DM Sothal's Kingmaker PBP

Game Master Franz Lunzer


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male Human 8th level seeker/6th level gamer /4th level bad speller

he'll see about getting a pony at some point as the horse is a bit tall


Gamemaster

bandit loot:
-5 pcs. of leather armor, (sold = 25gp)
-4 longbows, (2 taken, ?, ?) (2 sold = 75gp)
-1 composite longbow from the bandit leader, (Queslin)
-a total of 100 arrows, (40 taken, ?) (60 sold = 3gp)
-4 short swords (4 sold = 20gp)
-1 dagger, (1 sold = 1gp)
-10 days of trail rations, (10 sold = 2,5gp)
-coins worth 57gp in total, (divided)
-7 horses (3 taken, Branomonrik, ?, ?) (4 sold = 170gp)

additional reward from Oleg and Svetlana:
-1 potion of cure light wounds
-1 potion of shield of faith +2
-1 vial of antitoxin
-coins worth 10pp in total

Items sold give a total of: 25+75+3+20+1+2,5+170=296,5gp
found and gotten coins diveded to 8 PC's: 19gp, 6sp, 2cp, with 4cp spare

So, how much of the store credit do you cash in?
How much will be left in credit?

Grand Lodge

add:
- one more longbow. I put my original in when I took the one out. +35.5GP

subtract:
- arrows, we're keeping them as party treasure (or I will buy them)-3GP
- trail rations, party treasure -2.5GP

cash out:
- the other 7 party members get 10 GP each out of items sold and cash on hand. Queslin did not take the cash out. We should have 100GP (10PP) in cash and the rest in credit.

Sorry for the confusion.


Gamemaster

No problem. Just wanted to be on the same outcome.

But I think there's still a misscommunication about cash:
The bandits had 57gp on them, (which got divided on all of you, I think).
The 10PP from Oleg are carried (by Queslin?) as party treasure, undivided?
Out of the 326,5gp in sales (above mentioned 296,5+35,5-3-2,5), 70 have been paid to 7 party members, leaving 256,5gp in credit, right?


Gamemaster
Queslin wrote:

There's a few more items I could use, let me know if Oleg has them.

- small tent
- crowbar
- waterskin x2
- bedroll
- shovel

Tent: small as in size category? or normal, one-man tent? The later is in shop (2pcs.), the former isn't.

Waterskins (5), bedrolls (3) and shovels (2) are in shop, crowbar isn't.

Grand Lodge

The 57GP was part of the party cash out. Taking the remainder, 13GP from the credit for selling the loot. My math was off a bit there due to thinking we were only 6 rather than 8. Then we sold only 2 horses, Ern, Michael, and Bran each got one and we kept two for pack animals.

Queslin does not need to carry the 'party funds'. Does someone else want to? Or we could invest in a strong box and keep it at Oleg's until a better solution presents itself.


Gamemaster

Ah, see I didn't get that.

bandit loot:
-5 pcs. of leather armor, (sold = 25gp)
-4 longbows, (2 taken, ?, ?) +1 Queslin (3 sold = 112,5gp)
-1 composite longbow from the bandit leader, (Queslin)
-a total of 100 arrows, (divided)
-4 short swords (4 sold = 20gp)
-1 dagger, (1 sold = 1gp)
-10 days of trail rations, (party, cart?)
-coins worth 57gp in total, (divided)
-7 horses (5 taken, Branomonrik, Big Ern, Michael, 2 pack) (2 sold = 85gp)

additional reward from Oleg and Svetlana:
-1 potion of cure light wounds
-1 potion of shield of faith +2
-1 vial of antitoxin
-coins worth 10pp in total

Items sold give a total of: 25+112,5+20+1+85=243,5gp
The coins from Oleg are party treasure, the 57gp from the bandits, along with 13gp from items sold have been payed out to the party, leaving 230,5gp in store credit.

Got it now, thanks.

Grand Lodge

Sorry to give this information to you piecemeal. I erased it after figuring out the credit and I'm trying to do this from memory. There's one final consideration for store credit. I used some of it to buy feed for the horses and bulk food for the 8 of us. I don't recall exactly how much, so let's figure 10.5Gp.


