Why buy the Playtest?


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Not trying to be a Debbie Downer, but I'm concerned that if I buy the Playtest, it'll just end up being a waste of money when the actual 2E Core Rulebook comes out and I have to buy that as well. Are my concerns without warrant? Will the Playtest book receive errata to bring it in line with the finished Core Rulebook?


delroland wrote:
Not trying to be a Debbie Downer, but I'm concerned that if I buy the Playtest, it'll just end up being a waste of money when the actual 2E Core Rulebook comes out and I have to buy that as well. Are my concerns without warrant? Will the Playtest book receive errata to bring it in line with the finished Core Rulebook?

I find this highly unlikely. It seems the playtest rulebook is for:

a) Collectors
b) People that would rather have a print edition for a variety of reasons.

I mean, I expect the playtest to have iterations as the feedback starts to come through and those sure as heck won't get printed too.

Liberty's Edge

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It will not.

On the other hand, the PDF will be free, so if you're having any internal conflicts, then don't buy the playtest book and just use the PDF.


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Some people like paper copies - Paizo calculated that they can sell the book cheaper than it would cost for a playtester to print out the pdf at a Kinko's.

And some people want it as a collectible.

If you don't fall into one of those two categories, you probably won't want to order a copy.

Grand Lodge

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I still have my Pathfinder Beta softcover.


TriOmegaZero wrote:
I still have my Pathfinder Beta softcover.

Likewise, some people just like having those kinds of things. Also it's nice to be to have a solid and unchanging source so you can look back and see the changes that have been made since.


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Because I think it's nifty and I want to see a copy on my bookshelf.

If you're concerned about the price, then just download the free PDF.

The Exchange

For ease of reference, to keep as a collectible, not wanting to scroll through the PDF looking up every obscure rule. Cheaper than printing 400 pages on my inkjet.


delroland wrote:
it'll just end up being a waste of money when the actual 2E Core Rulebook comes out and I have to buy that as well.

The point of the playtest isn't to have it long-term. It's to assist in making the actual release as good as it can possibly be. If having a physical book makes that process easier for you, buy one. If not, don't.

If you're looking at this as a preview or spoilers, that's not what this is for.

Scarab Sages Starfinder Design Lead

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As a game designer in this game space, I personally find it useful to have both pdf and print copies of as many games descended from 3e as possible.

As a player, I prefer a print book at the game table and I hope to get a lot of gaming in with this one, even if it's just for a year.

But if you don't think you'll get enough utility out of a print copy of the playtest, by all means just grab the pdf! :)

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
delroland wrote:
Not trying to be a Debbie Downer, but I'm concerned that if I buy the Playtest, it'll just end up being a waste of money when the actual 2E Core Rulebook comes out and I have to buy that as well. Are my concerns without warrant? Will the Playtest book receive errata to bring it in line with the finished Core Rulebook?

2 reasons for me

1st is i like books and i am a collector.

2nd we will have the rules for a year , if i am going to run or play it i prefer a book over a pdf

Jon Brazer Enterprises

delroland wrote:
I'm concerned that if I buy the Playtest, it'll just end up being a waste of money when the actual 2E Core Rulebook comes out

You're not wrong. However, I still have my Pathfinder 1e playtest. It's a want not a need.


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I just like a book in my hands. I guess I'm old.


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It's a collector's edition thing, a curiosity for one's shelf. It's like asking why buy this goblin bank- it's not primarily about utility.


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I figure if you ask the question, it's probably better not to buy it and use the free PDF.


People have claimed that Pathfinder Beta is superior in some aspects when compared with Pathfinder. For that subset of gamers, the print book is a godsend.


Starfinder Charter Superscriber

Why buy the Playtest books? Well, in my case it's probably a case of having more money than sense, as I bought enough to have several to pass around, as well as the collector's edition for sitting on the shelf...

But yeah, sometimes it handy to have a physical copy, and sometimes you just want a collector's item, to sit on the shelf and remind you of how you got to be a part of gaming history.


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I've mostly preordered it because it's cheap. I mean, I'll pay like 23€ for it and have fun with it for months. Watching a movie in cinema with my wife is at least as expensive and lasts for about two hours.

Think of the playtest as going out to watch a movie to have a good time and check if you like it. If you do, you buy the Blu-Ray of the movie some time later, basically paying again for the same thing.

Compared to a movie, the playtest also has the advantage of being able to get it online for free (and legal) and you can actually be a part of shaping the final product into something you enjoy even more by giving feedback.


Pathfinder Maps Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Two reasons:
- I plan to run a few playtest sessions with my players here in France, and I find it easier to use a physical book than having my computer open all the time.
- I also plan to start a homebrew campaign based on the PF2.0 rules and play it all year, while waiting for the appearance in August 2019 of the final version. Although I'm sure many things will change from the playtest to the final version of PF2.0, I'm also pretty confident that we'll be able to convert characters from the playtest version to the final version.

I've also heard that a Sandpoint book or box will be appearing soon, and I want to get back to a rural/wilderness campaign setting divorced to some degree from the eternal dungeon crawl.

Liberty's Edge

delroland wrote:
Not trying to be a Debbie Downer, but I'm concerned that if I buy the Playtest, it'll just end up being a waste of money when the actual 2E Core Rulebook comes out and I have to buy that as well. Are my concerns without warrant? Will the Playtest book receive errata to bring it in line with the finished Core Rulebook?

It ABSOLUTELY will be a waste of money... unless you're a collector.

The playtest books are useful for the months of August to December, while the playtest runs. After that, they're unfinished rules that were likely purposely funky to test people's opinions on mechanics.

From 2019 onward, the playtest rules are a fun conversation piece and neat collectible for the shelf.

IF you are able to playtest, I recommend the softcover (or the free PDF sent to lightningsource.com and printed as a black-and-white coil-bound you can beat to hell). Get your money's worth, give your feedback, and then recycle the book.

IF you want something more hardy or want to support Paizo but can't playtest during the window I'd suggest the leatherette hardcover. Because if you're going to have a limited run book just sitting on a shelf it might as well be a rarer collector's edition.


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I'm buying it through a local gaming store as a way of supporting the store (not my clever idea but something suggested to me).


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Why buy the Playtest? Simple.

1) To support Paizo.
2) To have hard copies of books.

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