paizo.com Recent Posts in First Edition Boons in Second Edition Pathfinder Societypaizo.com Recent Posts in First Edition Boons in Second Edition Pathfinder Society2018-11-16T00:09:57Z2018-11-16T00:09:57ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society Playtest: First Edition Boons in Second Edition Pathfinder SocietyTonya Woldridgehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v0lu&page=3?First-Edition-Boons-in-Second-Edition#1492018-11-16T00:10:26Z2018-11-16T00:10:26Z<p>Locking this thread.</p>
<p>Commentary is moved to the blog discussing <a href="https://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo6sgdh?Pathfinder-Society-2-GM-Stars-Replay-and-Boon" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"> Boon Converstion Update</a></p>Locking this thread.
Commentary is moved to the blog discussing Boon Converstion UpdateTonya Woldridge2018-11-16T00:10:26ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society Playtest: First Edition Boons in Second Edition Pathfinder SocietyFelix Gaunthttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v0lu&page=3?First-Edition-Boons-in-Second-Edition#1462018-09-29T17:27:05Z2018-09-29T17:27:05Z<p>Hmmm, has there been any update on this? I've seen a precipitous drop-off of interest once 2.0 was announced. I think if we had a firm grasp of what would carry from 1.0 to 2.0 (in this case boons) it would probably help keep 1.0 going while we transition to 2.0. Given a vacuum people just assume the worst.</p>Hmmm, has there been any update on this? I've seen a precipitous drop-off of interest once 2.0 was announced. I think if we had a firm grasp of what would carry from 1.0 to 2.0 (in this case boons) it would probably help keep 1.0 going while we transition to 2.0. Given a vacuum people just assume the worst.Felix Gaunt2018-09-29T17:27:05ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society Playtest: First Edition Boons in Second Edition Pathfinder Societythistledownhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v0lu&page=3?First-Edition-Boons-in-Second-Edition#1452018-07-24T15:07:50Z2018-07-24T15:07:50Z<p>I managed to snag a rebuild boon, but I've been sitting on it since April waiting for the Potions & Poisons book to get legalized.</p>I managed to snag a rebuild boon, but I've been sitting on it since April waiting for the Potions & Poisons book to get legalized.thistledown2018-07-24T15:07:50ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society Playtest: First Edition Boons in Second Edition Pathfinder SocietyGM_Starson (alias of Matthais777)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v0lu&page=3?First-Edition-Boons-in-Second-Edition#1442018-07-23T20:30:29Z2018-07-23T20:30:29Z<p>Throwing my two cents in, but I think it'd be great to have something like the Xenophile that I can "Mulch" what are to me worthless boons that I'm never going to use, especially with now limited (still big, but limited) amount of plays to play around with character concepts. Now, I'd like to be able to mulch a bunch of worthless boons into something interesting for 2e, like say 5 or so whatever boons for a race boon in 2e, but even if it was just mulching 2 or 3 for a regular boon in 2e I'd bee fine.</p>Throwing my two cents in, but I think it'd be great to have something like the Xenophile that I can "Mulch" what are to me worthless boons that I'm never going to use, especially with now limited (still big, but limited) amount of plays to play around with character concepts. Now, I'd like to be able to mulch a bunch of worthless boons into something interesting for 2e, like say 5 or so whatever boons for a race boon in 2e, but even if it was just mulching 2 or 3 for a regular boon in 2e I'd...GM_Starson (alias of Matthais777)2018-07-23T20:30:29ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society Playtest: First Edition Boons in Second Edition Pathfinder SocietyHmmhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v0lu&page=3?First-Edition-Boons-in-Second-Edition#1432018-05-05T17:40:42Z2018-05-05T17:40:42Z<p>^ You’re right. That would be awesome!</p>^ You’re right. That would be awesome!Hmm2018-05-05T17:40:42ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society Playtest: First Edition Boons in Second Edition Pathfinder SocietyUpaynaohttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v0lu&page=3?First-Edition-Boons-in-Second-Edition#1422018-05-17T04:55:47Z2018-05-05T17:32:35Z<p>One boon I would like to see make an appearance is a complete rebuild boon. I have at least one (possibly two) characters that I started before realizing that they are not only mechanically bad, but are also offensive in some manner. And retraining will only get me a new class; I will be stuck with the statistics I have.</p>
<p>With dwindling play opportunities, being allowed to go "You know what? That was a terrible idea. Let me not waste those chronicle sheets" would be super awesome.</p>One boon I would like to see make an appearance is a complete rebuild boon. I have at least one (possibly two) characters that I started before realizing that they are not only mechanically bad, but are also offensive in some manner. And retraining will only get me a new class; I will be stuck with the statistics I have.
