Crypt of the Everflame (Inactive)

Game Master Nathan Hartshorn

Yeah I've been using it since Brezik and Gad got back from the small earth elementals. I'll be switching to a great sword long term but not 100% until I pick up Guided Hand which may get pushed to lvl 9 due to needing Heavy Armor prof. Though I'll be playing around with it and casting Ironskin or Bulls strength, get all Berzerk on these Razmiran fools!

That said, if anyone is wanting to go down the "sword and board" feat line I'm willing to hand over the +1 heavy bashing shield and +1 CI Mace whenever they need it as their main.

To Brezik's note on upgrading gear, I'm onboard with the 3150gp plan. I can masterwork all three weapons "in game tomorrow" as I have three lvl 2 spells slots. After that I can MW anything else people plan on holding onto long term, Gad's sword?.

At least for Viv, she'll be growing out of the gear she started with soon (armor mainly) so it'd be a waste of gold to spec it up. If she ends up with enough coin on her once things are bought, upgraded, and split she'll MW her great sword but otherwise it's not a priority at the moment for me.

I would love it if my 9-Ring Sword was MW.
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I will assume for now we will loot the empty temple after the remaining priests are arrested and before the place is burned down?

A +1 Bashing shield is a great thing unless nobody uses it.
Otherwise its a +2 shield effectively for gold purposes, or its just a big paper-weight.

@Brezik: I don't have a problem donating 1000gp back to the city/public.

OK everyone...I will go from here and try to put together the full list items to keep (and who gets what) then do the items for sale and work out that money too and get it divided up.

You're totally right, if we sell it and replace it with a mw heavy shield we'd come out ahead. 1830gp in fact. Now that it's not Vivian's only magic weapon she doesn't need it to be a weapon at all since she isn't a two-weapon fighter.

Only issue is significance, it was Kassen's right?

The cold iron weapon may prove valuable down the road. I would keep it, or buy another cold iron weapon, and a bludgeoning silver weapon, maybe a war hammer for Brezik.

Qina would definitely want to return the ill gotten gains if possible. She doesn't really need very much. She'd spend less than 100 gp and send the rest to her family or buy something the group needed. I'd like to get her a vest of escape at some point down the road.

Yes there is that.
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We could keep it as a memento for now and hang it over your College's fireplace mantle?

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So far this is what I'm seeing: (After completely looting the temple)

Total Loose money in GPs(coins and gems): 3766 gp
(NOT including the People's money Brezik wants to return)

Total Items to sell (@50%?): 7604/2 = 3802gp
(I'm assuming 50% loss after selling unless GM Fez will let us haggle?)

Estimated GROUP GOLD TOTAL: 7568 (Pending GM/PLAYER approvals)

NOW: Dividing the money by 6 (5 people plus Group fund split)
That is APPROX: 1261.33 GP per person (Not including Qina since she does not want much money.)

I will post further details later once I'm home an can do so. (If you think my numbers are off, please wait until I post details later.)

NOTE: We still need to get the city's reward too from the GM for final balance/tally.

Semi-Final Individual Stuff List:(Final Chance for words on these. I will update the final gold again once we have consensus.)

Please note if you think I missed ANYTHING!

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On Loot

We can sell the silver holy symbol of Sarenrae and masterwork shield.

Otherwise the only thing Allister hopes for is enough gold to purchase a set of full-plate armor and have it upgraded to masterwork. (I think that's 1500g just for the base set). I will offset some of the cost by selling my half-plate (should get 300g for it) and my gauntlets (1g). I will be purchasing a locked gauntlet as part of my full-plate set (8g).

Allister also has a Horn of Fog which we received much earlier in the campaign. Seeing as it has not yet been used, I will either give that to someone else or sell it. (base value 2000g). I could use that money to purchase my new masterwork falchion (see below) and upgrade my armor to masterwork.

As for the peoples' coin, I'm not sure how we will successfully return it to the people. Will it be an honor-based system? Or maybe we could use the gold to do something nice for the people of this city, like make plot of land where the Razmir temple once stood into a park or tribute, or start an orphanage?

On Weapons and Character Changes

I've also been thinking about what to do since Vivian is planning on making a transition to full plate and a greatsword. I don't want to compete for weapon and armor upgrades and have to roll or bargain if we should find something we are both interested in, so I might make a transition towards using falchion swords.

I took the feat Weapon Focus: Greatsword at 1st level, so I would need to take some time and re-train that to Weapon Focus: Falchion. I've been looking at a couple feats that improve critical strike range and threat, and would take them once I meet the requirements at level 8.

Rather than get rid of my Dawnguard masterwork greatsword, I think Allister will keep it as a backup weapon and use it ceremonially. (Think Geralt from Witcher). The falchion would be my new primary weapon.

Losing a roll for a sword upgrade is the true cause of all the ill will between Allister and his brother Baeloth. I don't want that to happen with Vivian too.

