paizo.com Recent Discussion Posts for Agents of Cheliax: Infiltrating, Subverting and Corrupting for Thrunepaizo.com Recent Discussion Posts for Agents of Cheliax: Infiltrating, Subverting and Corrupting for Thrune2016-11-23T15:23:46Z2016-11-23T15:23:46ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Agents of Cheliax: Infiltrating, Subverting and Corrupting for Thrune DiscussionYaos (alias of Joynt Jezebel)https://paizo.com/campaigns/AgentsOfCheliaxInfiltratingSubvertingAndCorruptingForThrune/discussion&page=2#702016-12-25T10:03:39Z2016-12-25T10:03:39Z<p>Hey GM Ray-</p>
<p>I took your suggestion and posted Yaos's action, an attack.</p>
<p>Magnius has indicated in his earlier gameplay posts we should attack them before they escape. Manius isn't here, I think, and Alfred is out of action lacking a computer. So I think this is sensible.</p>
<p>The post is longer and more complicated than I would like. I have not done any of the rolls yet. I thought I should give the GM a chance to indicate if my plans all work the way I envisaged.</p>
<p>This kind of situation is perfect for my character. If I know a fight is coming and can conjure things just before I can really kick ass. Less so in other situations.</p>Hey GM Ray-
I took your suggestion and posted Yaos's action, an attack.
Magnius has indicated in his earlier gameplay posts we should attack them before they escape. Manius isn't here, I think, and Alfred is out of action lacking a computer. So I think this is sensible.
The post is longer and more complicated than I would like. I have not done any of the rolls yet. I thought I should give the GM a chance to indicate if my plans all work the way I envisaged.
This kind of situation is...Yaos (alias of Joynt Jezebel)2016-12-25T10:03:39ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Agents of Cheliax: Infiltrating, Subverting and Corrupting for Thrune DiscussionAlfred Ensbridge (alias of Rostam)https://paizo.com/campaigns/AgentsOfCheliaxInfiltratingSubvertingAndCorruptingForThrune/discussion&page=2#692016-12-24T03:22:40Z2016-12-24T03:22:40Z<p>My computer just died and I expect it to be 3-4 days minimum until I can replace it. Just wanted to let you guys know.</p>My computer just died and I expect it to be 3-4 days minimum until I can replace it. Just wanted to let you guys know.Alfred Ensbridge (alias of Rostam)2016-12-24T03:22:40ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Agents of Cheliax: Infiltrating, Subverting and Corrupting for Thrune DiscussionW E Ray (alias of Molech)https://paizo.com/campaigns/AgentsOfCheliaxInfiltratingSubvertingAndCorruptingForThrune/discussion&page=2#682016-12-23T17:42:31Z2016-12-23T17:42:31Z<p>I started as a prof of English at the university but moved to private school college prep; I'm an academic dean now who still teaches as many classes as I can.</p>I started as a prof of English at the university but moved to private school college prep; I'm an academic dean now who still teaches as many classes as I can.W E Ray (alias of Molech)2016-12-23T17:42:31ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Agents of Cheliax: Infiltrating, Subverting and Corrupting for Thrune DiscussionYaos (alias of Joynt Jezebel)https://paizo.com/campaigns/AgentsOfCheliaxInfiltratingSubvertingAndCorruptingForThrune/discussion&page=2#672016-12-23T17:20:21Z2016-12-23T17:20:21Z<p>When I played a Master Summoner in an earlier tabletop game I always interpreted it literally, w/o even asking for a ruling. That is the influence of legal training and practice, I am literally a rules lawyer. Then I read in some sort of guide the literal interpretation was adopted by some GMs and regarded as pedantic and stingy.</p>
<p>I am certainly not complaining. :)</p>
<p>As for planar ally, the feat probably does get tricky. But I don't have the spell and it is not on the summoner list as far as I can see, so it's an academic point.</p>
<p>Which is probably why you are raising it, I understand you are an academic. What sort of English do you work in, if I may ask? I was an English major in my arts degree, long ago.</p>When I played a Master Summoner in an earlier tabletop game I always interpreted it literally, w/o even asking for a ruling. That is the influence of legal training and practice, I am literally a rules lawyer. Then I read in some sort of guide the literal interpretation was adopted by some GMs and regarded as pedantic and stingy.
