I'm not entirely sure what additional information you're looking for, though? Are you asking if those things are magical, or for their gp value?

Also, another holiday means another blessing...

Unlike previous (and most likely future) blessings, I'm awarding this one retroactively (once for each Easter on which you've posted). So...

Marcus: 1 round (18)
Tera: 3 rounds (16, 17, 18)
Kaede: 2 rounds (16, 18)
Zache: 1 round (16)
Kaelaah: 1 round (16)
Salomae: 1 round (16)

Warning: Minor stream of consciousness writing ahead

Okay, this is in relation to Nate making a Prestige Class for Salomae. Every time I open this thread, the first post that I see is that post.
I was out walking and letting my mind wander, and it jumped to the need for a spell list for this class. I made a jump to how similar it was to paladins. You wanted a somewhat unique spell list for it, and I remember the oddest spell list I've seen, for the Silver Champion archetype for paladin. Instead of the normal spell list, they instead only cast the spells from Apsu's domains and subdomains. So, I wondered what the spell list would look like if that concept was applied to Erastil. This list, plus 4 spells that are Erastil-themed, was the result. I did lower the level of 1 spell(Hunter's Blessing), from 5th to 4th, so that it could be included.

Honestly, I have no issue if you dislike it. It was an interesting thought to me, so I worked it up as an idea to work with.

Okay, in the effort of everyone's sanity, I went through the entire run of Thistletop and the Catacombs, removing potions that were used as I went. This following list is what we came back to Sandpoint with. Things that have names after them were claimed by those people enroute.

688 gp in assorted coins and gems

Jeweled Hairpin - 75gp
White silk robe -60gp (needs cleaning)
Jade Necklace - 60gp
Blue silk gown w/ silver trim - 150gp
Gold holy symbol of Sarenrae - 100gp - Kaelaah
a helmet ringed with a fairly crude golden-crown - 20gp?

Potions:
Lesser Restoration
Animal aspect -Sal
Monkey Fish
cure moderate wounds

Scrolls:- Tera
Comprehend languages
Flaming sphere
Minor image
See invisibility
Sleep
Whispering wind

** spoiler omitted **

Long white cape (cloak of resistance +1)

Wands:
Magic missile (CL 1, 16 charges).
Silent image (5 charges) -Tera
Shocking Grasp - Tera

Weapons:
+1 bastard sword
+1 shortsword
4 +1 elfbane arrows
Mwk Composite longbow (+4 STR)
Mwk Scimitar
Heavy Flail
Small Mwk longbow
Tiny +1 Returning dagger

Armor:
+1 agile breastplate -Kaede
Chain Shirt
Small Mwk breastplate

Miscellaneous
Seven-pointed star medallion(I don't know if we'll see this again, but in case.)
Everburning Torch
Tera's Pumpkin of Shenanigans(Pumpkin King's Crown)
pair of masterwork manacles

Lastly, Can we get more info on these items?
Lamatshu Gold unholy symbol
Lamatshu Silver unholy symbol w/ ruby eyes - Zache
Small enchanted Hide (From a Horse)

Awesome job on the loot list, a CR10 Monster if I ever saw one!!!

Kaelaah doesn't really have any claim on any of the things other than the Sarenrite Holy Symbol... and, as to levelling, I'll get to that once I've caught up on Gameplay posts across my games - but Kaelaah will be just going up to Kineticist Level 4 :)

@Kaede- what a great thought! I may end up tweaking that list a little bit but, honestly, it looks pretty good already. Thank you.

Regarding the 3 items at the end of your list: the holy symbols don't have any magical properties (beyond any faint aura they might have just from being blessed... or cursed in this case?); they're worth about 100g each, unless you want to destroy them. The small enchanted hide is a suit of +1 hide armor sized for a goblin; its worth about 1,000g if you can find a halfling/gnome who doesn't mind wearing armor made from a horse (or about 500g if you can find a shopkeeper who will take it off your hands).

Adding another level of Arcanist.

+4 HP
+7 Skill points +2 background skills (I am serious considering taking Disable Device and asking Brother Faustwick if he has or knows where she can find the tools needed.)
+0.33 Fort
+0.33 Ref
+0.5 Will
+0.5 BAB
+1 Arcanist Exploit Shadow Veil
+2 Spells of level 1 or lower to Spellbook (No idea what I'm going to add at the moment.)
+1 1st level spell per day

Skills:
+2 ranks Acrobatics
+1 rank Stealth
+1 rank Perception
+3 ranks Disable Device
+1 rank Know(Geography)
+1 rank Sleight of Hand

Will have character sheet updated shortly.