With dwindling play opportunities, being allowed to go "You know what? That was a terrible idea. Let me not waste those chronicle sheets" would be super awesome.Upaynao2018-05-05T17:32:35ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society Playtest: First Edition Boons in Second Edition Pathfinder SocietyHmmhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v0lu&page=3?First-Edition-Boons-in-Second-Edition#1412018-05-06T18:25:15Z2018-05-05T14:39:25Z<p>Back to boons... I’ve basically started giving them away left and right. I want them to see use, and they’re doing no good to anyone stuck in my folder. </p>
<p>Of all the solutions proposed, I like the idea of boon trade-in best where you can trade in 1E GM Race boons to get whatever the current race boon is in 2E, because that will keep GMs motivated in the transition.</p>
<p>I also hope that most boons going forward have a 2E option on them, once Organized Play Leadership has a better idea of what races will be coming out in the bestiaries of the Second Edition.</p>
<p>Hmm</p>Back to boons... I’ve basically started giving them away left and right. I want them to see use, and they’re doing no good to anyone stuck in my folder.
Of all the solutions proposed, I like the idea of boon trade-in best where you can trade in 1E GM Race boons to get whatever the current race boon is in 2E, because that will keep GMs motivated in the transition.
I also hope that most boons going forward have a 2E option on them, once Organized Play Leadership has a better idea of what...Hmm2018-05-05T14:39:25ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society Playtest: First Edition Boons in Second Edition Pathfinder SocietyHmmhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v0lu&page=3?First-Edition-Boons-in-Second-Edition#1402018-05-06T21:56:26Z2018-05-05T14:22:04Z<p>Let’s avoid terms like ‘disingenuous’ — they imply hurtful judgments about the motivations of other posters. Let’s acknowledge that aasimars & tieflings are races that inspire a diversity of opinion. I was not part of the campaign when they decided to ban aasimars and tieflings. I literally joined one week after they retired, and boy did I feel left out! However, from my poking around in old discussions in these forums, I believe that the banning of Aasimars and Tieflings happened because of GM whining <i>everywhere</i>. The complaints weren’t limited to the Aquatic VO Forums, but <i>also</i> happened right here in PFS General Discussion. I love this community, but we can’t deny that complaints and dismay form a large part of our discourse here!</p>
<p>Otherwise, I think your analysis is spot on, Tim. As a campaign, we over-reacted and our solution to ban aasimars and tieflings caused more problems than it solved.</p>
<div class="messageboard-quotee">TimD wrote:</div><blockquote> The echoes of that decision and the even more poorly implemented decision to penalize GMs with APG Summoners will probably haunt this campaign for years to come as trust was damaged in both directions by both decisions, so I applaud Paizo staff for their transparency on this rather than leaving it to the <i>Bog of <s>Etern-</s> VO Opinions</i> to determine. </blockquote><p>I also applaud Paizo Staff’s current transparency.
<p><span class=messageboard-ooc>And while I snorted at the description of the Bog of Eternal VO Opinions, really, I don’t think it’s breaking NDA to say that the Aquatic Forums have been downright pleasant this past year and a half. Recent discussion has been thoughtful and cordial. We’ve had an ecological reversal from our toxic origins, Tim!</span></p>
<p>Hmm</p>Let’s avoid terms like ‘disingenuous’ — they imply hurtful judgments about the motivations of other posters. Let’s acknowledge that aasimars & tieflings are races that inspire a diversity of opinion. I was not part of the campaign when they decided to ban aasimars and tieflings. I literally joined one week after they retired, and boy did I feel left out! However, from my poking around in old discussions in these forums, I believe that the banning of Aasimars and Tieflings happened because of...Hmm2018-05-05T14:22:04ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society Playtest: First Edition Boons in Second Edition Pathfinder SocietyTimDhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v0lu&page=3?First-Edition-Boons-in-Second-Edition#1392018-04-23T21:18:22Z2018-04-23T21:01:20Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Bob Jonquet wrote:</div><blockquote>This was apparent when they went back into retirement and there was a concerted effort by a particularly large amount of the community to make special schedules and "speed runs" in order to lock in more assimar. No other race that has been introduced has seen this type of activity. </blockquote><p>Disingenuous at best:
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A) Paizo staff <b>supported</b> trying to lock a few races that were about to be forcibly retired due to closet whining on a VO-only board whose toxicity is legendary even if the details discussed there are protected by NDA.