I am certainly not complaining. :)
As for planar ally, the feat probably does get tricky. But I don't have the spell and it is not on the summoner list as far as I...Yaos (alias of Joynt Jezebel)2016-12-23T17:20:21ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Agents of Cheliax: Infiltrating, Subverting and Corrupting for Thrune DiscussionDM Ray (alias of Molech)https://paizo.com/campaigns/AgentsOfCheliaxInfiltratingSubvertingAndCorruptingForThrune/discussion&page=2#662016-12-23T16:07:30Z2016-12-23T16:07:30Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Yaos wrote:</div><blockquote> Superior Summoning: Each time you cast a summoning spell that conjures more than one creature, add one to the total number of creatures summoned. </blockquote><p>.
<p>I interpret that by intent more than by technicality. I posit the intent is that for spells with 1d3 or 1d4 or whatever, you get +1. So even when you roll a one you get two. This is opposed to spells where you summon just one — when you still get one. I don't feel the intent is at all to screw the Player when they roll a one on a d3. So while technically it clearly reads you're stuck with one when you roll a one, I will <i>not</i> rule it that way.</p>
<p><i>I do think this feat gets tricky with Planar Ally.</i></p>Yaos wrote:Superior Summoning: Each time you cast a summoning spell that conjures more than one creature, add one to the total number of creatures summoned.
. I interpret that by intent more than by technicality. I posit the intent is that for spells with 1d3 or 1d4 or whatever, you get +1. So even when you roll a one you get two. This is opposed to spells where you summon just one -- when you still get one. I don't feel the intent is at all to screw the Player when they roll a one on a d3....DM Ray (alias of Molech)2016-12-23T16:07:30ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Agents of Cheliax: Infiltrating, Subverting and Corrupting for Thrune DiscussionYaos (alias of Joynt Jezebel)https://paizo.com/campaigns/AgentsOfCheliaxInfiltratingSubvertingAndCorruptingForThrune/discussion&page=2#652016-12-23T06:27:06Z2016-12-23T06:27:06Z<p><b>Monkeygod:-</b></p>
<p>Most of what you say is 100% certain.</p>
<p>However here:-</p>
<p>"If, however, you cast Summon Monster IV to summon 1d3 leopards, you summon one more than whatever you roll.</p>
<p>If you roll a 1, you summon two. 2 you get 3, 3 gets ya 4."</p>
<p>This is also 100% certain, except:-</p>
<p>"If you roll a 1, you summon two."</p>
<p>If you read the feat, quoted just above, you have not actually summoned more than one creature, you have summoned exactly one.</p>
<p>I believe the RAW is:- If you roll a 1, you summon one. 2 you get 3, 3 gets ya 4.</p>
<p>However, some GMs interpret the rules as you say, some as I have just above. I need GM Ray's ruling to see if I have 5 or 6 leopards with the Aerial Template at my command in game.</p>
<p>On your other post, the ambush etc., as I said earlier, I can see why you are frustrated. But I think the best thing to do at this point is continue with the encounter as described and kill off those pesky halflings, taking care not to get carried away and kill Alfred as well.</p>
<p>Reversing things will take a while and be rather messy. We can put the whole thing down to just starting the campaign and move on.</p>Monkeygod:-
Most of what you say is 100% certain.
However here:-
"If, however, you cast Summon Monster IV to summon 1d3 leopards, you summon one more than whatever you roll.
If you roll a 1, you summon two. 2 you get 3, 3 gets ya 4."
This is also 100% certain, except:-
"If you roll a 1, you summon two."
If you read the feat, quoted just above, you have not actually summoned more than one creature, you have summoned exactly one.
