Seems good.
Where are you going diving at? The New Mire is basically just a marsh and the creek is not all that deep.
Trying to get a grip on what you are investigating by diving and where.
I was thinking that we could find a dark hole, and pretty much just jump in those and go down until we can find something. I'm at a bit of a loss otherwise.
Goblin DC 14 will save against Jelly's command.
Goblin intimidate on all that speak goblin.
Just wanted to let everyone one know that I will be gone from the 17th to the 24th of next month, so I will not be able to post for about 10 days.
Gonna put the discussion here.
Rules on Tool use
You have to be proficient in the tools to do what that tools allow. It is much more than a proficiency bonus addition. Otherwise everyone could use Thieves Tools to pick locks, etc. You can not use the tool set at all if you are not proficient.
Difference between blacksmithing and jewelers tools
Blacksmithing allows you to work with metals, to forge things. You can make most things from steel and common workable metals that require heat and a hammer and tempering them. While the blacksmith is no weapon or armor smith, he can get by with making them.
A ring however is made from soft metal (gold) sometimes silver and platinum are used. However they are not forged with hammer and anvil. Usually a jewelry crafter would first make the mold for the item with all the little intricacies of the item such as the setting prongs if it held a gem, the engraving, the shape etc. Then the melted metal would be poured into that mold to set and then once cooled and out the item would be polished etc. It is a much finer detail of a work than raw blacksmithing. Thus requiring fine tools.
Magical Rings
Most rings that are enchanted always first start with the finest quality ring that can be found. In older editions these would be considered masterwork quality and adds considerably to the price for the type of craftsmanship required.
With that being said
If you have access to a forge or work space (probably in Milborn) and had access to both a set of blacksmith tools and jewelers tools, not just the proficiency. Then I would say you could do the following:
Make a simple signet ring in a days time, this would be a very low quality and simple gold band with the emblem on the front. Would not be as near as detailed as the original but could be mistaken for it at a distance. The item would only cost 5 gold other than the cost of the tools needed.
If you want an exact duplicate that is a near perfect match then you would need to pay the 100 gold and await for it to arrive from Waterdeep.
Choice is up to you guys, we will roll with whichever way you want to go.
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That's fine, but it's already been ruled that you don't need proficiency in Thieves Tools to pick a lock:
"You do need Thieves' Tools to pick a lock but you don't need to be proficient with them."
Mind you, the Waterdeep option seems closed to us, since we only have one or two day's left on the two-week timeline, and it will take 10-20 days for the thing to arrive.
With that said, it seems the Milborn option is the best...and only...option available to us.
Unless we wanted to go down the uncertain and no doubt long-winding road of ejecting a water elemental. And I don't even know how that would work.
On the not needing to be proficient in Thieves' Tools to pick a lock.
As a general rule it was ruled that you could attempt to use Thieves' Tools without proficiency yes. To try and disarm a trap etc. It was also said that this would be at disadvantage.
However as far as picking a lock goes, under the 'Lock' entry in the PHB it is specific:
Lock. A key is provided with the lock. Without the key, a creature proficient with thieves’ tools can pick this lock with a successful DC 15 Dexterity check. Your DM may decide that better locks are available for higher prices.
Therefore it was said that you could not pick a lock without proficiency unless it was a special circumstance or really cheap lock.
So it is a case of a specific rule overruling a general one.
On other tools
You can use any tool, regardless of proficiency, you don't get the proficiency bonus added to the roll. What you can and can not do and the DC is situational as set by the DM. (i.e. You can play an instrument without proficiency but it is up to the DM to determine if the music is pleasing.)
Final ruling
I am allowing use of the jewelers tools without proficiency to engrave a simple signet ring. A masterwork quality ring such as the goblin shaman has is out of the question without intimate knowledge of those tools.
Even if I did allow it. It takes a day of crafting for every 5 gp value (under downtime crafting rules) of the ring being crafted, the ring is worth 100gp. So it would take 20 days to make and cost 50gp.
Not trying to be difficult or hard on you (the players) it just isn't feasible either time wise, to craft that quality of ring when you are not proficient in jewelry making.
The signet ring is a quick fix, which seems like what you are after seeing you want to wrap it up in a day or two.
Well, no crafting for us.
DM, I just noticed, for the crossbow expert feat section with hand crossbows, it says nowhere that you have to be using 2 of them. It just says: When you attack with a one handed weapon, you may attack with a loaded hand crossbow you are using as a bonus action, which means using one hand crossbow with the feat gives you 2 attacks, correct?
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Sorry for the lack of posting! I've been caught with my two final exams and couldn't even warn you -because I ran out of available data on my phone too... yay for me!-
I will try to post tonight, but if I'm unable please just bot Alex as helping to the best of his abilities on the forging.
By the way, could we forge a ring even if a crude one... and simply use illusion magic to mask it?
Forging a signet ring and then masking it with illusion might just work. At least long enough to get out of the goblin cave.
How to you guys want to proceed?
Forge the signet ring and return to the goblins or have Garyld arrange a meeting with Shiraz to discuss relocation of the goblins?