EDIT: Decided on Protection from Evil and Disguise Self for Tera's new spells

I like it Kaede! Thanks for throwing that together :)

In other news, I had a bunch of work nonsense crop up that's kept me busy through the night; I'll try and get caught up sometime this morning after work if I can.

Hey folks, work stuff has kept me busy the last day or so and more looms on the horizon tonight (and I'm out of time for now, need to get some sleep). If it's quiet I'll hopefully be able to sneak in a post but otherwise I'll catch up tomorrow :)

Kaelaah levelled up to level 4 - fairly standard... and mainly about pushing Kaelaah's fire damage ever upwards (next Utility Talent at level 6 starts Kaelaah down a Flying Torch route... fun times!!!)

+9 HP (5 + 4 for CON)
+1 BAB
+1 Dex
+1 Hero Point
+5 Skill Points (Acrobatics, Diplomacy, Heal, Perception, Stealth)
+2 Background Skill Points (Knowledge - Religion, Perform - Act)

FCB: +1/6th Wild Talent Feat

Utility Wild Talent: Fire's Fury

Domain SLA (Good domain): Align Weapon

688 gp in assorted coins and gems

Jeweled Hairpin - 75gp If no one wants it, and nobody minds. Tera would like this.
White silk robe -60gp (needs cleaning) Tera will clean this for whoever wants it or to sell.
Jade Necklace - 60gp
Blue silk gown w/ silver trim - 150gp As much as Tera might want this, We should sell it if no one wants it.
Gold holy symbol of Sarenrae - 100gp - Kaelaah
a helmet ringed with a fairly crude golden-crown - 20gp? Tera Appraise (Take 20): 20 + 6 = 26 or Tera Appraise (Take 10): 10 + 6 = 16 or if taking 20 or taking 10 is not allowed Tera Appraise: 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (6) + 6 = 12

Potions: Tera can hang on to the unclaimed ones for the group.
Lesser Restoration
Animal aspect -Sal
Monkey Fish
cure moderate wounds

Scrolls:- Tera Will be adding these to her spellbook as time permits
Comprehend languages
Flaming sphere
Minor image
See invisibility
Sleep
Whispering wind

** Spellbook omitted ** Same here.

Long white cape (cloak of resistance +1) Recommend we sell this. Tera's domain gives her the same benefits and everyone else has one already.

Wands:
Magic missile (CL 1, 16 charges). Tera'll take this one too if no one else wants it.
Silent image (5 charges) -Tera
Shocking Grasp - Tera

Weapons: I imagine most of this is going to be sold.
+1 bastard sword
+1 shortsword
4 +1 elfbane arrows Might make sense to give these to Shalelu.
Mwk Composite longbow (+4 STR)
Mwk Scimitar
Heavy Flail
Small Mwk longbow
Tiny +1 Returning dagger

Armor:
+1 agile breastplate -Kaede
Chain Shirt Sell
Small Mwk breastplate Sell, unless we want to find a buyer ourselves.

Miscellaneous
Seven-pointed star medallion(I don't know if we'll see this again, but in case.) Not sure if we want to hold on to this or not.
Everburning Torch Keep for the group.
Tera's Pumpkin of Shenanigans(Pumpkin King's Crown) Tera's definitely hanging on to this!
pair of masterwork manacles Not sure if anyone wants these. Recommend selling

Lastly, Can we get more info on these items?
Lamatshu Gold unholy symbol
Lamatshu Silver unholy symbol w/ ruby eyes - Zache
Small enchanted Hide (From a Horse)

See if the Church has a bounty for the unholy symbols and look at finding a buyer for the armor.

I've made some notes on the list.

As for supplies,

- enough food and water for seven for four or five days. Five days should give us a little cushion. A day to get there. A day to explore, a day to consecrate the place, and a day to get back.
- two four-person tents
- Something to cook with?
- Firewood?
- A wand of CLW if we can get it.
- Healing Potions?

Can anyone think of anything else we might need?

***Off Camera Shopping***

After stopping at several fairly general merchants...

• Jeweled Hairpin - with Tera
  
• White silk robe - cleaned and sold
  
• Jade Necklace - sold
  
• Blue silk gown w/ silver trim - sold
  
• Gold holy symbol of Sarenrae - with Kaelaah
  
• a helmet ringed with a fairly crude golden-crown - sold
  
• masterwork manacles- sold
  total from miscellaneous- 300g

The potions, scrolls, and wands are all safely stowed for the party to use.

After taking every coin that Savah's Armory and the Red Dog Smithy can afford to part with...

