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Warah wrote:
DoubleGold wrote:

Air Walk: Now melee enemies can't reach you at all, just flier and archers. Primal

Fly: Has the same speed, duration and casting actions as air walk. Am I missing something here? Primal and Arcane.
You can take a 5' step with Air Walk, but apparently not while Flying. My aerokineticist took some heavy hits while flying during a cavern fight because she couldn't stay far enough away to avoid triggering attacks of opportunity. Also, you may have to meet DCs to do certain things while flying (Hover=DC 15, 180 degree turn=DC 20, etc.), but not while Air Walking.

Sadly, I think the rules for these are probably different in PF2. Air walk might allow you to step when flying doesn't? I wouldn't know how they are different otherwise.


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You're missing that Air Walk is on the divine list and Fly is not. Fly can also be heightened at 7th level where Air Walk cannot. They just both happen to be on the Primal list.


DungeonMaster

I did look at the divine and occult list to there Blake, but the Divine list has very few spells that can help an archer directly or even indirectly. Level 1 only has magic weapon, and Bless which is good. Level 2 has water walk which is very situational and darkness which is on every list. Level 3 has a direct effect called heroism. Level 4 has air walk. And Level 5 I can finally get a wall. A wall of Flesh which only goes in straight line and cannot be formed to your likings. Occult spells, since it goes off of Cha, and assuming you are a Dwarf, can only be obtained at level 2 if you are the Witch archtype which runs off of int. Occult spells are good, but you are also dealing with a familiar you have to keep alive.


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No. I wasn't telling you to look at the divine list. You asked what you were missing between Air Walk and Fly. Air Walk is on the divine list and Fly is not. They just happen to both be on the primal list, but Air Walk is the only way to travel through the air with a divine list barring a deity that grants Fly to your list.

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He/Him

Air walk has the serious action economy advantage of being treated like walking. When you're flying, you have to spend an action to fly or hover every round or you fall.


DungeonMaster

Okay, yeah, I was asking how fly and air walk vary mechanically. and It was answered for me. Warah answered that. Though fly can be heightened, air walk can't.


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Warrah answered that for PF1. There are no checks with flight in PF2.

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He/Him

That's not entirely true. For difficult conditions or complicated maneuvers, there's the Maneuver in Flight trained action of Acrobatics.

Silver Crusade

Female Human Level 5 Homemaker
GM Blake wrote:
Warrah answered that for PF1. There are no checks with flight in PF2.

Oops! Wrong Lodge. Blushes furiously, then edges out the door.

Grand Archive

NG Male Gutsy Halfling Teacher Investigator (Medic) 5 Surgeon Instructor | HP 51/51 | AC: 22 | F +8 R +13 W +12 | Perc +12 | 25 feet | Class DC 21 |1 Hero point| Exploration Activity: Investigate (Society +13)| Active Investigations: Case of the Jistikan Relic; Case of the Interference| Active Conditions: None

So question here, I made Symeon here with the Experienced Adventurer boon from the playtest (cause I just barely earned enough points for it) but I'm unsure how much gold he should be starting with. The boon states he starts with 30 gp and 12 experience, but I know that similarly worded boons in the past in SFS gave you that in addition to the starting wealth from a brand new character. Is that the same here? Should he start with only 30 gp or 45 gp?


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I would search the PFS forums for the boon because I know there's a thread on it. I believe the answer was 30 gp, but the thread has the answer.

Grand Archive

NG Male Gutsy Halfling Teacher Investigator (Medic) 5 Surgeon Instructor | HP 51/51 | AC: 22 | F +8 R +13 W +12 | Perc +12 | 25 feet | Class DC 21 |1 Hero point| Exploration Activity: Investigate (Society +13)| Active Investigations: Case of the Jistikan Relic; Case of the Interference| Active Conditions: None

I've only been able to dig up two threads on this, one where one person states that they believe it should give both and built like that and then someone else argues that it shouldn't . And then a second thread specifically about this that the second person from thread 1 states it makes sense it shouldn't. I can't find any ruling by someone who can say definitively. It could however be my googlefu is weak.

I've built him to be compliant with a 30 gp start but having some extra gp would be great.

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Will see if I can get you a solid answer.


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Symeon Isafira wrote:
The boon states he starts with 30 gp and 12 experience

This seems like pretty compelling evidence he starts with 30 gp and 12 XP.

This has indirectly come up before when discussing the discrepancy between the WBL guidelines in the CRB (Level 2 = 30 gp) and a character that plays through PFS Level 1 (15+42 = 57 gp at full TB, 15+33 gp = 48 gp at 80% TB).

People who seem like they speak with authority (I honestly have no idea who's in charge of such things) have declared the discrepancy to be intentional - that players are expected to use a large part of their TBs to buy consumables which are used.

