1d4-1 Damage

[Symar]

The Quasits in Lost Star deal 1d4-1 damage on their claw attacks. What happens if I roll 1 for a total of 0 damage? Is there a minimum of 1 damage, or do they have a 25% chance at doing nothing?

[Rysky]

Since NonLethal doesn't exist anymore (I believe), I'd say they do no damage. You get an owwie probably, but no discernible damage.

[Starbuck_II]

Nonlethsl exists (fist deal it)

[Fuzzy-Wuzzy]

There is no such thing as nonlethal damage, only a nonlethal attack. And even that only makes a difference if it reduces you to 0 HP (you don't get the dying condition).

[Kerobelis]

I assume 0 as I could not find any comments about weapons always doing at least 1 damage. At least not in the core rule book

[pauljathome]

What about damage LESS than 0 (eg, D4-2)? Logic would certainly imply that the minimum damage is 0 but that should probably be explicitly stated somewhere :-).

[Soldarc]

pauljathome wrote:

What about damage LESS than 0 (eg, D4-2)? Logic would certainly imply that the minimum damage is 0 but that should probably be explicitly stated somewhere :-).

Actually you can slap someone back to life.. if someone is dying just hit them, sinsce it's unleathal damage they get the uncunsious state and returns to 1 hitpoint.. no need for heal spells ;) all acording to Rules as writen hehe

[Grimcleaver]

So the question gets dicier with something like the centipede, which deals 1d4-1 damage also, but if then injects venom. The question is, if you do 0 damage, does the venom set in?

If the interpretation of 0 is a wound, but not enough to deal a full hit point, then I'd argue the venom still takes hold.

I kind of like that, but I would like to get a ruling figured out for it officially.

[Fuzzy-Wuzzy]

Grimcleaver wrote:

So the question gets dicier with something like the centipede, which deals 1d4-1 damage also, but if then injects venom. The question is, if you do 0 damage, does the venom set in?

If the interpretation of 0 is a wound, but not enough to deal a full hit point, then I'd argue the venom still takes hold.

I kind of like that, but I would like to get a ruling figured out for it officially.

This one is dealt with, actually.

playtest rulebook page 294 wrote:

Damage and Enhancements

Some abilities that deal damage have enhancements. These take effect only if you deal at least 1 damage. For instance, if you use a poisoned blade to attack a creature with slashing resistance and the creature takes no damage because of its resistance, it’s not exposed to your poison.

[MerlinCross]

In PF1 I was told that the lowest damage you could do is 1.

I'd probably go with that. Few systems allow for no damage on a roll, it's usually no damage AFTER DR or defense is accounted for.

[Farrindor]

Lacking the guidance PF1 had for the situation, I am going to go with 0 damage, and if that wasn't their intent, they will errata the playtest or wait to change it in the final version (even if it was unintentional, testing the option is a thing).

[Weirdo]

Hope this gets clarified.