I believe the RAW is:- If you roll a 1, you summon one. 2...Yaos (alias of Joynt Jezebel)2016-12-23T06:27:06ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Agents of Cheliax: Infiltrating, Subverting and Corrupting for Thrune DiscussionMonkeygodhttps://paizo.com/campaigns/AgentsOfCheliaxInfiltratingSubvertingAndCorruptingForThrune/discussion&page=2#642016-12-23T05:05:20Z2016-12-23T05:05:20Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Yaos wrote:</div><blockquote><p>OK. The feat Superior Summoning, which I have.</p>
<p>"You can summon more creatures.</p>
<p>Prerequisites: Augment Summoning, caster level 3rd.</p>
<p>Benefit: Each time you cast a summoning spell that conjures more than one creature, add one to the total number of creatures summoned."</p>
<p>So I get an extra leopard if I roll a 2 or 3. The question is if I get an extra one if I roll a 1. And it has just come up in game. </blockquote><p>I'm not positive, but I believe the way it works is:
<p>If you cast Summon Monster 1, you summon only 1 monster, as normal. </p>
<p>If you cast Summon Monster 2-9, and you opt to summon a monster off of the matching list(A leopard using summon monster 3) you summon one leopard. </p>
<p>If, however, you cast Summon Monster IV to summon 1d3 leopards, you summon one more than whatever you roll. </p>
<p>If you roll a 1, you summon two. 2 you get 3, 3 gets ya 4. </p>
<p>If you were to use SM IV to summon a pack of wolves(from the level 2 list), you would effectively summon 1d4+2, getting at the very least 3 and at the most 6.</p>Yaos wrote:OK. The feat Superior Summoning, which I have.
"You can summon more creatures.
Prerequisites: Augment Summoning, caster level 3rd.
Benefit: Each time you cast a summoning spell that conjures more than one creature, add one to the total number of creatures summoned."
So I get an extra leopard if I roll a 2 or 3. The question is if I get an extra one if I roll a 1. And it has just come up in game.
I'm not positive, but I believe the way it works is: If you cast Summon Monster 1,...Monkeygod2016-12-23T05:05:20ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Agents of Cheliax: Infiltrating, Subverting and Corrupting for Thrune DiscussionMonkeygodhttps://paizo.com/campaigns/AgentsOfCheliaxInfiltratingSubvertingAndCorruptingForThrune/discussion&page=2#632016-12-23T04:53:20Z2016-12-23T04:53:20Z<p>Uh...</p>
<p>What? </p>
<p>My post has nothing to do with how long in took us to get to the halflings. </p>
<p>The first half of my post was a rebuttal to your claiming we didn't spend a 'great deal of time strategizing'. Which, I never said btw. I said we spent 'so much time', which is true. Its also true well over 50% of the posts here in the discussion thread are probably us talking about our plans. </p>
<p>The second half is my frustration that you were apparently impatient to start gameplay, despite all of us still trying to figure out our options. </p>
<p>Here's what I see as what's going on: </p>
<p>We were planning on ambushing the caravan and so were the Bellflower Network. </p>
<p>Somehow, we didn't scour the ambush site, which for 8th level characters is insipidly stupid. That aside, we still might not have found the halflings, even if we did. </p>
<p>Upon hearing the sounds of combat, Yaos could have cast Haste, giving her and I a movement speed of 80ft as we're on horses. With the invisibility centered on her, that means the two of us are fine, even if the rest of the party isn't also mounted. </p>
<p>Run action gives us a movement of 320, meaning we reach the fight in 3 rounds, which should have been enough time to interrupt combat. </p>
<p>On top of that, our target is already dead. Which renders us and our plans wasted. Which is supremely frustrating, especially considering this was the entire point of our beginning plot. Kill Franseco, and then usurp his barony. </p>
<p>Instead, we've been usurped by a band on halfings that we don't even get a chance to stop. </p>
<p>Its almost like, why did we even bother with all of this in the first place? If the second ambush was gonna happen regardless of what we decided, why not just tell us that our target will be killed off, and save all the hassle. </p>
<p>It basically boils down to you didn't trust us PCs to do the right thing, and instead badly and poorly railroaded the plot.</p>Uh...
What?
My post has nothing to do with how long in took us to get to the halflings.
The first half of my post was a rebuttal to your claiming we didn't spend a 'great deal of time strategizing'. Which, I never said btw. I said we spent 'so much time', which is true. Its also true well over 50% of the posts here in the discussion thread are probably us talking about our plans.