As unrealistic as I consider the explanation to be, it seems all self-consistent: if you play through Level 1, you're expected to earn 33 gp and use 18 gp of consumables; if you create a new Level 2 character, you're expected to follow the WBL guidelines from the CRB and start with 30 gp; those two are supposed to match.

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You do indeed start with just the 30 gold and not 45. The reasoning is drawn right from the lump sum found here

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NG Male Gutsy Halfling Teacher Investigator (Medic) 5 Surgeon Instructor | HP 51/51 | AC: 22 | F +8 R +13 W +12 | Perc +12 | 25 feet | Class DC 21 |1 Hero point| Exploration Activity: Investigate (Society +13)| Active Investigations: Case of the Jistikan Relic; Case of the Interference| Active Conditions: None
Tyranius wrote:
You do indeed start with just the 30 gold and not 45. The reasoning is drawn right from the lump sum found here

Perfect! Thank-you.

Watery Soup wrote:
Symeon Isafira wrote:
The boon states he starts with 30 gp and 12 experience
This seems like pretty compelling evidence he starts with 30 gp and 12 XP.

Problem with this is that there's a similar boon that is similarly worded where it's been ruled that the character gets the starting 1000 credits and the credits stated in the boon.

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There is a new blog for PFS2E!

PFS Digital Update

New boons in the AcP store. Also January 31 is the last day to use Fame to purchase boons. As of that date, any remaining Fame will have no value and cannot be used. The “Retired Rewards” section will remain in the Guide for reference, but Fame will no longer be earned or spent in any way. Boons purchased with Fame can still be used, and progression boons such as Eager Protégé can be fulfilled.

Check out the new Additional Resources: Character Options Page!

PFS Character options


Regarding the deadline to spend Fame to purchase boons, I haven't been following this discussion so forgive me if this has been covered to death, but is this an instance of: a) 'after 1/31 your Fame gets converted to ACP (or something else worthwhile)' and therefore if you don't spend it it retains value, just in a new form; b) 'after 1/31 your Fame vaporizes and you get nothing in return' so if you have any Fame you really should spend it on something now; c) something else? Many thanks for any guidance someone can give me - I'm sure I've got several characters with Fame that I have not paid attention to so far.


Looks like the answer is remaining fame is lost.


Thanks. Ok, I guess I'll look for stuff to spend it on - the only options are the various faction boons, right?


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Yes

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Pirate Rob has it correct.


Much appreciated everyone. Guess I'll be hiring some hirelings... :-)


One of my characters has 27 Fame which is about to disappear into the ether (due the Jan 31 cutoff of the Fame system). Not to jinx him or anything but can I spend 25 Fame to buy a Resurrection ritual for him and save it for the future?


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I'm prefacing this with, "I don't know how the OP team would rule."

I wondered that myself and then spent it all on other more active boons. Since it is a "Service" boon, I would expect it to take effect when you buy it.


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GM Blake wrote:

I'm prefacing this with, "I don't know how the OP team would rule."

I wondered that myself and then spent it all on other more active boons. Since it is a "Service" boon, I would expect it to take effect when you buy it.

Correct, the service tag is an instantaneous, one-time favor after which it grants no further benefit. If you were to buy it in advance then it would have no effect. Same for any of the other retired service tag boons.


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Ok thanks and makes sense. I'll spend it on other stuff.

Vigilant Seal

N Female Goblin Warrior Barbarian 1 | 20/20 HP | AC 18 | F: +7 R: +5 W: +4 | Perc +4 (darkvision) | Hero Point: 2
Tyranius wrote:
A new playtest is now live. Just keep in mind that it is only active until February 5th so not a lot of time for PbP but you should be able to get a little bit in.

If a scenario is started within the playtest period (like... today) but ends after February 5th can a person still use the playtest characters?


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I wouldn't expect so.

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Outpost IV Announcement

Players may now sign up for more games. Table limits have been removed.

Players may also now be at one table of each special, if desired. You still may not be at more than one table of the same special.

Sign up Here! (Link)

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For those playing The Slithering. it has now been Sanctioned. :)

Slithering Sanctioning (Link)

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PaizoCon 2021 Announcement

Great news everyone! PbP games are going to be incorporated into PaizoCon Online 2021!!!

The VO team is working on the scenario listing with the PaizoCon Committee but for now what you will need to do is read over the Blog for PaizoCon.

PaizoCon Online 2021 (Link)

Then if you are interested in being a GM for PbP you will need to go and complete the PaizoCon 2021 Volunteer Registration at the link below.

Organized Play Foundation website (Volunteer Registration)

Important ((This is important or you will be assigned a VTT table.)) There is not a radial to distinguish PbP within the form so at the end of the questionnaire, underneath additional comments, you need to type in that you are a Play-by-Post GM underneath the question Any other items you would like the organizing committee to consider in reviewing your application?

Also do not forget to join the PaizoCon Online 2021 Discord server. The link can be found in the blog post above.


