Conscious with Stamina and no HP?


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Scarab Sages

So this is a question that has come close to popping up from time to time in our games, and that is: are you conscious if you have Stamina but 0 HP? Situation usually goes like this:

1)Victim is low on stamina but not into HP yet.
2)Multiple enemies beat the everloving crap out of them with lucky rolls, reducing him to 0 HP.
3)Envoy uses inspiring boost to let victim recover stamina after enemies have gone.

Liberty's Edge

See page 250. It covers your question.

You are unconscious at zero hp.


Can an unconscious character hear the inspiring boost to be affected by it?


I'd say no.

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whew wrote:
Can an unconscious character hear the inspiring boost to be affected by it?

I would also say no. The perception rules state that you can't notice anything if you aren't conscious.

Perception (Notice) wrote:

You can use Perception to notice things happening around you. This is the most basic task of the Perception skill. It can be used for a variety of reasons determined by the GM. You might attempt a Perception check to see if you can act in a surprise round, to spot something important out of the corner of your eye, or to realize there are hidden creatures nearby (though you can’t notice a creature that is invisible unless it makes itself known). A Perception check to notice usually does not involve taking an action, though you must be conscious [emphasis added] and have the use of at least some of your senses to do so. The GM determines the DC. You cannot take 20 on a Perception check to notice things.

The DCs for Perception checks to notice things are determined by the GM based on the circumstances and may be adjusted to reflect other conditions. See the search task below for a chart with some example circumstances and their typical DCs.

However, it is a trope that unconscious people can hear their friends and enemies. So, there may be an argument for a house rule on unconscious characters.

Scarab Sages

whew wrote:
Can an unconscious character hear the inspiring boost to be affected by it?

. What if you are a half orc and tenaciously stay standing long enough to hear those inspiring words?

Liberty's Edge

The half orc racial trait allows the character to remain conscience so yes. But when it is up he will be at 0 HP and on the ground.


I was actually just about to ask how one would have positive stamina and 0 or less HP, and I guess the answer is "envoy stamina healing". This is kind of a corner case, although possible relatively common...

Regardless, the answer is the person remains unconscious.

Perhaps there is a need to add a rule that Stamina cannot be healed unless HP is greater than 0.


Some game systems with dual health tracks have critical hits take from HP, while normal attacks take first from Stamina. If Starfinder ever has effects that take away hit points directly, it could also come into play.

(probably a smart move to have Constitution affect Stamina, not Hit Points, so Con drain or damage doesn't do a pile of lethal damage to a character).


Ummm... Con does effect stamina, and not HP...


Pantshandshake wrote:
Ummm... Con does effect stamina, and not HP...

Yeah, that's what I said. It was a smart move.


Ah, I misunderstood. I thought you were saying that it would have been a good idea for Con to affect Stamina, because it currently went to HP. My apologies.


Pantshandshake wrote:
Ah, I misunderstood. I thought you were saying that it would have been a good idea for Con to affect Stamina, because it currently went to HP. My apologies.

Back when I was playing 3.5E, we had situations where someone would take Con damage and then fall over dead because they were high enough level where they lost more hit points from losing Constitution than they had left. And then of course there was the Barbarian situation, where they would need to get healing before going out of rage or they would die.

Starfinder got rid of temporary stat increases, and Con damage will no longer be lethal, since it just affects Stamina now. Good design, there.


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Dracomicron wrote:

Starfinder got rid of temporary stat increases, and Con damage will no longer be lethal, since it just affects Stamina now. Good design, there.

Constitution damage still kills you if it ever equals your Constitution score, mind you. Says so on page 252 of the Core Rulebook.


Ravingdork wrote:
Dracomicron wrote:

Starfinder got rid of temporary stat increases, and Con damage will no longer be lethal, since it just affects Stamina now. Good design, there.

Constitution damage still kills you if it ever equals your Constitution score, mind you. Says so on page 252 of the Core Rulebook.

Er yeah, brain fart on my end. I meant that "Losing Stamina from loss of Constitution will no longer drop you to unconscious/dying."

But losing all your Con will still drop you to stone dead... one good reason to put your extra stat point into Con.

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