The second half is my frustration that you were apparently impatient to start gameplay, despite all of us...Monkeygod2016-12-23T04:53:20ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Agents of Cheliax: Infiltrating, Subverting and Corrupting for Thrune DiscussionYaos (alias of Joynt Jezebel)https://paizo.com/campaigns/AgentsOfCheliaxInfiltratingSubvertingAndCorruptingForThrune/discussion&page=2#622016-12-23T04:41:23Z2016-12-23T04:41:23Z<p>I am sorry Magnius feels frustrated. And that I was hassling him to roll initiative when he already had. It is easy to get confusions in PbP I think, as compared to over the table, especially when you are new to each other.</p>
<p>Two questions- How far away are the Halflings?</p>
<p>And we are going to kill these halflings yes?</p>I am sorry Magnius feels frustrated. And that I was hassling him to roll initiative when he already had. It is easy to get confusions in PbP I think, as compared to over the table, especially when you are new to each other.
Two questions- How far away are the Halflings?
And we are going to kill these halflings yes?Yaos (alias of Joynt Jezebel)2016-12-23T04:41:23ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Agents of Cheliax: Infiltrating, Subverting and Corrupting for Thrune DiscussionYaos (alias of Joynt Jezebel)https://paizo.com/campaigns/AgentsOfCheliaxInfiltratingSubvertingAndCorruptingForThrune/discussion&page=2#612016-12-23T04:36:30Z2016-12-23T04:36:30Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Quote:</div><blockquote><p><b>EDIT:</b>
</p>
Wait, I was looking at your posts again — man I really gotta stop posting this late at night; I think I completely misunderstood your question, too. I need to go to bed. Um, what are you talking about with the <i>Do you get a 1 or a 2 on a roll of "1"?</i> </blockquote><p>OK.
</p>
The feat Superior Summoning, which I have.</p>
<p>"You can summon more creatures.</p>
<p>Prerequisites: Augment Summoning, caster level 3rd.</p>
<p>Benefit: Each time you cast a summoning spell that conjures more than one creature, add one to the total number of creatures summoned."</p>
<p>So I get an extra leopard if I roll a 2 or 3. The question is if I get an extra one if I roll a 1. And it has just come up in game.</p>Quote:EDIT:
Wait, I was looking at your posts again -- man I really gotta stop posting this late at night; I think I completely misunderstood your question, too. I need to go to bed. Um, what are you talking about with the Do you get a 1 or a 2 on a roll of "1"?
OK.
The feat Superior Summoning, which I have."You can summon more creatures.
Prerequisites: Augment Summoning, caster level 3rd.
Benefit: Each time you cast a summoning spell that conjures more than one creature, add one to the...Yaos (alias of Joynt Jezebel)2016-12-23T04:36:30ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Agents of Cheliax: Infiltrating, Subverting and Corrupting for Thrune DiscussionDM Ray (alias of Molech)https://paizo.com/campaigns/AgentsOfCheliaxInfiltratingSubvertingAndCorruptingForThrune/discussion&page=2#602016-12-23T03:34:55Z2016-12-23T03:34:55Z<p>Okay I think I may have misunderstood your complaint.</p>
<p>Were you concerned/frustrated because Halflings ambushed the caravan before you did? That's what I thought you were mentioning. That's what I responded to.</p>
<p>But your last post confused me. </p>
<p>Are you instead concerned/frustrated because, after the Halflings ambushed the caravan, I let you guys move the 1200 feet in the mundane way, arriving to the fight after several rounds — since that's how long it takes to move 1200 feet?</p>
<p>I thought I was clear that a choice using magic to get there immediately would get you to the fight, while a choice of moving there normally, including moving slowly a bit for buffs, would likely get there after a fight. ....And I thought you guys were clear on wanting to walk together inside the Invisibility Sphere.</p>
<p>I also thought I waited long enough to get everyone's voice on whether to get there immediately using magic or something, or just walk there.</p>
<p>I'm not convinced I did anything wrong in making the fight go to its conclusion while you guys walked the 1200 feet to where the Halflings ambushed the caravan.</p>
<p>....In any case, why don't we mention what we think ought to be done.</p>Okay I think I may have misunderstood your complaint.
Were you concerned/frustrated because Halflings ambushed the caravan before you did? That's what I thought you were mentioning. That's what I responded to.
But your last post confused me.
Are you instead concerned/frustrated because, after the Halflings ambushed the caravan, I let you guys move the 1200 feet in the mundane way, arriving to the fight after several rounds -- since that's how long it takes to move 1200 feet?