Gamemaster
Dax Thura wrote:
Sorry to give this information to you piecemeal. I erased it after figuring out the credit and I'm trying to do this from memory. There's one final consideration for store credit. I used some of it to buy feed for the horses and bulk food for the 8 of us. I don't recall exactly how much, so let's figure 10.5Gp.

Well, you claimed ten days worth of rations from the bandits, so about one day for all of you.

Two additional days for 8 PC's comes to 8gp, so that 10,5gp would also get you 50 dayfeeds for the horses.

hogarth: I can see Big Ern not caring that he drags the rest of the groups speed down, but for sake of the game, he's going to ride.

Bryan: No worries. That can be retconned, so either only one horse got sold, or you (as a group) have only one pack horse. Easy fix.

Justin: Understood. And you are probably right.

Okay, so it looks like only Queslin is up front scouting.
Next is Delfey, then Devlin, Michael, Majet, Matius and Big Ern, with Agerron and Branomonrik making up the rear.

I'll post a map when it's done.

Grand Lodge

For food for us I was thinking more along the lines of the 'common meal' (3SP each) from the food, drink, and lodging portion of the equipment section of the SRD. This was to represent our food while at the tradepost. I figured rations to be paid for individually, though I can work that out if the group wants me to, but the members of the group must speak up if that's the way they want to work it. Of course, don't forget the feed as well. The meals for the 8 of us plus the feed for 7 horses comes up to about 2.5GP per day. My math was off before. So I'll add enough gold from my money to provide us with 10 days worth of food and feed and from now on I'll take out a portion of group funds to cover at least 10 days at a time.

Bryan, not to be a jerk, but we retconned some stuff just recently and it became rather confusing for me and DmSothal. However, as DmSothal suggested, you can use one of the spare horses and we have only one pack horse for the group.


Gamemaster

Ah, meals at the trading post have been supplied by Svetlana for the first day.
Also: For staying at the Post, meals are the right thing. For exploring, not.

So food for 8PC's (trail rations) and 8 horses (7riding, 1 pack) plus one riding dog comes up to 4.43gp per day out in the wilds.
1 day worth of food for PC's and horses would amount to a load of 87.75lbs.
A horse has a carrying capacity of 230lbs/460lbs/690lbs (light/medium/heavy).


male Human 8th level seeker/6th level gamer /4th level bad speller

I did say we should keep the extras pack horses but was over ruled. We could brake it up and distribute it among the mounts we have however and do the best we can.

Dark Archive

Regarding food in the wild, why not move at half overland speed an all of us take 10 on Survival checks to find our own food? Also, isn't there plenty for the horses to eat just growing all around us?

It's an idea that could save us some coin.

Grand Lodge

First, Seeker, you were right, but I was being obstinate because only a few of players responded to my message about letting me know what they wanted to do. Also I was trying, and failed, to keep my math straight. In the future, I will try to remember that I am but the recorder of this information and not the final word on group decisions. If any member of our group disagrees with my choices, I am open to hear you out and make any necessary changes. I must ask, however, that group members respond within a reasonable amount of time to reduce any confusion for me and DM Sothal.

Let's keep the 10 days of meals (meals = Trading Post) and feed at the trading post because eventually, it will become rather burdensome on our hosts to feed our entire group of 8 people, 8 horses, and a riding dog. How about we cost that at an even 3GP/day because I believe in simplifying my math. I will still pay the difference out of my personal money this time.

Again for ease of the math, I'm going to round the cost to eat in the wilds to 4.5GP/day for the group, which I will deduct from our credit. So 5 days rations (rations = wilds) and feed will cost 22.5GP That's just under 444 lbs. Each horse and rider combination will be distributed 5 days rations and 2 days feed, 25 lbs each (21.25 for the riding dog) or a total of 197 lbs, with the remainder of 247 lbs of the feed going to the pack horse.

Grand Lodge

Justin Sluder wrote:

Regarding food in the wild, why not move at half overland speed an all of us take 10 on Survival checks to find our own food? Also, isn't there plenty for the horses to eat just growing all around us?