• +1 bastard sword- unsold*
  
• +1 shortsword- sold
  
• 4 +1 elfbane arrows- unsold*
  
• Mwk Composite longbow (+4 STR)- sold
  
• Mwk Scimitar- sold
  
• Heavy Flail- sold
  
• Small Mwk longbow- sold
  
• Tiny +1 Returning dagger- unsold*
  
• +1 agile breastplate- Kaede
  
• Chain Shirt- sold
  
• Small Mwk breastplate- sold
  
• Small +1 Hide (from horse)- unsold*
  total from arms and armor- 2,100g

As for the other odds and ends...

• Seven-pointed star medallion- taken as evidence by Sheriff Hemlock
  
• Everburning Torch- group loot
  
• 'Helm of the Pumpkin King'- Tera
  
• Unholy Symbols- no buyers (or bounty), could be turned into Church leaders to destroy, or you could consecrate them yourselves and sell them to Kesk's Jewelry to melt down for materials (100g total for both)

When it comes to provisioning...

• The church is happy to provide you with enough dry rations and water to last 7 people for 3 days. If you want other/more food look up the cost and pay it (but consider how you'll transport and store it).
  
• The church will also provide a bedroll and blanket for anyone who has need. If you want the tents look up the cost and pay it (but consider how you'll transport them and what you'll do with them when not in use).
  
• Headmaster Gandethus does have a partially used CLW wand, but he's very hesitant to part with it because he uses it when any of the orphans in his care get hurt. If you think you need it more than the orphans, a DC 20 Diplomacy check will convince him.
  
• The church will supply you with 1 CMW potion, and 2 CLW potions (free). Between the Pillbug's Pantry, Bottled Solutions, and the Feathered Serpent you find 1 more CMW potion and 4 more CLW potions (all regular cost, if you want them).

EDIT: I omitted the cloak of resistance (white cape) from the list... Marcus actually doesn't have one yet (he wasn't in the party when you were all given your cloaks) so I thought I would see if you wanted to give it to him before selling it?

Marcus graciously accepts whatever he is offered, but still has no money.

Well, unless Tera has other plans once the selling is done, I believe you're about to get a couple hundred gold...

2,400g split six ways is 400g each (minus whatever gets spent on group stuff like cure potions)

Whoops! yeah, give the cloak to Marcus. I'm guessing Roakkad was laid to rest in his.

I think Tera's gonna be learning Rope Trick or some other spell that can give us some shelter as soon as she can.

Hey ho, working today so if there are any further developments I'll catch up on them later tonight; feel free to bot Sal if needed :)

Sorry for the delay on my responses... I've been swamped yesterday and this morning. Should have something up by tonight.

No worries!

Sorry for my absence. Work and my sister's birthday have eaten most of the past two days. This is the first chance I've had to post since Monday.

I’ve had a busy couple days too (and I was hoping for a little more activity before we head out). I’ll move us to the Northgate in probably 8-9 hours...

Sorry, it's been manic here as well - back to work after two weeks off - chaos ensues....

No worries Tera, sounds like a lot of us have been busy the last few days!

I feel like this is a good indication that if I met me, we wouldn't get along.....

I don't know, you and I are practically the same person and you like me just fine?

We are quite similar (except I cant grow a beard)

I admit that I was looking forward to seeing Joe RP with himself once Orin showed up and so far I'm not disappointed.

We are quite similar (except I cant grow a beard)

Well, if we’ve learned anything from Star Trek it’s that the bearded version is always the evil one...

Hey folks, just a reminder/note that I'll be heading out of town later today for a work training trip and won't be back until late on Friday the 20th. I'll have my laptop but the amount of free time I'll have to use it after today (Sunday) is uncertain so please go ahead and bot Sal as needed; if I have enough time to check in and post I will but otherwise I'll catch up when I get home.

Oh and if I do end up with some free time my first posting priority will be to my GMed games so if you see posts from GM Ladile elsewhere but none here that'll be why. Hopefully that'll avoid any 'I SEE U POSTIN' Y U NO POST FOR <X> GAME!?!?' confusion :P

As Sal pointed out, we do have a guest... one of my buddies recently moved and doesn't have a TT game in his new locale so he's going to sit in for this little excursion. I'll let him introduce himself here when he gets a chance. Oliver's still an NPC though- don't feel like you have to be nice to him just because someone else is controlling him ;)
edit: except Orin- Oliver technically outranks you, so you have to be nice to him (he's a scout and you're a patrolman so there's no direct chain of command)

Also- it's been a while since a couple of the players have posted... I'm going to hold off a little longer and moving on a) in case they have any last things to do before leaving town, and b) so as to avoid overwhelming with too much progress when they get back. Those of you who have been posting, feel free to keep RPing while you wait.

I'm cool with waiting a little longer; maybe things will pick back up starting tomorrow :)

"hey! I'm nice to everyone!"