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Titanic Games / Messageboards / Paizo Community / Arts & Entertainment / Movies / Are there any remakes that are *better* than the original?     Recent Posts
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Are there any remakes that are *better* than the original?
Andoran houstonderek,

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Kirth Gersen wrote:
houstonderek wrote:
Puzo's Godfather? Eh...

If I were a reconstructive surgeon obsessed with the inner geometry of the female reproductive cavity, I would have enjoyed about a third of the book a whole lot more than I did. (That, and my imagination could never have given Sonny's character half of what James Caan brought to the role).

You've seen James Caan naked?

Paizo Employee Cosmo (Disturbing Customer Servant),

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Darkwolf wrote:
Sure, but when has any movie been better than the book it was based on?

Fight Club

I love the book and most of Palahniuk's writing, but the movie was just that good.

Qadira Wrath,

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Cosmo wrote:
Darkwolf wrote:
Sure, but when has any movie been better than the book it was based on?

Fight Club

I love the book and most of Palahniuk's writing, but the movie was just that good.


Another one I've never read the book for. Gotta say the movie was fantastic. The first time I'd never picked the ending of a movie for a looooong time.

Qadira Darkwolf (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, GameMastery Cards Subscriber),

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Wrath wrote:
Cosmo wrote:
Darkwolf wrote:
Sure, but when has any movie been better than the book it was based on?

Fight Club

I love the book and most of Palahniuk's writing, but the movie was just that good.


Another one I've never read the book for. Gotta say the movie was fantastic. The first time I'd never picked the ending of a movie for a looooong time.

Heh, I didn't know there was a book for that one.

Peebo Pickle Pardfart,

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Dawn of the Dead. Original scared me to death when it first came out but the remake was just fab!

Qadira Zeugma (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber),

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Total chick flicks, so you'll probably never see 'em, but I thought the Rosalind Russel "Gypsy" (1962) was worse than the Bette Middler (1993) version.

Cheliax Boxhead (Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Companion, Pathfinder Modules, Planet Stories Subscriber),

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Mr. and Mrs. Smith. There I said it. Highly entertaining, but the original is nowhere near Hitchcock's best work.

The Quick and the Dead, one of the of the few westerns I can stomach. Also, I love sam Raimi.

I'll bite on the Mummy. Brendan Fraser is such a great tongue-in-cheek action hero...

Ocean's 11 (and it's sequels) are also highly entertaining. Not neccesarily better, but still good.

Cheliax David Fryer,

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The second Hulk movie far surpassed the first or the television series.

Sanakht Inaros,

flash_cxxi wrote:
The Thing

Both are based on a the same short story by John Campbell called "Who Goes There?" John Carpenter's version, though updated from the source material, is damn near spot on the short story.

Taldor Cylerist (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber),

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flash_cxxi wrote:
The Thing

I LOVE the remake!!!
Good call!

James Keegan (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber),

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On the subject of books made into movies, I vastly prefer the movie version of Children of Men to the P.D. James novel.

Kruelaid (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Chronicles, Pathfinder Companion, Planet Stories Subscriber),

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Sanakht Inaros wrote:
flash_cxxi wrote:
The Thing

Both are based on a the same short story by John Campbell called "Who Goes There?" John Carpenter's version, though updated from the source material, is damn near spot on the short story.

I did not know that. Awesome piece of trivia.

Kirth Gersen (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Modules Subscriber),

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Kruelaid wrote:
Sanakht Inaros wrote:
flash_cxxi wrote:
The Thing

Both are based on a the same short story by John Campbell called "Who Goes There?" John Carpenter's version, though updated from the source material, is damn near spot on the short story.

I did not know that. Awesome piece of trivia.

d20 Modern has stats for the thing as well (under "Star Vampire"). But be warned; they've got TWK (Total World Kill) written all over them.

Xabulba,

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Evil dead 2 is a remake of evil dead and a better movie.

Andrew Betts (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber),

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Xabulba wrote:
Evil dead 2 is a remake of evil dead and a better movie.