I think we can always try to build a copy of whatever we find so competing for items would be lesser than in some groups. You could also switch to bastard sword. That would allow you to keep a shield handy if you wanted. I think you should stay as greatsword but I can see your point about loot challenges.

You could also switch to Greataxe too. Same basic damage potential and x3 crits. You could actually have a full 'sun' carved on the axe too.
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The list looks good to me! Viv has been holding onto the chain links since Brezik gave them to her. She has just seen them as a plot item and wanted to return them to the Keep along with the other stolen items. Anyone can hold onto them really or if Gad has a different idea for them feel to pitch it to her ;)

I like this ever growing arsenal of Allister! Talk about a boyscout, always has the right weapon for the job! Kidding aside, I'm not worried about loot quarrels in the slightest. Viv is support, she casts more than she swings lately. If something came up Al would get first dibs as he packs the punch. So no worries, play whatever sounds good to you, we'll be good.

Bel wont keep any holy symbols from the temple, he's already got a silver one and believes the ones we took from the Razmirans to be tainted.

Put me towards the back of the queue for weapon upgrades as well. I have the +1 Dagger for now if we need magical and I can enchant my scythe (and indeed the dagger) much like Allister can. I'm more than happy to sell the dagger to pay to upgrade my scythe when the time comes.

I can see Viv rocking around with a warhammer, great for making and breaking!

I like All's plan to spend the coin on something for the city rather than just giving it away, maybe a little morgue!

Hey guys sorry to inturupt but I just wanted to pop in and say:

Wow this is still going?

HOpe you guys are having fun...I might lurk for a little bit but I won't bother you further with posting.

Mathpro! Good to hear from you! I hope things are well. It is pretty incredible that this is still going, eh? Pat yourself on the back, you picked a good group!

@Bel: I agree, I would love it if I could pick any weapon and inscribe it like Al's Dawnguard sword to make it my "Deities" weapon rather than just having to go with the one type.

Let's vote! Things I could see our characters wanting to do with it..
0 - Park
0 - Orphanage
0 - Morgue
0 - Public Smithing Complex
1 - Keepers of the Flame Adventuring College Tamran Campus

Yeah.. Viv can place a serious vote if needed, but the opportunity was too good.

We donate the money to create a Small park with Commemorative Statue (Bronze, with an eternal 'Flame' motif?) commissioned to specifically honor the Nirmathan lives lost during the war so far? Place it where the Razmiran Temple once stood?

1. Money goes back to city directly. (Brezik)
2. Commemorates war and death (Viv and Bel!)
3. Honors the common heroes of the war (Allister and Gad)
4. Reuses the burnt grounds of the temple for a good purpose (Qina?)

We can all win!

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I will do the final lists/gp tonight so we can move on once GM Fez is ready.

Viv is all down with the statue, especially if it is military/battle themed. Anyway we could get an artist from Kassen commissioned for it?

My feels

Still haven't gone over gameplay thread yet, may check back in here once I do.

My feels

Still haven't gone over gameplay thread yet, may check back in here once I do.

Glad you're feeling better. We missed ya.

Final Individual Stuff List:

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Final GPs tomorrow.

So glad your on the mend Fez, welcome back.

That's fantastic work Gad, thank you for sorting this.

Final tally: 1278gp 7sp 5cp

1. Each player gets this amount.
2. It includes the group funds account.
3. Excludes Qina (She did not want her share of the money).

So spend away!

@GM: How much to fix the boat we captured? Could we save some money with mending spells, and/or Brezik and my expertise(with ships)?

Truth be told it's cheaper to scuttle the thing and buy new. That thing was barely limping along before you managed to commandeer it, and is only worth 500 if sold.

Fantastic work once more Gad, thank you again!

That's before we even hold the town to ransom! ;)

@Fez. Now that we are finally getting some nice funds how do you want to sort shopping, do you want us to rollplay the whole thing or just a little "while we are in the town Bel buys 3x, 4y and a couple of z's"?

If you guys want to RP we can, but I don't think its entirely necessary in this city that is not your home.

Just realized I didn't pick up a feat on leveling up. Grabbed Power Attack.

I don't mean to sideline the game or misuse this discussion thread, but are any of you with me and crazy excited about Starfinder? That gameplay and Q&A yesterday really hit me like a shot of adrenaline. I can't wait to dig into it.

Third campaign? ;)

You lost me...I know about Starfinder, but Gampeplay? Q&A? Did I miss something?

Ok, now I'm confused, I thought we were stuck with a dead snake?

Are we just handwaving the clearout now that we are just looting? That's cool, just wanted to make sure.

No there was a lever that reset the stair trap.

@Gad: They did some live streaming on Wednesday, here. The Q&A transcribed here.

What Viv said, lever at the top of the walkway to get the stairs back up. But otherwise, yes loot and scoot.

I am incredible.

I completely missed your post Fez. My bad. I'm on track now.

Please help me itemize the new treasures when you guys get the time? (Unless you just want to keep it!)

