Barroom Brawler and Abundant Tactics


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So I already know that the Barroom Brawler feat and the Abundant Tactics advanced weapon training work together, but I was curious if I can have multiple feats from Barroom Brawler active.

For example, if I wanted to get ready to disarm an opponent and I don't have Improved Disarm it would provoke attacks of opportunity. I want to avoid this, so I use Barroom Brawler once as a move action to get Combat Expertise since it's a prerequisite for Improved Disarm, and then I use Barroom Brawler as a move action (replacing my standard) to get Improved Disarm. I then continue to wait until it is my turn to go and disarm my opponent.

I see no reason why this wouldn't work, but Martial Flexibility, a very similar class ability for Brawler, has a text explaining what happens when you use it again while another feat is active.

Martial Flexibility:
The brawler can use this ability again before the duration expires in order to replace the previous combat feat with another choice.

Now I know they're not directly associated, but I'm not sure if Barroom Brawler was supposed to have this same effect if given multiple uses, considering how similar they are. I know it seems like I'm overthinking this and I probably am, but it seems like something worth discussing. Any thoughts?


This should be in the rules section. But anywho, to be completely frank, there's nothing in either of these abilities that says you 'can' or 'cannot' do this, but there is a similar rule from a Class that mimics the feat which says you cannot stack these.

To be fair, if Barroom Brawler was meant to be used in the way you're talking about, it would be included in the "Special" section under the benefit of the feat as being able to use Abundant Tactics to stack combat feats. But because it does have a Special section that says "If you have the martial flexibility class feature, this feat instead grants you one additional use per day of that ability," meaning that this IS meant to almost exactly mimic the Martial Flexibility rules, then I would say no, you cannot stack feats in this way.

Scarab Sages

I would think that it would work like Martial Flexibility, and you wouldn't be able to stack multiple feats. But it's a bit of a grey area. Barroom Brawler likely didn't include a line like that, because the feat only ever grants one use per day. So the base feat alone would never encounter that situation. The only time that it might is if someone has Martial Flexibility, and there is information on how to handle that. Something else is coming in and adding more uses, which isn't a situation the base feat expected to need to account for.

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