Actually it is considered a sequel, not a remake.

IMDB wrote:
Often considered to be a remake of The Evil Dead (1981), however this is not accurate. The rights to show scenes from the original could not be obtained to re-cap what happened, so they recreated the beginning to explain how Ash got to the cabin, a headless Linda, etc.

Xabulba,

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Andrew Betts wrote:
Xabulba wrote:
Evil dead 2 is a remake of evil dead and a better movie.

Actually it is considered a sequel, not a remake.

IMDB wrote:
Often considered to be a remake of The Evil Dead (1981), however this is not accurate. The rights to show scenes from the original could not be obtained to re-cap what happened, so they recreated the beginning to explain how Ash got to the cabin, a headless Linda, etc.


Are you going to listen to a movie librarian or Sam Rami.
It's a remake.

Andoran Andrew Turner (Pathfinder Chronicles Charter Superscriber),

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I just watched the Bay remake of Friday the 13th--absolutely better than the original, however, I'm not sure what I would think if it were the original...

Technically, I think it's a re-imagining of all the sequels.

JBSchroeds,

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Wrath wrote:
At the risk of getting amazingly toasted by flaming here, but I'd have to say Peter Jackson's Lord of The Rings movies did far more for me than the books ever did, and I read them 4 or five times. I found his vision of them far more compelling and indeed had a more bleak outlook than Tolkiens books.

Wow, another person who thinks this. Personally, I thought the books were TERRIBLE. So bad in fact, that I never bothered to start RotK after finishing tTT. I liked the movies, just avoid watching all three extended editions in a single sitting (my friends and I were yelling at the TV, "JUST GET IN THE G-D BOAT ALREADY!!!1!" by the end of RotK).

Lyingbastard,

Andrew Turner wrote:
I just watched the Bay remake of Friday the 13th--absolutely better than the original, however, I'm not sure what I would think if it were the original...

Technically, I think it's a re-imagining of all the sequels.


I really enjoyed certain aspects of FriBay the 13th, specifically the attributes of the actresses given prominent display. Those were nice.

I thought it wasn't as atmospheric as the original, and the kills were less "OMGWTF!*scare*" and more "Dude!*laugh*"

Cheliax David Fryer,

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JBSchroeds wrote:
Wrath wrote:
At the risk of getting amazingly toasted by flaming here, but I'd have to say Peter Jackson's Lord of The Rings movies did far more for me than the books ever did, and I read them 4 or five times. I found his vision of them far more compelling and indeed had a more bleak outlook than Tolkiens books.

Wow, another person who thinks this. Personally, I thought the books were TERRIBLE. So bad in fact, that I never bothered to start RotK after finishing tTT. I liked the movies, just avoid watching all three extended editions in a single sitting (my friends and I were yelling at the TV, "JUST GET IN THE G-D BOAT ALREADY!!!1!" by the end of RotK).

The books were written with lot of detail and were intended to mimic the epic style of the Middle Ages and the Renaisance. It isvey draggy in places, and I di enjoy the movies better than the books, but as Medievil scholar, I have great appreciation for what Tolkien was doing.

Urizen (Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Pathfinder Adventure Path, Pathfinder Chronicles, Pathfinder Companion Subscriber),

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Two movies I'm torn upon as I also like the books even if they do diverge in different directions.

I am a fan of Exorcist III, but I also enjoy the novel Legion. Ironically, Blatty not only wrote the novel, but directed the movie.

The Last Temptation of Christ. Enjoy both the movie and the book. A very underrated movie and I prefer it much more than Mel's take... (don't get me started there...)

Daniel Moyer,

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”Chef’s Slaad” wrote:
Batman

I’d argue that the new set of Batman movies isn’t the same timeline being based on “The Dark Knight” storyline. Much like “X-Men”(post-apocalyptic) isn’t the same as “Uncanny X-Men”, so not really a remake.

