Dark Ages Vampire - Bloodlines

Game Master Dennis Harry

Bloodlines is a continuation of the now defunct table top Dark Ages Vampire game wherein the PC's have created lineal descendants throughout the ages.

Attendees seeking a seat or have a seat in the Inner Circle:

Assamite - Lord Bajazet al Nasir.

Brujah – Lady Meridie de Chancie, Lord Criatas, “Dark”Selena, Robin Leeland.

Cappadocian – Lord Benne.

Gangrel – Milov Petrankov.

Lasombra - Prince Narses the Archbishop of Nod

Malkavian – Antione le Fanu, Lutz von Hohenzollern.

Nosferatu – Cristo Petradon, Simon.

Salubri – Brian Stack.

Setites – Sadir.

Toreador – Rafael de Corazon, Francois Villon, Helene la Jouste.

Tremere - Radek, Mistress Fanchon.

Tzimisce – Myca Vykos.

Ventrue – Alyssa Gilbert, Lady Jadviga Almanov, Lanzo von Saschen, Prince Alexander.

Remember - only those listed get votes. Of course influencing their Childer can go a long way to getting a vote.

Social Combat:

Let me first thank Sir Dunstan and his excellent Game of Thrones campaign as the inspiration for this rules tweak. A shout out to Vitaliano who also does an excellent job as a player in that campaign.

Game of Thrones has a Social Combat system that, while not translatable directly, I used as inspiration for this campaign.

This is a proposed rules set and I am more than happy to hear feedback from Players before I implement it in full.

Roleplaying is still required to get your point across. However, I think a mechanical system could be beneficial for this scenario, a scenario quite unlike anything I have ever done in a Vampire game before.

Making My Case

To convince a “voter” to side with your Sire, you may roll the following set of Attributes and Abilities:

1. Against someone who is clearly NOT in your favor --- Manipulation+Subterfuge+Politics
2. Against someone who is NEUTRAL – Charisma+Expression+Politics

The difficulty of all rolls is that Cainites Willpower. You will need to score as many successes as they have Willpower to win the contest. Once you engage the voter, you will only have three rounds to make your case and can only attempt do so one time per night.

If you have Presence – Awe or Enrancement, you may attempt to use these powers in conjunction with the above roll. Each success utilizing that Discipline gives you one more success on your total roll.

Beware, failing in using Presence in Elysium can lead to Sanctions by Thomas Brexiano.

Also beware, Cainites may try to turn this system around on you…

But What if Someone Else Tries This on a Voter I just Brought to my Side?

Amount of successes is a key factor here, you will want to score as many success as you can to ensure that a rival does not try to take that vote from you!

Certain NPC’s already believe that others are in their favor and would never change their votes. Those will be the toughest cookies to break.

Note this system cannot be used on:

Your In-Clan rivals, no amount of sweet talking or bribes will change their minds they all want this position badly.

Prince Narses, he simply will not entertain such discourse. Of course, this does not mean you cannot try to get into the ears of one of his Childer to have them speak with him…

Discerning My Quarry’s Intent

How can I tell if someone is for or against me despite what they are saying?

Make a Perception+Empathy+Politics roll.

The difficulty is 10, less that Cainites Humanity score. Those closer to the Beast are much harder to read. For every Century over 300 years that Cainite has lived, the DC will be increased by 1, topping out at 10, as these Cainites have well and truly mastered this game to have existed for so long in the first place.

Once you engage the voter, you will only have three rounds to ferret out their intent and can only attempt do so one time per night. You will need to score as many successes as they have Willpower to ascertain their intent.

If you have Auspex – Read the Soul or Invade the Mind, you may attempt to use these powers in conjunction with the above roll. Each success utilizing that Discipline gives you one more success on your total roll.

How else can I make my case?

The use of Presence, while frowned upon, is much less cause for censure than using Dominate. Dominate does not work on a Cainite whose blood is closer to Caine than your own. If you seek to use Dominate to convince a voter (or perhaps one of the Childer?) to vote for your Sire, it would be best used elsewhere in the city.

Boons – the boon system of quid pro quo can also be used to gain votes. You will need to offer something of course that that voter does not have or cannot get from another candidate.

Eliminate my rivals. This one is obvious though failure to do so without detection may subject YOU to the Final Death!


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Gangrel Blood Pool 13/10

Storyteller Shadow:

[b]"My loved ones...are there any rules in regards to them, will they be safe should I unintentionally offend, or must I keep this new life a secret from them?"

"And are there peculiarities to this existence I may not understand yet? The sun burns me and the smell of blood drives my urges to feed. What other surprises lie in wait?"