I thought I...DM Ray (alias of Molech)2016-12-23T03:34:55ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Agents of Cheliax: Infiltrating, Subverting and Corrupting for Thrune DiscussionMonkeygodhttps://paizo.com/campaigns/AgentsOfCheliaxInfiltratingSubvertingAndCorruptingForThrune/discussion&page=2#592016-12-23T03:19:57Z2016-12-23T03:19:57Z<p>Ray, we posted at the same time. Please see my above reply.</p>Ray, we posted at the same time. Please see my above reply.Monkeygod2016-12-23T03:19:57ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Agents of Cheliax: Infiltrating, Subverting and Corrupting for Thrune DiscussionDM Ray (alias of Molech)https://paizo.com/campaigns/AgentsOfCheliaxInfiltratingSubvertingAndCorruptingForThrune/discussion&page=2#582016-12-23T03:08:27Z2016-12-23T03:08:27Z<p>@ Yaos,</p>
<p><span class="messageboard-dice"><b>Summoning Leopards:</b></span> <span class="messageboard-dice">1d3 ⇒ 3</span>
<br />
Hopefully not
<br />
<span class="messageboard-dice"><b>Summoning Infernal Dire Tigers:</b></span> <span class="messageboard-dice">1d77 ⇒ 39</span>
<br />
Maybe my homebrew Astral Deva will cast
<br />
<span class="messageboard-dice"><b>Summon Unicorns:</b></span> <span class="messageboard-dice">1d1001 ⇒ 700</span></p>
<p>You guys sorta have a surprise round in that they don't know you're here yet — you could all Hold until you all go first — and then get Full Round Actions instead of Standard or Move. Heck, you could just observe them for a few rounds.</p>
<p>.</p>
<p><b>EDIT:</b>
<br />
Wait, I was looking at your posts again — man I really gotta stop posting this late at night; I think I completely misunderstood your question, too. I need to go to bed. Um, what are you talking about with the <i>Do you get a 1 or a 2 on a roll of "1"?</i></p>@ Yaos,
[dice=Summoning Leopards]1d3[/dice]
Hopefully not
[dice=Summoning Infernal Dire Tigers]1d77[/dice]
Maybe my homebrew Astral Deva will cast
[dice=Summon Unicorns]1d4126[/dice]
You guys sorta have a surprise round in that they don't know you're here yet -- you could all Hold until you all go first -- and then get Full Round Actions instead of Standard or Move. Heck, you could just observe them for a few rounds.
.
EDIT:
Wait, I was looking at your posts again -- man I really gotta...DM Ray (alias of Molech)2016-12-23T03:08:27ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Agents of Cheliax: Infiltrating, Subverting and Corrupting for Thrune DiscussionMonkeygodhttps://paizo.com/campaigns/AgentsOfCheliaxInfiltratingSubvertingAndCorruptingForThrune/discussion&page=2#572016-12-23T03:08:01Z2016-12-23T03:08:01Z<p>Actually, there's 56 posts so far in discussion starting on the 16th. 5 of them are this recent conversation. 1 was my commenting my initiative. </p>
<p>A few others were random comments, so let's say conservatively 40 posts are on our strategy. That's 71% of our posts. Even if we drop that down to 35, its still 62%. </p>
<p>Both of which is well over <b>half</b> the posts in discussion. </p>
<p>Let me state right now, for the record of all: I'm not mad, nor will I walk out of this game, atm. </p>
<p>What I am is frustrated. Ray you stated, several times I believe, that you started gameplay when you did out of nothing but impatience. </p>
<p>Which is incredibly unfair to us players. Especially factoring in the holidays and the fact that there's some apparently ungood things going on in Almagafor's life. Which, we didn't know about till he posted, but that's besides the point. You posted all this new stuff today, so we knew what was going on. Not saying you should have waited, but I definitely think having jumped the gun with the halflings was the wrong decision. </p>
<p>Now, I think a full retcon is likely out of the question. And, I'm not sure if there's a way to save this mess. Because believe me, that's exactly what this is. </p>
<p>I'm withholding posting in gameplay till we try and resolve this.</p>Actually, there's 56 posts so far in discussion starting on the 16th. 5 of them are this recent conversation. 1 was my commenting my initiative.