It's an idea that could save us some coin.

A good suggestion, but I don't think it's a good idea at this time because I have a feeling that time is rather important. Those bandits will be expected back at their camp eventually, and I would hate it if taking the time to graze was the difference in a lax camp verses an alert camp. Eventually, we'll need to do some exploring and that would work very well.


Gamemaster

Depends on wether you like to do that or not. It really cuts down your speed though.

About foraging: It's the end of winter. I'm inclined to impose a -2 penalty here, so taking 10 won't do.
The ground is mostly covered in snow, as I pointed out in the game some times now. Not so good for the horses as well.

Dark Archive

male human
Dax Thura wrote:

For food for us I was thinking more along the lines of the 'common meal' (3SP each) from the food, drink, and lodging portion of the equipment section of the SRD. This was to represent our food while at the tradepost. I figured rations to be paid for individually, though I can work that out if the group wants me to, but the members of the group must speak up if that's the way they want to work it. Of course, don't forget the feed as well. The meals for the 8 of us plus the feed for 7 horses comes up to about 2.5GP per day. My math was off before. So I'll add enough gold from my money to provide us with 10 days worth of food and feed and from now on I'll take out a portion of group funds to cover at least 10 days at a time.

Bryan, not to be a jerk, but we retconned some stuff just recently and it became rather confusing for me and DmSothal. However, as DmSothal suggested, you can use one of the spare horses and we have only one pack horse for the group.

I wasn't complaining. As I mentioned, I didn't respond in time to get a horse, so I am prepared to deal without one.

I guess part of me was assuming we would keep a horse for each party member just as a matter of course; doesn't really make sense for one party member to walk and everyone else be mounted. Especially when one of our goals is to explore. And admittedly, with my limited on-line time, I wasn't reading every post about goods distribution closely. So mea culpa; you know what they say about assuming! :-)

So, no need to retcon anything. We can always say Agerron stayed behind to 'guard the fort' if it makes him too slow.


Gamemaster

Bryan, I have to ask, due to that last sentence of yours:
Do you want to play?

It's pretty easy to retcon the selling of the horses.

Dark Archive

male human
DM Sothal wrote:

Bryan, I have to ask, due to that last sentence of yours:

Do you want to play?

It's pretty easy to retcon the selling of the horses.

Absolutely; I've enjoyed it quite a bit so far. I didn't mean to imply that I wasn't reading the game thread; I was just skimming over the OOC thread if I saw it was about the division of loot. RL has been hectic lately (work kicking my butt, coaching my daughter's t-ball team, trying to get my garden in, etc, etc.), but should be back to normal soon.

My bit about Agerron staying at the fort was a logical thing, not a snarky one. I try not to let in-game stuff get to me, so if I make a mistake (i.e. not noticing a comment about the prisoner still digging, not speaking up in a decent amount of time for a horse, etc.), I'm prepared to live with the consequences. Heck, that's what happens in RL when you don't pay attention, so why shouldn't it be the same in a RPG? :-) It would logically make no sense for one person moving at 20' to hold up a party of 7 on horseback. If no one has a problem retconning the horses, then heck yeah, I'll take one, and I promise to pay more attention to the loot division in the future. It seemed like Dax might have an issue, though (and I'm not blaming him), so I left the option open not to retcon if that's what the group preferred.

So, yes, I want to play, and I'm sorry if I annoyed anyone! :-)

Grand Lodge

No need to retcon. We have a horse for you. I figure we'll get more horses soon from the bandit camp as well. So I suspect this will become a moot point in a short time.


Queslin, don't forget the +1 attack bonus for having a masterwork composite longbow.

Grand Lodge

Thanks for the reminder. I'll add it into my stats so I won't forget again.


Gamemaster

Well... I was unable to get online yesterday for most of the day.

Let's see if the boars still live...

As for the horses: As the money's in store credit now anyway, I'm going to assume you didn't sell any of them, to have a horse for everyone plus two pack horses.


Gamemaster

Queslin: Boars have ferocity.


male High Elf Ranger 1 | AC: 16 T:13 F:13| HP: 12/12| Fort: +3 Ref: +6 Will -1 | Perc: +6 | Init: +4

I knew they were tough. I just didn't realize that they had Ferocity though. I was figuring more like Rage. Even so, I'm about to get gored out of my gourd.