"If somone should slight me, am I allowed to retaliate? Both among the circle and mortal men."

"And thank you for your guidance. I have much to learn, and hopefully a long lifetime to learn it."


Female Vampire Tremere Courtesan

Storyteller Shadow:
"Wait...you mean both magic and vampires are REAL? Give me a second" she pauses for a second, "Okay...I am ready"


Shadow's Status

Sorry my day and night were all screwed up by work. I'll get to Veronica, Luca and the next night I/C tomorrow folks.


Shadow's Status

Luca:
The Gondola stops and Durga Syn gestures for you and Adria to step off of the boat, she hands the man some coin and whispers to him, he goes still for a minute as she leaps off of the boat and net to the two of you. A shocking move considering how old and brittle she appears to be. Once your group moves along he seems to snap out of his trance and waves to you all before heading out to seek another fare.

"Come, this is where I am staying". You stand before a modest home off of one of the smaller canals in the eastern section of the city. "The Prince provided me with a Haven but I like to have a variety, also I do not like anyone knowing where I am staying, a habit you can fully utilize with your Gangrel powers and I suggest you do so. Now to your questions:"

"My loved ones...are there any rules in regards to them, will they be safe should I unintentionally offend, or must I keep this new life a secret from them?"

"No no rules except for the Silence of Blood, unless you make them herd or retainer they should not know of your condition. If they do know you must hold them to absolute secrecy. Allowing yourself to be found out can lead to trouble from mortals who would hunt our kind. Rulers of our kind, Prince included know these dangers and will censure you or worse for not heeding this Law of the Night. Keep your distance from them unless you are full of belly, else you may lose control and do something you may regret..."

"And are there peculiarities to this existence I may not understand yet? The sun burns me and the smell of blood drives my urges to feed. What other surprises lie in wait?"

"We, all of us, have an aversion to fire. If you are not able to steel yourself in presence of a large open flame, you may lose control as does the most cowardly mortal in the throws of their worst fears. Wood through the heart will incapacitate us but not kill us. Suffering beheading will result in the Final Death, well for most of us anyway".

"If someone should slight me, am I allowed to retaliate? Both among the circle and mortal men."

"Someone will slight you, that is inevitable. In Court, words are your weapons but take care who you offend back the dead hold grudges for longer than would seem possible. Outside of Court, you may strike another but only the Prince may give sanction to slay another. With Mortals if they belong to one of our kind, take care in striking them other Mortals are fair game but if you are known the local law may track you as a criminal".

"And thank you for your guidance. I have much to learn, and hopefully a long lifetime to learn it."

Adria chimes in, "Yes, but why are you helping us?"

"I seek to assist the young that they may be more humane to Mortals and kinder and more compassionate to our own as well. So long as I am here I shall watch over you. Yenshun is well known to me, though I disagree with his approach to creating Childer he is a wise and honorable being. Come now, let us get rest for tomorrow we shall have to hunt outside of the city for your meals before we go to Court".


Shadow's Status

Veronica:
"Vampires is vulgar phrase, we refer to ourselves as Cainites as the old legend goes we are descendants of Cursed Caine form the Bible. Though I have my doubts as to that particular Legend, I find the word one that Mortals do not know and thus safe to use in shared company

Be not surprised then when you discover that Werewolves exist. Spirits of the restless dead stalk the shadows of this world, fey from another realm can present a challenge and of course human Mages can be deadly".

She proceeds to spend the next several hours PAST daybreak teaching you magic until the sun rises and forces you both to sleep in the dark room you both currently occupy. OK, new updates coming up! Let me know if you want to chat about choices next game so you can finalize your stats.


Shadow's Status

I am working on updates offline. I will release all 13 as well as my set up Post for the evening later tonight after my child is put to bed :-)


Shadow's Status

One Gameplay Thread. Thirteen Games all of which are now up and running once more, welcome to Thursday March 27, 1309.

FYI, the Pope ACTUALLY did Excommunicate Venice in that Year on approximately that date in real world History.


Male Italian (Toreador)

Those whacky mortals...
Just when you think the vampire side of things is going nuts, they've got to top you.


Clan Malkavian Blood Pool 19/30

Sigh...time for a culling of the herd.

Vitaliano only has enough give a damn for one crisis like situation at a time....he will make poor political mistakes possibly now >.<


Shadow's Status

Updates tomorrow.


Female Vampire Tremere Courtesan

I have been busy with stuff since Thursday...and this week looks just as busy. I will hopefully get to finishing the character in profile soon...and will try your keep up with the updates also...but I can not make any promises...


