I've been really enjoying Ironfang Invasion, and I reckon we still be starting book 3 around August. I love the idea of switching over to 2e, especially given how much house ruling and unchained content I'm already using. Most of the PCs seem like they will be a breeze to convert, though I'm not sure on the gendarme cavalier yet. The new crafting rules might be great here as well, if it is more accessible.
But there's one big obstacle. This campaign is very low on magic mart access, and is instead very generous with found loot. I think magical item conversion will be one of the hardest parts of the switch, especially with various classic big 6 things gone. But I really like how much cool stuff I get to give players.
If I resume either of my rise of the Runelords games I will almost certainly convert.
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I've converted Shattered Star up to Book 4 for my work playtest, and it's going great. I'm in the process of setting up War for the Crown for my home group.
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I've converted Shattered Star up to Book 4 for my work playtest, and it's going great. I'm in the process of setting up War for the Crown for my home group.
Wow, is there any way you can share the conversion stats for those who'd love to play War for the Crown once the Playtest is out? I'd love to play that AP but I really want to play it using the 2e rules...
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Not sure if I'll convert anything, because there will soon be enough AP material out there already written for 2E and it will be easier and less time consuming to just run those instead of converting old ones.
That said, there are still some APs I would love to run some time in the future, so I'm not ruling out the possibility to convert those. Second Darkness, Giantslayers and Ironfang Invasion as well as the Carrion Crown AP would be candidates for that.
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I'd love to do War of the Crown during the Playtest. Mark, if you're willing to share anything from your conversion once the Playtest is released, that would be amazing! Even if that isn't completely feasible, a fan-led Playtest conversion thread for that one seems like it would be very popular.
I have an ongoing game with a ranger, scald, oracle and gendarme cavalier. I would be keen to change systems as well.
The monsters will be easy enough to convert. And the magic items are already greatly different from the rules, but are actually quite a bit closer to PFe2 from what I can guess. I think converting the characters will be the biggest challenge.
The ranger is obviously a straight port over.
I think the scald will just be a bard with some rage architype type thing.
Oracle will be a sorcerer with the Divine list. I will swap out some of the class features and convert the mystery and curse over somehow.
The crusader can probably take design queues from the fighter and paladin. Definite a bit trickier, but I think pretty achievable.
One of my players has asked me to consider running Kingmaker in PF2. I'm likely to end up running homebrew again but an adventure path would probably be a good idea for sanity and background planning reasons. Might be up for it though, as I hear Kingmaker is fairly sandboxy and edit friendly.
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Wow, is there any way you can share the conversion stats for those who'd love to play War for the Crown once the Playtest is out? I'd love to play that AP but I really want to play it using the 2e rules...
I'd love to do War of the Crown during the Playtest. Mark, if you're willing to share anything from your conversion once the Playtest is released, that would be amazing! Even if that isn't completely feasible, a fan-led Playtest conversion thread for that one seems like it would be very popular.
I'm very likely to convert NPCs and monsters on the fly, as I have been doing in Shattered Star, which won't leave me with any residual writeups to post without significant additional time investment that I won't have to give. But anything I give the PCs, like conversions of the campaign traits as backgrounds, relics, etc, I will probably have a writeup.
Wow, is there any way you can share the conversion stats for those who'd love to play War for the Crown once the Playtest is out? I'd love to play that AP but I really want to play it using the 2e rules...I'm very likely to convert NPCs and monsters on the fly, as I have been doing in Shattered Star, which won't leave me with any residual writeups to post without significant additional time investment that I won't have to give. But anything I give the PCs, like conversions of the campaign traits as backgrounds, relics, etc, I will probably have a writeup.I'd love to do War of the Crown during the Playtest. Mark, if you're willing to share anything from your conversion once the Playtest is released, that would be amazing! Even if that isn't completely feasible, a fan-led Playtest conversion thread for that one seems like it would be very popular.
Ok, well thanks anyways. Anything you write up would be great to have regardless. Question... How hard is it to convert it on the fly? Converting the NPCs and Monsters seems to be the biggest stumbling block for my GM. I'd love to convert asap, but I'd also love to play War for the Crown and Wrath of the Righteous as well. So if we can do both, I'd be over the moon...
Is there any guideline on conversion of treasure / enemy gear?
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Ok, well thanks anyways. Anything you write up would be great to have regardless. Question... How hard is it to convert it on the fly? Converting the NPCs and Monsters seems to be the biggest stumbling block for my GM. I'd love to convert asap, but I'd also love to play War for the Crown and Wrath of the Righteous as well. So if we can do both, I'd be over the moon...Wow, is there any way you can share the conversion stats for those who'd love to play War for the Crown once the Playtest is out? I'd love to play that AP but I really want to play it using the 2e rules...I'm very likely to convert NPCs and monsters on the fly, as I have been doing in Shattered Star, which won't leave me with any residual writeups to post without significant additional time investment that I won't have to give. But anything I give the PCs, like conversions of the campaign traits as backgrounds, relics, etc, I will probably have a writeup.I'd love to do War of the Crown during the Playtest. Mark, if you're willing to share anything from your conversion once the Playtest is released, that would be amazing! Even if that isn't completely feasible, a fan-led Playtest conversion thread for that one seems like it would be very popular.