Speaking of superheroes I didn’t see this one mentioned yet (shockingly)...
The Incredible Hulk(2008) - which whoops the (2003) movie badly. Though personally I’ll stick with the original TV series (1970-80s) and Bill Bixby, over both of them. :)

The Blob(1988) - the original(1958) just had way too much dead space and dialogue for me, example being the 10-15 minute drag race/cop pull-over scene. I liked the (1988) version quite a bit, Shawnee Smith always helps.

War of the Worlds(2005) - I enjoyed this one more than the (1953) version, but I think that might be assisted (in my mind) by how awesome the Scary Movie 4 parody was... "Like men riding dragons, fighting maggots!"

Disagree...
Body Snatchers(1956) - The original was best IMO. The (1978) and (2007) remakes were both pretty awesome in their own right, but not better. The (1993) attempt was crap and probably Forrest Witaker’s worst movie ever, even with Tilly/Anwair nudity this movie was a Fail.

Knoq Nixoy,

Cape Fear, maybe

d13,

Knoq Nixoy wrote:
Cape Fear, maybe

Winner!

I agree. I like the original with Peck and Mitchum, but I'll second the remake as a better movie.

Kirth Gersen (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Modules Subscriber),

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d13 wrote:
Knoq Nixoy wrote:
Cape Fear, maybe

Winner! I agree. I like the original with Peck and Mitchum, but I'll second the remake as a better movie.

But is it really a remake of the original, or just a different adaptation of the classic John D. MacDonald novel? I vote the latter.

Much like the Coen brothers' forthcoming True Grit will supposedly be nothing like the John Wayne movie, but rather will follow the novel a lot more closely. That's a MUCH different situation from Michael Mann's 1992 Last of the Mohicans, which is explicitly based more on the previous movie than on James Fennimore Cooper's book.

Lee Hanna,

Always (1989) > A guy named Joe (1943)

With one major caveat: A guy named Joe has P-38s. I love P-38s.

Tigger_mk4 (Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber),

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Films better than the original books: LA Confidential.

On the remake front....how about :
Excaliber > all the previous (& subsequent) King Arthur adaptations.
Not a perfect movie, but far better than anything else Arthurian I've seen.

Stargate SG1 > Stargate movie.

Star Wars > The Hidden Fortress.

Kirth Gersen (Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Modules Subscriber),

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Tigger_mk4 wrote:
Films better than the original books: LA Confidential.

Loved, loved, LOVED the movie, which I saw first.
But when I finally read the book it just flat out, hands-down blew the movie away.

Osirion Set,

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Daniel Moyer wrote:
War of the Worlds(2005) - I enjoyed this one more than the (1953) version,

Yeah, the actor may be more (in)famous for his personal beliefs, but he did some good work in that movie. I was pretty darn impressed with the scene in the abandoned church with his daughter and the other survivor.

Cheliax David Fryer,

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Set wrote:
Daniel Moyer wrote:
War of the Worlds(2005) - I enjoyed this one more than the (1953) version,

Yeah, the actor may be more (in)famous for his personal beliefs, but he did some good work in that movie.

+1. I particularly enjoyed the scene where Dakota Fanning finds the river and see all the bodies floating in it. Perhaps the best scene to illustrate the adaptable nature of humans though is the scene where the stop to let the flaming train roar down the tracks, nd nobody bats an eye.

Daniel Moyer,

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David Fryer wrote:
I particularly enjoyed the scene where Dakota Fanning finds the river and see all the bodies floating in it. Perhaps the best scene to illustrate the adaptable nature of humans though is the scene where the stop to let the flaming train roar down the tracks, nd nobody bats an eye.

It had a few good, eerie "human nature" scenes in it. Those mentioned above. The fight scene in the rain over the van, the daughter and then the gun. The attempt to board the ferry that get interrupted by that hideous horn. When the people try to save Tom Cruise and the soldier realizes he has a bandolier worth of grenade pins. All good stuff IMO.

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Side Topic: Those of you who are/were interested in The Incredible Hulk series (1970s-80s) with Bill Bixby... How awesome would Willem Dafoe have been as reporter Jack McGee? I think they seriously dropped the ball on that particular character since the (2008) movie was suppose to be more reminiscent of the TV series.

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