[PaizoCon 2018] Bestiary Bash inquiry


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I haven't seen a post yet from the event organizer. I was hoping to get details on the rules
1) What sources are allowed? Bestiary 1-6? What about classes? Only core? APG? ACG?
2) Are the monsters reset each round or do we continue as if we just had finished the last battle?

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Unfortunately that feature isn't working at the moment. I will ping the event organizer and let him know about your thread.


telechus wrote:

I haven't seen a post yet from the event organizer. I was hoping to get details on the rules

1) What sources are allowed? Bestiary 1-6? What about classes? Only core? APG? ACG?
2) Are the monsters reset each round or do we continue as if we just had finished the last battle?

Apologies Telechus, I hadn't seen your post.

Thanks for the ping Sara.

I just posted in the event thread. It showed, but when I double check my posts/profiles it is not there. So as not to duplicate threads I will keep this short. (let me know if you can see the other thread please).

1) Bestiary 1-6 (some monster types are not allowed). Most base classes (ACG & Kineticists not allowed).
2) Between matches you will restart as if it is a new day. During matches only class abilities rejuvenate and then only upon death.

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Events are not letting people start discussion threads :(


Not too worry, I learned long ago to cut & paste long posts. :)Would it be possible to add a link to this thread in the event description?

Tertcamballa looked across the arena and smiled. The variety of skin, scales, and fur on its occupants pleased her. Her feasts have not offered this many appetizers in a very long, long time. Drumsticks, shanks, wings, chops, ribs, tentacles and she could almost taste them all. The white meat, dark meat, green meat and the other white meat caused her mouth to water, a pool that soon ran between her fangs to land on the floor with an acidic sizzle.

RACE: From the Pathfinder Bestiaries 1-6 choose a monster with a CR equal to 4, 5 or 6. Undead, elementals, golems, plants and dragons are not allowed. Their abilities are unbalanced in single encounters. Please bring the source especially if it is from the later books. Templates likewise do not balance very well.

Her copper eyes scanned the crowd for weapons, their wielders would be easy enough to outmaneuver. She then scanned for the unarmored, their flesh would be easy enough to chomp. Then she looked for the symbols of gods, their owners promised an attrition battle.

CLASS: Choose a base class from the Pathfinder hardbacks with a level of 6, 5, or 4 adding a level & CR equal to 10. The ACG, kineticist, Golarian specific stuff are not allowed. Their balance with monsters tends to be too easily exploitable. Archetypes from these books are also fine. Controlling the Blood Copper Crown is a spatial game, keep this in mind when building.

Her forked tongue flicked briefly in the air before returning to her mouth. She nodded, that hairy thing with the spellbook, was a definitely a troll-kin of some sort.

ABILITIES & FEATS: Keep it simple. Use the numbers from the monster’s stats. However if you need to raise an ability by 2 to qualify for spell casting drop your Con by 4. Don’t forget the additional point at level 4. Monster (race) feats should be the same as well, but if the creature stat has a general or combat feat (such as two-weapon fighting) and you want to trade it for another general feat (such as point-blank shot) that is OK. Please limit feats to the same books as the Classes, and the Bestiary.

Metal scraped on metal, sending the nearly silent scream ringing across the arena. She loved that sound, and closed her eyes to more fully enjoy all the blades being drawn from scabbards and shields sliding across mail.

EQUIPMENT: Equip yourself with whichever +1 light or medium armor you wish. Arm yourself with a +1 weapon if you wish or give one natural attack a +1 magical bonus. Weapons will not be made of special materials (such as silver weapons)

The emerald scales may blend in with the foliage, but Tertcamballa saw one of the creatures turn its head toward and her knew she had been marked. She bared her fangs in another smile, just to let him know she saw him see her.

SKILLS: Some skills will have more use than others. Knowledge skills might give something away about your opponent, and Perception may counter their Stealth. Ending the hurt isn't a bad idea either, but don't expect Diplomacy or Craft to have much pay off. Do not fret too much about getting skills 'right'.

Between matches, racial and class abilities will rejuvenate. During the match only the class abilities will.

Her tail unfurled spinning the copper covered plank into the air. It landed a short distance away, bounced into the air and remained there. Two wooden pieces unfolded and energy began to course along the copper inlays. It began to spin gently in the air between her and her first opponent.

NEW: I am adding a Motion Totem this year. Each player will get a totem to control which will affect your opponent's movement. Also the Blood Copper Crown causes a Bleed variant damage instead of healing its controller (hence the Heal hint above).

I am sure there will be questions, please ask :).

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Curaigh wrote:

Not too worry, I learned long ago to cut & paste long posts. :)Would it be possible to add a link to this thread in the event description?

Unfortunately the issue is that the events don't even have a thread id number generated so I can't link them manually.


Thanks for the info! I just had a few clarification questions.

1. Are Unchained classes allowed?

2. What about monsters with Mythic ranks? (Not really considering one, but I figured it would be good to know.)


PhibbyRizo wrote:

Thanks for the info! I just had a few clarification questions.

1. Are Unchained classes allowed?

2. What about monsters with Mythic ranks? (Not really considering one, but I figured it would be good to know.)

1. Sure, given the one time tourney of this event Unchained probably has a better learning curve.

2. Negative on mythic inclusion. Mythic falls into the 'all or none' category, so we go with none for balance reasons. :)


1) What is the environment of the arena? Is it a featureless room with a floor? What are the dimensions?
2) How far apart do the combatants start?
3) For monsters whose CR does not match its HD (like the Redcap, CR 6 vs HD 8), do we still just add the class levels so that the sum of levels and CR is 10?


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My son and I showed up to the Bestiary Bash (our first one) and found it was ready to be canceled as Curaigh was not able to be there. (I hope everything is okay with him?...)

But in a show of Paizonian spirit everyone decided to forge ahead with a modified four monster per arena combat that was a total blast!

Thanks again to everyone who stayed and Thunderdome’d it out!

(I got my head handed to me, but my son ended up competing in the 1 on 1 final match where he triumphed on dueling d20 rolls when he and his honorable competitor realized their combat would take at least the rest of the day to complete...)

Lots of fun, and my son is already talking about coming back to compete again next year....


I was just coming in to offer my apologies again. Please enjoy the prizes (and thanks to Motteditor and my local folks for delivering them! in true Paizonian spirit :)

I am SO glad you played on!

And I am happy to hear that you and your son had a good time. :) I am interested how the four per arena worked out. I have run free-for-all mass combats with this, but it is never fun for the folks who drop too early. 4 per combat sounds fun though! :)

Again my sincerest apologies. (I am fine thank you-just a scheduling issue.)


Glad to hear you are all good Curaigh!

As I said, I’ve never done the one on one before, but the 4 monster melee was great.

If I had gone 1 to 1 with a couple of people at my table I would’ve been out quick, but with 4 different competitors there were shifting tides that let me actually compete and get some hits in before getting knocked out.

Everyone at our table seemed to enjoy the 4 monster Thunderdome too....

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I was so thrilled that you guys decided to play on, and sorry that I'd ended up with other things I'd scheduled so couldn't stay to watch or help.

I ran into the Earl of Sandwich and his son as they were leaving post-battle, and they seemed happy (as did a few others from the room who I spoke with later). The 4-way thunderdome sounded like a lot of fun and might be worth considering moving forward.

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