A few others were random comments, so let's say conservatively 40 posts are on our strategy. That's 71% of our posts. Even if we drop that down to 35, its still 62%.
Both of which is well over half the posts in discussion.
Let me state right now, for the record of all: I'm not mad, nor will I walk out of this game, atm.
What I am is frustrated....Monkeygod2016-12-23T03:08:01ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Agents of Cheliax: Infiltrating, Subverting and Corrupting for Thrune DiscussionDM Ray (alias of Molech)https://paizo.com/campaigns/AgentsOfCheliaxInfiltratingSubvertingAndCorruptingForThrune/discussion&page=2#562016-12-23T02:30:20Z2016-12-23T02:30:20Z<p>@ Magnius,
<br />
Yes, you are right. I blundered. When I saw your post, I realized it. I responded so you could at least see I spent time thinking about it — a few weeks of time prior to gameplay. And that I am taking your complaint seriously. This <i>IS</i> a game where I need the Players to drive their plans forward. And at our first at-bat, I <i>DID</i> trump and usurp any Player plans. I didn't see it as I designed the opening scene but when you posted your complaint I saw it immediately. Again, I hope that you'll give me the benefit of the doubt that I am not intending to make this mistake again and that, had I realized what I was designing, I would have altered the design.</p>
<p>I do think that it is okay to 'adapt.' There are ways to raise Francesco Phandros if you want to talk with him. In fact, you could probably wield that as political power — the ones who brought the young Phandros back to life.</p>
<p>I'm reticent to point this out; I don't want it to look like I'm trying to justify my mistake. But for posterity, two PCs posted in Discussion merely two posts each, ideas for an ambush. And they were vague and reaching. I posted that I felt they were vague and reaching because you didn't have enough info on which to really plan an ambush. And within twenty-four hours of posting the Discussion for 'any plans,' I started gameplay. Please, I'm not backing off from my apology nor my acknowledgment that I blundered and that it could really hurt the start of this PbP — but I respectfully disagree that you spent a great deal of time strategizing.</p>@ Magnius,
Yes, you are right. I blundered. When I saw your post, I realized it. I responded so you could at least see I spent time thinking about it -- a few weeks of time prior to gameplay. And that I am taking your complaint seriously. This IS a game where I need the Players to drive their plans forward. And at our first at-bat, I DID trump and usurp any Player plans. I didn't see it as I designed the opening scene but when you posted your complaint I saw it immediately. Again, I hope that...DM Ray (alias of Molech)2016-12-23T02:30:20ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Agents of Cheliax: Infiltrating, Subverting and Corrupting for Thrune DiscussionMagnius Arvanxi (alias of Monkeygod)https://paizo.com/campaigns/AgentsOfCheliaxInfiltratingSubvertingAndCorruptingForThrune/discussion&page=2#552016-12-23T02:14:49Z2016-12-23T02:14:49Z<p>I rolled my initiative in my first in game post, with a 17.</p>I rolled my initiative in my first in game post, with a 17.Magnius Arvanxi (alias of Monkeygod)2016-12-23T02:14:49ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Agents of Cheliax: Infiltrating, Subverting and Corrupting for Thrune DiscussionYaos (alias of Joynt Jezebel)https://paizo.com/campaigns/AgentsOfCheliaxInfiltratingSubvertingAndCorruptingForThrune/discussion&page=2#542016-12-23T01:41:25Z2016-12-23T01:41:25Z<p>The workings of a GMs mind. I am well familiar with it, trying to steer a campaign in a particular direction w/o looking like obvious bull.</p>
<p>I think we adapt and try and smoke these pint sized rebels. Personally I care not at all about the change of plan. It is even realistic.</p>
<p>I will put stats for conjured things in the gameplay thread, seems most convenient.</p>
<p><b>Rules question</b> If I use summon monster for 1d3 Leopards, say. Do I get 1 or 2 on a roll of 1? GMs rule either way. My opinion is the RAW is I get one. It just came up in game.</p>
<p>Some questions as to where we are in game:-</p>
<p>1 Do we get a surprise round?</p>
<p>2 Do we use the same initiative or roll a new one. In any event we want initiative from Magnius I think.</p>The workings of a GMs mind. I am well familiar with it, trying to steer a campaign in a particular direction w/o looking like obvious bull.