1. Gold ring
2. Platinum Ring?
3. Bottles of Booze I think...(Qty?)
4. Other stuff we have yet to take into account for the group treasure?

Can anybody do some appraise rolls for these items?
Anything magical?
(Allister/Bel kinda got shafted so far on treasure this adventure, so they should get first pick in my opinion on any of this new stuff...)

Appraise: 1d20 + 3 ⇒ (6) + 3 = 9
Spellcraft: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (7) + 5 = 12
Spellcraft: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (6) + 5 = 11

Yeah, I got nothing.

Ring - 50
Wand - Bless (21 charges, 3rd level)
Belt pouch - 18gp, 2pp, 1 pearl (100gp)
Plat ring - 45
8 bottles, 25 per
Leather bag - 50pp
pot invis
silver raven figurine of wondrous power

As time is spent figuring this stuff out of course...

Well once this stuff is gone over and divided...Wait...the gold ring is MORE expensive then the platinum ring? Must be a design thing then?

What do you guys think?

Give the Wand to Bel? Or can Allister use it too?

Silver Raven...that's just funny there with Qina's familiar too. A good substitute for a familiar really. Anybody interested? (I still think Bel and Allister should have first dibs here as well...?)

Keep the Invis. potions with Brezik?

Other than more cash, you can count me out on any of this stuff.

The silver raven figurine of wondrous power could be a twin to Qina's Raven (Crow?), but Allister would be beyond happy if he had a pet bird for himself too. If Bel wants it for the whole macabre shtick that would be cool with me too.

Also, could I get an appraisal ok the gemstone chair? I'm not expecting much, I know it's gilded instead of solid and the gemstones sound small. Allister is just very enamored by it. If that's all he gets, he will think he came out on top.

OK...I figured the throne into our group cash earlier already.

I will have to deduct that money (the gems) from the group funds if you keep the throne/chair Allister. (Sorry! I didn't think anyone would want to keep it!)

Technically, you are welcome to it if you want it, in my opinion.
Ship it back to Kassen?

DC 15 Appraise:

The curtains in this room are made of fine silk, worth 700gp, though the amount of them means they are heavy. Similarly the gold censures are worth 10gp a piece, the water pipe 30gp, and the throne is covered in semi-precious and precious stones. These amount to: 20 agates (10gp/per) 5 carnelians (60gp/per) and 1 topaz (500gp)

Brezik rolled a 17 on his appraise check to figure this out.... It's all the stuff in the throne room. I bolded the part that would interest Allister. and I'm all for not tearing the piece of workmanship that is Allisters new lounging chair apart.

Thanks, not sure how I missed that!

Honestly, I'm not sure how Allister plans on keeping a 200lb chair. I suspect that after a couple glorious sittings he will come to the hard truth that it is impractical and try to sell it. The fact that it has a wooden frame, not solid gold or gilded stone, will probably nag at the back of his mind. Or maybe it will be painfully uncomfortable.

If he does decide to keep it, that gold cost should only be subtracted from Allister's total, not from everyone's share (it would be pure greed, not actually useful in any way and the group shouldn't have to pay for it).

In all honesty, I feel things should be shared equally regardless. I should have spoken up earlier but I think Qina should still get her cut. The money just going back to Kassen would be a huge positive for Viv, benefiting the community is kind of what we started out doing right?

So I guess I'm calling for a recount after this haul, spread into 7ths (party fund). Final answer.

No, no no, no no no. It's Qina's decision not to take a cut and it doesn't mean she won't take later cuts. The money is more useful to her to have her meat shields with better armor and weapons. There isn't a lot she can afford to buy at low levels anyway. 100 gold is all she wants/needs/will accept.

And I think Allister should keep his chair. Even if he doesn't want it, the commander of a fort should have a nice chair for diplomacy purposes. There are magical ways to shrink the chair and we have two bags of holding, it shouldn't be too much of a problem.

If no one wants the figurine, Qina will take it but I think Allister should take it, or maybe even Brezik.

Looks like everyone is on a different page here now...

We need to come to some sort of a consensus.
Let's hear from Bel, then we can see where all this treasure goes.

Fair enough Qina, proud to be your meat shield!

Vivian is fine will selling all of it, fine with anyone keeping anything they desire.

I too am uncomfortable nicking all of Qina's loot. But if you insist.

I would love the figurine, could roleplay all day with that! And the wand will always be useful to the team, doesn't matter who carries it really, with the area buff but with it being bone and all...

I'm conscious of being greedy though...

With someone other than Viv holding the wand we can stack the buffs of two Bless spells in a single round right?

Bel I'm all for you taking the wand. Want to roll for the raven figurine?

Allister is getting a gemstone chair and buying a new set of full plate, so either way he's happy.

I'm up for that.

For the Birdy: 1d20 ⇒ 17 ... I'll take that.

Viv, don't think we can stack bless bonuses can we? But it'll have you a spell slot back.