Shadow's Status
Veronica Acqua wrote:
I have been busy with stuff since Thursday...and this week looks just as busy. I will hopefully get to finishing the character in profile soon...and will try your keep up with the updates also...but I can not make any promises...

No worries we all get busy sometimes!

We can always discuss Discipline selections on Friday.


Shadow's Status

Passed out last night. Updates tonight even if I have to stay up late to do so.


Shadow's Status

So uh, how are you enjoying the scene so far Onfroi? :-)


Shadow's Status

Ranerius, I'll get your response post up tomorrow losing it here and I need to get to bed.


Male Italian (Toreador)
Storyteller Shadow wrote:
Ranerius, I'll get your response post up tomorrow losing it here and I need to get to bed.

No worries!! I was late getting my response in anyway, and I'd rather not have a sleep depped ST ;)


Clan Malkavian Blood Pool 19/30

I'm not likely to be able to post until Monday. I shall try to sneak in a post tomorrow night to catch me up a little with the others but I shall be away for a convention.


Male Nosferatu 6th Generation; BP 28/30, xp saved: 0, spent 155

Storyteller, it is exactly the type of rp I love doing. Defining my character inside and out within the world is why we come to this place. I have had to decide all sorts of things about Onfroi plunging the very depths of him and his motivations and use his nature and demeanor to guide me in this scene at every twist and turn. Sometimes when we act we find truths of the human condition and surprises about our own selves. What could be better then that for the actor?


Shadow's Status
Vitaliano da Riva wrote:
I'm not likely to be able to post until Monday. I shall try to sneak in a post tomorrow night to catch me up a little with the others but I shall be away for a convention.

No worries enjoy!


Male Italian (Toreador)

Good luck, Xing...*Munches popcorn*


5th Generation Cappadocian | Bloodpool: 26/40 | Willpower: 6/8
Xing Shi wrote:

Venice by Night – Thursday March 27, 1309

Xing’s Hovel Haven – Xing Shi

Xing growls more at herself for not knocking him out with one shot and attempts to block and strike back at him again!

[dice=dex+brawl]3d10 Block
[dice=dex+brawl]4d10 Attack
[dice=damage]3d10
Don't remember if I get to re-roll 10's or not with Dex 4 or if that's based on skills only.

Under V20 rules, 10's count as two successes each if you are making a roll in which your specialty would apply. In your roll above I would assume that you would have at least 4 (if not 5) successes on your block attempt. Likewise I would assume that you would have a single success on your attack roll, with the 1 taking away from 1 of the 2 successes granted by the 10 on that roll. Since the damage roll is strength based (I assume) and not dexterity based the 10 on that roll would be a single success (negated by the 1)


Shadow's Status

More updates tomorrow folks, hitting the wall here...


Male Italian (Toreador)

Whew. Thank you for not embarrassing my Toreador, dice


Male Nosferatu 6th Generation; BP 28/30, xp saved: 0, spent 155

Social ostercism is never nice... so awesome roll Ranerius I just love reading your story hopefully our stories hook up again soon.


Male Italian (Toreador)
Onfroi wrote:
Social ostercism is never nice... so awesome roll Ranerius I just love reading your story hopefully our stories hook up again soon.

Yay! I'm glad others are enjoying it. Ranerius and Onfroi might have some very different political and philosophical views, but Ranerius at least feels the Toreador owe Onfroi for his sacrifice and will try to be a friend.

Rare in the vampire world. :)

Should be entertaining no mater how things go.


Shadow's Status

I have a long day at work tomorrow, I'll update in the morning as I won;t have a chance tomorrow night, just getting too late to create effective posts now.


Shadow's Status

Wow that was a lot of 10's Onfroi...


Shadow's Status

More posts when I get home form work in an hour.


Clan Malkavian Blood Pool 19/30

You ever get mad and yell at the guy who can literally make you die in an instant...no, you know I do.


Shadow's Status
Vitaliano da Riva wrote:

You ever get mad and yell at the guy who can literally make you die in an instant...no, you know I do.

And that's part of why you're so G+$ d%&n good at playing a Malkavian...


Clan Malkavian Blood Pool 19/30

~blushes...sorta~ Aww..you make my cold body warm a little. If my heart could still flutter....oh heavens.


Male Italian (Toreador)

Whooops, Ranerius may have misunderstood . thought Vykos was meeting with a toreador :)

Apparently not :o

Ah well, he will try to be a good host.


Shadow's Status

The ST likes to bring PCs together, especially PCs that have had little to no interaction with one another.