I think we adapt and try and smoke these pint sized rebels. Personally I care not at all about the change of plan. It is even realistic.
I will put stats for conjured things in the gameplay thread, seems most convenient.
Rules question If I use summon monster for 1d3 Leopards, say. Do I get 1 or 2 on a roll of 1? GMs rule either way. My opinion is the...Yaos (alias of Joynt Jezebel)2016-12-23T01:41:25ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Agents of Cheliax: Infiltrating, Subverting and Corrupting for Thrune DiscussionMagnius Arvanxi (alias of Monkeygod)https://paizo.com/campaigns/AgentsOfCheliaxInfiltratingSubvertingAndCorruptingForThrune/discussion&page=2#532016-12-23T01:34:24Z2016-12-23T01:34:24Z<p>I think for this game, there needs to be a lot more player/GM interaction and teamwork than your standard game. </p>
<p>Because, having the halflings totally kill off our target totally usurps and trump us players. </p>
<p>You didn't even let us confront Francesco, and since none of us ended up having ties to him, I don't believe any of us had any problems killing Francesco. </p>
<p>Normally, this kinda thing is acceptable. After all, you're the GM, and this is your game we're playing. </p>
<p>However, in the initial interest, you made it clear we're all kinda mini-GMs. </p>
<p>Not only that, but we spent so much time in here in discussion talking about our plans, all for naught. If you never had any intention of us confronting Francesco, why did we waste so much time trying to strategize? </p>
<p>You basically deus ex machina us, but not in a good way.</p>I think for this game, there needs to be a lot more player/GM interaction and teamwork than your standard game.
Because, having the halflings totally kill off our target totally usurps and trump us players.
You didn't even let us confront Francesco, and since none of us ended up having ties to him, I don't believe any of us had any problems killing Francesco.
Normally, this kinda thing is acceptable. After all, you're the GM, and this is your game we're playing.
However, in the initial...Magnius Arvanxi (alias of Monkeygod)2016-12-23T01:34:24ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Agents of Cheliax: Infiltrating, Subverting and Corrupting for Thrune DiscussionDM Ray (alias of Molech)https://paizo.com/campaigns/AgentsOfCheliaxInfiltratingSubvertingAndCorruptingForThrune/discussion&page=2#522016-12-23T01:06:14Z2016-12-23T01:06:14Z<p>Oops, sorry Magnius (and anyone else peeved a bit).</p>
<p>When I thought about how I wanted to present the opening scene I considered a handful of things, unfortunately, <i>that</i> reaction wasn't one of them. (It probably should have been.) </p>
<p>[Spoiler omitted]</p>
<p>Anyhoo, hopefully you'll give me the benefit of the doubt that it is <i>Not</i> my intention to usurp or trump the Players' plans and ideas for moving gameplay forward.</p>Oops, sorry Magnius (and anyone else peeved a bit).
When I thought about how I wanted to present the opening scene I considered a handful of things, unfortunately, that reaction wasn't one of them. (It probably should have been.)
[Spoiler omitted]
Anyhoo, hopefully you'll give me the benefit of the doubt that it is Not my intention to usurp or trump the Players' plans and ideas for moving gameplay forward.DM Ray (alias of Molech)2016-12-23T01:06:14ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: Agents of Cheliax: Infiltrating, Subverting and Corrupting for Thrune DiscussionMagnius Arvanxi (alias of Monkeygod)https://paizo.com/campaigns/AgentsOfCheliaxInfiltratingSubvertingAndCorruptingForThrune/discussion&page=2#512016-12-23T00:04:02Z2016-12-23T00:04:02Z<p>Bah, gotta admit, its a little annoying our plans have been usurped by the halflings. </p>
<p>I mean, nice of them to do the work for us, but its almost like why did we even bother. </p>
<p>I probably would feel better if we could have attempted to either stop them, or at least show up AS the battle began.</p>Bah, gotta admit, its a little annoying our plans have been usurped by the halflings.
I mean, nice of them to do the work for us, but its almost like why did we even bother.
I probably would feel better if we could have attempted to either stop them, or at least show up AS the battle began.Magnius Arvanxi (alias of Monkeygod)2016-12-23T00:04:02Z