DM, I just noticed, for the crossbow expert feat section with hand crossbows, it says nowhere that you have to be using 2 of them. It just says: When you attack with a one handed weapon, you may attack with a loaded hand crossbow you are using as a bonus action, which means using one hand crossbow with the feat gives you 2 attacks, correct?
It was ruled by Jeremy Crawford on Sage Advice that you could:
"Crossbow Expert does allow a character to shoot a hand crossbow as an action and again as a bonus action."
Think that's all I want to do.
Leveled up:
+9 hit points, leveled as eldritch knight, bonded with rapier and light crossbow, got the burning hands, shield, and Tasha's hideous laughter spells. Took the booming blade and chill touch cantrips.
I say whoever has the lowest attack bonus should get it. Not me, I have something like +8, so I'm in little trouble of missing.
What about Erdann? Would give him a good source of damage, makes sense because he is a wizard, and he can cast his other spells through it as well.
Also, it doesn't require an attack roll, so sunlight sensitivity isn't a problem.
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I'm fully on board with Erdann taking the wand.
Also, wrt dicing for items, please see number 58: Dicing for mutually desired items leads to semi-content parties with less than optimal power. Voting to place the items leads to optimally powered, temporarily less than happy members (minus one). Pick one.
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Also, leveled up. +7 hp. All spells (both of 'em! So buckle up Buttercup!) are now second level. Learned Crown of Madness. Retrained Armor of Agorthophobia to Ray of Enfeeblement.
Also, I pondered this long and hard because, IMHO, all the 3rd level Pacts suck.
But I took Pact of the Chain and got a familiar. A quasit. Because only a creature that relished pure chaos would be batshit crazy enough to tie their horse to this nightmare circus of bananas and monkeys. =)
So we are just waiting on Erdann and The Slice to level.
i will be able to level this weekend.
as for the wand, I will take it if no one else wants it. I am unfamiliar with magic missile in this edition but i do have my ray of frost as a primary offense. i wouldn't have pursued the wand myself because the drawback is pretty extreme (as i picture myself rolling a 1 the first time i use it).
i will be able to level this weekend.
as for the wand, I will take it if no one else wants it. I am unfamiliar with magic missile in this edition but i do have my ray of frost as a primary offense. i wouldn't have pursued the wand myself because the drawback is pretty extreme (as i picture myself rolling a 1 the first time i use it).
It is 3 darts, they all automatically hit and deal 1d4+1 force damage each. Pretty good, if you focus fire it's 3d4+3 damage.
And we'll roll a 1 eventually, may as well keep it until some sort of boss.
Good idea. Best not to go throwing it around willy-nilly.
Got caught up in a 3-hour traffic delay tonight. I'll post up The Slices updates tomorrow.
Pending GM Approval, I believe The Slice is ready to rumble.
HP +7
Archetype: Swashbuckler (Sword Coast Adventurers Guide)
Fancy Footwork: Characters that I'm in melee with can't take attacks against me until the end of my turn.
Rakish Audacity: Add Charisma Modifier to Initiative roles. Also if in melee against a foe that is the only creature within 5' of me I get sneak attack.
Sneak Attack: Sneak attack damage is now +2d6
NOTE: If possible (The Slice is willing to pay) I'd like to convert my daggers, and/or Shortsword to doing slashing damage instead of piercing damage. No mechanical advantage... just my character is named "The Slice", not "The Stab". He was originally designed for Pathfinder, where the daggers do slashing damage. Not a game killer, but it would be more fitting for the character.
ALSO... purchased an Acid Vial, Alchemist Fire, Pouch, and silk rope to replace my heavy hempen rope. With 58 GP remaining, he'll buy a 50 gp gem to save weight. He'll also spend the silver and copper partying and wenching about town.
leveling up:
+6 HP
+1 spell slot 1st lv
+2 spell slots 2nd lv
+2 spells known : Invisibility, Flaming Sphere
NOTE: If possible (The Slice is willing to pay) I'd like to convert my daggers, and/or Shortsword to doing slashing damage instead of piercing damage. No mechanical advantage... just my character is named "The Slice", not "The Stab". He was originally designed for Pathfinder, where the daggers do slashing damage. Not a game killer, but it would be more fitting for the character.
For flavor we will call it slashing, but mechanically the weapons do piercing as far as damage resistance/immunities go.
As far as I know the only finesse/light weapon that does slashing is a Scimitar and I do not believe you are proficient.
Enemy Versus Alex with disadvantage.
Enemy Versus Erdann with disadvantage.
Enemy Versus Pip with disadvantage
Enemy Versus Jelly with disadvantage.
Enemy versus Pip with disadvantage.
Spell attack against Erdann
Radiant
Initiative
Spell attack against Pip
radiant.
Enemy Versus Wolfgang with disadvantage
Enemy Versus Guard #2
Enemy Versus Alex
Uh oh.
Ok... wheww...... post is up.
Leader DC 13 Dex to avoid Flaming Sphere.
Guard #1 versus Scout #1
Guard #2 versus Scout #2
Spy #5 attacks Guard #1