DungeonMaster

So Gms get a free badge if they host more than 4 games. If you are only gming but not playing and you host less than 4 games, do you still have to pay the $25 fee?


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Normally. But the place to ask to know for certain is the PaizoCon discussion thread.

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Yes, if you Gm less than 4 games you have to pay for the 25$ badge. Though please do not take on 4 PbP games if you cannot handle it for a free badge. I myself signed up for 2 slots as we need to be able to GM these games at a decent pace and they need to have our fullest attention to make a good first impression.

This is a good chance for PbP to shine and draw in more people.

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He/Him
Tyranius wrote:

Yes, if you Gm less than 4 games you have to pay for the 25$ badge. Though please do not take on 4 PbP games if you cannot handle it for a free badge. I myself signed up for 2 slots as we need to be able to GM these games at a decent pace and they need to have our fullest attention to make a good first impression.

This is a good chance for PbP to shine and draw in more people.

Tonya clarified that GMs who are *only GMing* don't have to pay, regardless of how many slots they are running.

Tonya wrote:

No fees are needed unless you plan on playing. When registration opens tomorrow, there are 4 badge options. Player, GM 4+, GM 1-3 Play and GM 1-3 No Play. Player and GM 1-3 Play cost $, the other two are $0. Because GMs shouldn't have to pay to GM

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Lost Omens Ancestry guide sanctioning and boons are now available!

(80 AcP) Azarketi, Kitsune, Genikin, Ganzi, Fetchling, and Aphorite

(160 AcP) Strix, Sprite, Fleshwarp, Beastkin, and Android

Envoy's Alliance

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820-2001 | "She / Her" | ♫ NG Female Gnome (Fey-Touched) Barrister Bard 9 ♫ | HP 98/98 | AC 24 | F +16 R +16 W +17 | Perc +14 | 35 Speed | Focus 2/2 | Spells 1st 3/3 Spell 2nd 3/3 3rd 3/3 4th 3/3 5th 2/2 (DC 27) | Hero Points 2/2 | Campaign Coin 1/1 | Vestments 1/1 | Active Conditions: ---

Oh my gosh, Sprite will take a long time to save up for! Still, gnomes are much the same thing, just a little larger. Right?

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Sprite would be kind of neat being a tiny creature. Fleshwarp will definitely have a good bit of roleplay backstory into it!


he/him

Time to very slowly save up for my Strix Summoner...

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Tyranius wrote:
Sprite would be kind of neat being a tiny creature. Fleshwarp will definitely have a good bit of roleplay backstory into it!

With Beastkin heritage for the ultimate AcP flex.

Or beastkin android! Transformers come to Golarion!


I knew I should have saved my AcP for azarketi and kayal. I spent mine on an orc and an aasimar figuring it'd be a few more years before they got around to the two most interesting ancestries on Golarion. :\


DungeonMaster

When I compare these races to the Pathfinder 1e versions, they only seem a little similar. The appearance and backstory is somewhat the same and the abilities, not one is exactly the same, but a few are similar to Pathfinder 1e.


I don't know what they were like in 1E, I never got to play them.

I meant that they have cultures that are distinct from other fantasy worlds (that I'm aware of) and histories that are independent of human history.


DungeonMaster

I too have never played many of those races or played them once. You just have to read up on them and compare them side by side. Fetchling for instance. Ifrit for another instance and all geniekin. Kitsune is pretty much the same, but upgraded cause of all the abilities at later levels. Assamir is the same and got better cause of ancestry guide.


How do you get AcP exactly for these purchases? On that note as well how far does PFS2e let you level I recall PF1e ended around 11-12 range iirc.


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Azil wrote:
How do you get AcP exactly for these purchases? On that note as well how far does PFS2e let you level I recall PF1e ended around 11-12 range iirc.

You get ACP any time a game you played in or GMed gets reported on the Paizo site. The amount will be more from some conventions. You can see your current ACP total by going into "My Account"/"Organized Play" and then the boon page.

Right now the highest any scenario goes is 5-8. I expect that will go higher.


BretI wrote:
Azil wrote:
How do you get AcP exactly for these purchases? On that note as well how far does PFS2e let you level I recall PF1e ended around 11-12 range iirc.

You get ACP any time a game you played in or GMed gets reported on the Paizo site. The amount will be more from some conventions. You can see your current ACP total by going into "My Account"/"Organized Play" and then the boon page.

Right now the highest any scenario goes is 5-8. I expect that will go higher.

Right on, thank ya Bretl, I just knew how boons n such worked in 1st. Good to find out how it works in 2e, does it build to your profile or individual characters. By the look it's tied to characters.


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The AcP are pooled by your Org Play account. In order to purchase a boon, you first need to select a character to apply it to from a drop down list, then the boon is applied to that character number.

Grand Lodge

m Human Commoner 10

Anyone know what's up with the Org Play guide? I can't get it to open at all and it's saying there's a problem with the security certificate.

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