Shadow's Status

BTW, what's really funny cause I happened to be looking at it today, this Game is nearly in the top 20 for posts among all PbPs on the entire site.

I think there are only 15 games that ever got to 10,000 plus posts. I figured there would have been more but the answer was no.


Male Italian (Toreador)

Whoot! :) Impressive number

As for the getting folks together, it depends if they send him away right away or not :)


Male Nosferatu 6th Generation; BP 28/30, xp saved: 0, spent 155

What is even more impressive is the early hour all these posts happened for central standard time lol


Shadow's Status
Onfroi wrote:
What is even more impressive is the early hour all these posts happened for central standard time lol

Yeah, I am f#~!ing hurting right now from sleep deprivation....


5th Generation Cappadocian | Bloodpool: 26/40 | Willpower: 6/8
Storyteller Shadow wrote:
Onfroi wrote:
What is even more impressive is the early hour all these posts happened for central standard time lol
Yeah, I am f@@~ing hurting right now from sleep deprivation....

I didn't know you were on central time. Where are you at? I'm in the St. Louis area.


Male Nosferatu 6th Generation; BP 28/30, xp saved: 0, spent 155

Minnesota


Clan Malkavian Blood Pool 19/30

Joplin myself, I'm actually going up to St Louis in like...a week to work Anime St Louis ^_^


5th Generation Cappadocian | Bloodpool: 26/40 | Willpower: 6/8
Vitaliano da Riva wrote:
Joplin myself, I'm actually going up to St Louis in like...a week to work Anime St Louis ^_^

Hopefully I-44 will be clear by then :)


Human

FWIW, Shadow, I appreciate the RP time I'm getting before the Embrace. It's helping me get a bead on Piero, and who he will become!


Shadow's Status
Piero de Luca wrote:
FWIW, Shadow, I appreciate the RP time I'm getting before the Embrace. It's helping me get a bead on Piero, and who he will become!

You'll ending up get substantially les than the well established PCs but that is just due to story circumstance. I prefer in a long campaign to do things that way. For shorter campaigns (1 to 3 years) starting as a Vampire I think is fine.


Shadow's Status

FYI to everyone, based on what has gone on before and what is yet to come I figure there is about another 3-5 years of real time RP with this set of characters. Thereafter, they will be "retired" and you will either:

1) Run their Childe OR
2) Have a chance to switch clans.

By way of example, Michele here on the boards once played his Grandsire Fatti/Fahdi (depending on how we spelt it at the time), and his current Sire Sadir, as a PC in table top. Assuming he stick with that same Bloodline, this will be the 4th member of that line that he will have roleplayed. So essentially he has been playing the same Bloodline since about 2006.

The next Chronicle will jump forward a century to the early 1400's. As I said. it'll be a few years but it was on my mind so I thought I'd share. ;-)


Human

Makes sense.


Male Nosferatu 6th Generation; BP 28/30, xp saved: 0, spent 155

I am torn to see someone else play my childe or me...


Clan Malkavian Blood Pool 19/30

Oh god, even I don't know if I wanna be my Childe....He's nuts and he hasn't even started getting deranged.

Now that stress has been added more....I think it's time for my first victim...but not sure if I should or not.


5th Generation Cappadocian | Bloodpool: 26/40 | Willpower: 6/8

Tough choice. That being said, I haven't given much thought as of yet. Lorenzo still has so much to learn and do yet.

At this point I don't even think he would embrace a childe. Fortunately there's a lot of game before that's even an issue.


Male Italian (Toreador)

I'm torn as well. I know that when he gets permission, unless something happens to prevent it, Ranerius is very likely to embrace his wife. Now, if I recall, this breaks the blood bond so the marriage might not be so happy after all. Who knows? :)

A lot depends on how much humanity he loses before he can embrace her. I imagine he would use her more ruthlessly at Humanity five than he would at 7 for example.

Then again, so much can happen to ruin that plan.

And if anyone WANTS to play a Toreador, let me know. I will consider a clan swap, though I admit Ranerius has been more fun than I thought he would. I think as an elder in the future he might become the reluctant force, always complaining about how he just wants his place and his music....
and then suggesting ideas on what the Camarilla should do next :)


Clan Malkavian Blood Pool 19/30

I honestly would not be surprised if he gets put in his place. But given how they responded the first time, he certainly would yell a second time. He's almost livid enough to brandish his scalpel he's got up his sleeve for if drunks get hands with him or someone won't pay.

I can't find what the instruments were made of back in the day...but given his occult knowledge would it be safe enough to say silver?

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