I've been doing it very easily for Shattered Star, but I know I was abnormally good at that sort of thing even before being hired to work at Paizo, so I'm not going to assume that means anyone can. We also do want the playtest to mostly focus on adversaries from the hundreds that we're releasing in the free pdf (so we can control the variables more and learn if we had a problem monster or other problem element, whereas an encounter with a homebrewed foe lacks perspective from multiple tests), so we're not going to be encouraging homebrewing monsters yet at least for the playtest period.
I've been doing it very easily for Shattered Star, but I know I was abnormally good at that sort of thing even before being hired to work at Paizo, so I'm not going to assume that means anyone can. We also do want the playtest to mostly focus on adversaries from the hundreds that we're releasing in the free pdf (so we can control the variables more and learn if we had a problem monster or other problem element, whereas an encounter with a homebrewed foe lacks perspective from multiple tests), so we're not going to be encouraging homebrewing monsters yet at least for the playtest period.Ok, well thanks anyways. Anything you write up would be great to have regardless. Question... How hard is it to convert it on the fly? Converting the NPCs and Monsters seems to be the biggest stumbling block for my GM. I'd love to convert asap, but I'd also love to play War for the Crown and Wrath of the Righteous as well. So if we can do both, I'd be over the moon...Wow, is there any way you can share the conversion stats for those who'd love to play War for the Crown once the Playtest is out? I'd love to play that AP but I really want to play it using the 2e rules...I'm very likely to convert NPCs and monsters on the fly, as I have been doing in Shattered Star, which won't leave me with any residual writeups to post without significant additional time investment that I won't have to give. But anything I give the PCs, like conversions of the campaign traits as backgrounds, relics, etc, I will probably have a writeup.I'd love to do War of the Crown during the Playtest. Mark, if you're willing to share anything from your conversion once the Playtest is released, that would be amazing! Even if that isn't completely feasible, a fan-led Playtest conversion thread for that one seems like it would be very popular.
Fair enough. Maybe after the Playtest is over... =^D
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My group has never played Rise of the Runelords, so I'll be adapting that after we finish Doomsday Dawn.
We also do want the playtest to mostly focus on adversaries from the hundreds that we're releasing in the free pdf (so we can control the variables more and learn if we had a problem monster or other problem element, whereas an encounter with a homebrewed foe lacks perspective from multiple tests), so we're not going to be encouraging homebrewing monsters yet at least for the playtest period.
Will the playtest still have rules for homebrewing monsters? While I'm more than up for using the new monsters, depending on what my next game is I'll be likely to either port monsters from elsewhere or try and throw new ones together on the spot. It would be nice to be able to understand the logic behind monster design without having to reverse engineer it like I did for 5e (and even there I still don't get the rationale behind some things like HP/HD).
On the other side of the coin from the general consensus here...
After doinking around with the playtest for ten sessions or so I'm going to have to go with none. Absolutely no converting anything to it, ever. PF 2nd isn't my table's cup of tea, especially mine personally as I'm by far the most picky about what I do and don't like in a system. In fact I'm the only one at the table who just outright can't have fun in the game if I think the system is bad <by which I mean I find it to have negative fun value not be poorly designed per se.> Two of the six in my group plan on getting it, as they enjoyed it and plan on playing it with other groups/PFS. Amusingly enough, to me at least, is it's the same two out of the six of us who liked D&D 5th Ed. enough to buy into it.
Pathfinder Society Scenarios, at least for the play test.
I want to see if resonance will change what characters can do in a day, and by how much. I want to see if affects how scenarios are written...
Nothing.
That's not me being mean or something, I cannot convert.
Game 1: Iron Gods. Yeah I can see the game converting. Don't know how you'd convert the Barbarian and Alchemist Archtypes, the Sorcerer Bloodline that might not be in core 2, and the Gunslinger which will not be in Core 2.
Game 2: Mummy's Mask. Again, AP is fine to convert. I have a Warpriest, Slayer, and Cleric with Blossoming Light archetype.
Those are games I'm playing in now but I'll also go over some games I've been a part of or tried to get in.
Game 3: Strange Aeons...., Do you have rules for insanity or haunts in PF2? If you don't I can't do that either and it's one I've been wanting to play or run for awhile now. Not even getting into the classes I saw for that game.
Game 4: Jade Regent... okay where do you even start with this one?
Game 5: Wrath of the Righteous... and that one is right out the window I suppose.
So the APs I'd want to convert don't seem like they'd be possible due to the mechanics/setting of the books OR the PCs. I might do the first part of Skull and Shackles if the playtest already has good ship/water rules.
I had a bad experience converting to a new edition (3rd to 4th Ed), mid-campaign, so now I am wary about damaging the integrity of an ongoing campaign with a new ruleset.
I understand completely.
We've (a local game) converted a long-term game (20+ years at this point) from 2e to 3/3.5e to PF1e. Going from 2e to 3/3.5e went really well as characters had many more options, but converting from 3/3.5e to PF1e wasn't a good move.
Class abilities changed and some character conceptions just didn't come through in-tact. Honestly, I'd rather take that game from PF1e back to 3.5e than try to take it from PF1 to PF2, but that would mess with new characters that have emerged during the PF1 days. Its probably best that our game just stay with PF1.