Dazing metamagic rod scenario


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I have a druid player in my group who has a lesser Dazing metamagic rod. He casts aqeous orb the first round and the second round he uses his wild shape to attack with his standard action (single attack) then uses his move action to control the orb. My question is, is the orb that he's controlling under the "Dazing" power of the rod still?


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Yes. He cast Dazing Aqueous Orb, so the orb he gets is dazing. Metamagic doesn't wear off. He doesn't even need to keep the rod around; it could get broken and the orb would still be dazing. Only the moment of casting determines what metamagic is on a spell.


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Atalius wrote:
Good to hear from you Fuzzy. Been awhile.

I come and go like a thief in the night! All mysterious and stuff.


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If they pass the reflex save to take no non-lethal, they aren't dazed. Aqueous orb does not allow for a user friendly exception, so he needs to make a relex save as well or be subject to the damage and dazed. Anything immune to non-lethal including undead will also not be subject to the dazing. The second save for large or smaller creatures does not include damage and therefore does not cause dazed on a failure. They do take damage at the start of each turn while engulfed, this does daze and includes a reflex to stop it so there is no will save against the dazing. If he himself becomes engulfed, he is also treated as entangled and takes the same penalties to attacks as anyone else inside.

Fun trick, probably one of the best uses of a dazing rod I've seen.

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