You can always try Wild Empathy on them.

"Hey guys. Sorry about that arrow. I was just kidding around. Guys? Guys....?"

"SQUEEEEEEEE!!!!"


Gamemaster

Hello again. I wasn't online during the weekend, due to building works at home.

Will sum up the actions of the boars in a minute.

Grand Lodge

Queslin wrote:

There's a few more items I could use, let me know if Oleg has them.

- small tent
- crowbar
- waterskin x2
- bedroll
- shovel

You didn't answer this question. That little issue with the boars came up and I figure it slipped your mind.


Gamemaster
DM Sothal wrote:
Queslin wrote:

There's a few more items I could use, let me know if Oleg has them.

- small tent
- crowbar
- waterskin x2
- bedroll
- shovel

Tent: small as in size category? or normal, one-man tent? The later is in shop (2pcs.), the former isn't.

Waterskins (5), bedrolls (3) and shovels (2) are in shop, crowbar isn't.

Seems like I did answer it, but you didn't see it upthreat.

Grand Lodge

Sorry, thanks. And yes, I meant a normal sized, one man tent.


Gamemaster

I'm going to let you talk for a bit, if you like.

Let me know when you are ready to go on further.

Grand Lodge

Who knew that rain could be used as a team building exercise?

Dark Archive

Dax Thura wrote:
Who knew that rain could be used as a team building exercise?

The trees. They plots against us they does.... :paranoid:


I am struggling to get on the PC to update at the moment, might be best to write Michael out of this bit, have him head back to the fort maybe?

Not sure when I will get chance to post regularly again on more than 2 PBP.

Sorry about that.


Gamemaster

Family goes first!

Don't worry about it. I'll have Michael ride back in the morning, you come back when you sorted things out.

And may your wife get better soon.


male Human 8th level seeker/6th level gamer /4th level bad speller

Hey guys, just when I was back up to speed{or almost} I had a family emergency and have been away and not been online. My grandmother had some issues and had to be taken to another hospital a hundred or so miles from the house so things were hectic and I just did not get online. Everything is ok now and I should be back online in the morning or at lest the evening and get back up to speed and moving again.

Grand Lodge

I hope things quickly get better All DMs. Best wishes to you.

Grand Lodge

Ahem. anyone heard from our DM?


Franz, I hope you're still O.K., buddy!


male Human 8th level seeker/6th level gamer /4th level bad speller

I'll shoot him an email as he never goes this long without word.


male Human 8th level seeker/6th level gamer /4th level bad speller

Hey guys I sent Franz an email. Just letting you guys know

Dark Archive

male human
seekerofshadowlight wrote:
Hey guys I sent Franz an email. Just letting you guys know

We haven't heard from Guard for a while in the Savage Tide game, either. Hope everything's OK with him.

Grand Lodge

Any word from our DM?


male Human 8th level seeker/6th level gamer /4th level bad speller

Ok guys until we hear from franz this one is dead. I sent him a mail if anyone knows any other way to reach him ya might wanna try as it is unlike him just to vanish


male Human 8th level seeker/6th level gamer /4th level bad speller

Ok guys I have heard back from Franz. His laptop is dead and he no longer has internet accuses. He says he is sorry but is unsure when he'll be back online regularly again.


Although I'm sad that this game died, it's good to hear that Franz is just suffering from temporary technical problems and hasn't just given up on RPGs altogether!


male Human 8th level seeker/6th level gamer /4th level bad speller

yeah I was a bit worried it might be something wrong or something,was glad to hear it's just a dead pc.

Grand Lodge

Died? Hopefully, he'll pick it back up when he gets regular access again.


Dax Thura wrote:
Died? Hopefully, he'll pick it back up when he gets regular access again.

That would be great, but I'm not holding my breath.


male Human 8th level seeker/6th level gamer /4th level bad speller

He seems unsure when he will have net access on a normal base again, so yeah until then the game is indeed dead. It sucks but can't be helped.

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