Can any golem use armor?


Rules Questions


There´s a plate armored variant of clay golem (+9 AC): can any golem be armored like that (for extra cost, naturally)?


Some (all?) are capable of actually wearing armour, but that's not spelled out anywhere I think. You can also modify Constructs, though that grants a magical enhancement to its AC rather than actual armour.

Personally I'm surprised an armoured Clay Golem exists; it's a specific creature though, and not simply putty put in an iron suit.


I´m thinking about forbidding the armored variant if it´s the only one that can be armored, but it would be nice if there´s an official ruling about this: the armored variant seems quite OP to me


Constructs are not proficient in armor, so a regular clay golem, for instance, will take the ACP to its attack rolls if you stuff it in actual plate. I assume the "armored" clay golem does something clever to get around this.

I note the armored clay golem is from a 2007 publication, so it's unclear to me that it's official Pathfinder material. Certainly Archives of Nethys doesn't seem to bother with it.


The armored clay Golem is not wearing armor. It is made with metal plates (that function like armor, but are not armor) and it has an extraordinary ability that gives it an armor bonus to AC.


Ok, that leads to next question: could this modification be made and the ability given to other golems also?


Dave Justus wrote:
It is made with metal plates

...which kind of negates the essential Golem quality: that they are made from one single material.

It's definitely an odd beast, and probably shouldn't be used to extrapolate information from.


I agree, an odd beast indeed, but if the modification can be done for a clay golem, why not for a bone or iron golem? I´m really thinking about forbidding this one unless someone really explains to me why it can be done to a clay golem but not to others


It is important to note that (according to the copyright info on d20pfsrd) this creature is from the 3.5 edition of Rise of the Runelords. In the PF updated Anniversary edition of RotRL this creature did not appear.

So this is a converted statblock for a 3.5 creature that has not been officially updated to PF.


Java Man wrote:

It is important to note that (according to the copyright info on d20pfsrd) this creature is from the 3.5 edition of Rise of the Runelords. In the PF updated Anniversary edition of RotRL this creature did not appear.

So this is a converted statblock for a 3.5 creature that has not been officially updated to PF.

Thanks, this was the answer I was looking for :)


Even if it was a Pathfinder monster, the ability to give a golem the Armored (EX) ability is never spelled out. A GM can of course always make a custom monster, but their is no method in the rules for a player to make such a custom creature.


If a player can´t make it, then I can´t make it, same rules for everyone :)


Nina Luna wrote:
If a player can´t make it, then I can´t make it, same rules for everyone :)

So you don't use or modify monsters at all? Just NPCs? You can do whatever you want.


Sandal Fury wrote:

So you don't use or modify monsters at all? Just NPCs? You can do whatever you want.

Of course I modify monsters, I just don´t use or allow players to use anything unofficial: for instance official templates are fine


Several things here and this is a home game.
I'd agree that the special golem showed up once and not again. It is enough to say that it is a special construct.

Can constructs wear armor? Sure.
It's within the rules. As Fuzzy pointed out a non proficiency penalty for wearing armor etc.

Can constructs with higher AC be built?
With magic item creation it is a easy step to upgrade the base material to something better or more durable, just a matter of cost and possibly magical research. Don't shut the door on your players. Open the door to magical research.
Hardening spell was useful here and could be an option in the crafting process.


Nina Luna wrote:
If a player can´t make it, then I can´t make it, same rules for everyone :)

While that's nice it isn't true.

Do you earn the experience points for your creatures and characters(NPCs)? Work out the costs and construction times of fortifications? Of course not. GM create stuff all the time that believe to be fair and interesting. GMs are the 'world' so they enjoy a grand largesse that the players do not.
I understand your statement addresses fairness and that you will restrict your use of a few creatures and items in the game. It's good that you want to be fair and reasonable.


Armor makes hot dogs and with a big mug of beer you'd have a Frank 'n Stein.

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