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B) "Speed runs" were about as widespread as that pandemic of edited photocopies and people being mugged for their chronicle sheets in parking lots. In a campaign of tens of thousands, it's unlike the number of people who managed to organize "speed runs" numbered in the dozens. <span class=messageboard-ooc>EDIT: I'm sorry, hundreds of thousands, not tens of thousands.</span>
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C) <b>Of course</b> no other race has seen that type of activity - no other race has been legalized and then removed.</p>
<p>The echoes of that decision and the even more poorly implemented decision to penalize GMs with APG Summoners will probably haunt this campaign for years to come as trust was damaged in both directions by both decisions, so I applaud Paizo staff for their transparency on this rather than leaving it to the <i>Bog of <s>Etern-</s> VO Opinions</i> to determine.</p>Bob Jonquet wrote:This was apparent when they went back into retirement and there was a concerted effort by a particularly large amount of the community to make special schedules and "speed runs" in order to lock in more assimar. No other race that has been introduced has seen this type of activity.
Disingenuous at best:
A) Paizo staff supported trying to lock a few races that were about to be forcibly retired due to closet whining on a VO-only board whose toxicity is legendary even if the...TimD2018-04-23T21:01:20ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society Playtest: First Edition Boons in Second Edition Pathfinder SocietyRichard D Webbhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v0lu&page=3?First-Edition-Boons-in-Second-Edition#1382018-04-22T06:06:44Z2018-04-21T14:32:59Z<p>I prefer option number 1 and not having first edition PFS boons transfer to second edition PFS characters.</p>I prefer option number 1 and not having first edition PFS boons transfer to second edition PFS characters.Richard D Webb2018-04-21T14:32:59ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society Playtest: First Edition Boons in Second Edition Pathfinder SocietyTash Thon (alias of Ted Easterly)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v0lu&page=3?First-Edition-Boons-in-Second-Edition#1372018-04-21T01:58:30Z2018-04-21T01:58:30Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Joe Bouchard wrote:</div><blockquote>Now if we're done casting <a href="http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/coreRulebook/spells/reincarnate.html#reincarnate" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Reincarnate</a> on this poor dead horse, constantly bringing it back as some unspeakable horror with a babble aura, let's stop hijacking this damn thread. </blockquote><p>Not until the GM rolls Flailsnail!
<p>Vengeance for the oft-bludgeoned beasts of the wild!</p>Joe Bouchard wrote:Now if we're done casting Reincarnate on this poor dead horse, constantly bringing it back as some unspeakable horror with a babble aura, let's stop hijacking this damn thread.
Not until the GM rolls Flailsnail! Vengeance for the oft-bludgeoned beasts of the wild!Tash Thon (alias of Ted Easterly)2018-04-21T01:58:30ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society Playtest: First Edition Boons in Second Edition Pathfinder SocietyJDDyslexiahttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v0lu&page=3?First-Edition-Boons-in-Second-Edition#1362018-04-19T17:39:22Z2018-04-19T17:39:22Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Joe Bouchard wrote:</div><blockquote>I didn't bite Tallow's head off over the concept of convention prioritization, but over the fact that his argument was that this is the SOLE contribution to why people don't go to conventions, and he boiled down any other factor (cost, family, accessibility) to prioritization. I find this to be simplistic and somewhat insulting to people who don't have the ability to overcome circumstances besides "I rather do something else".</blockquote><div class="messageboard-quotee">Tallow wrote:</div><blockquote>This is exactly where you are putting words into my mouth...</blockquote><p>Oh am I?
<div class="messageboard-quotee">Tallow wrote:</div><blockquote><p>Regardless of whether the option of doing something is an illusion of choice or not, the fact is, its all about what your personal priority tree is.</p>
<p>if someone really, really wants to do something, they find a way to make it a priority and find a way to do it.</p>
<p>But suffice to say, that its all about priorities</p>
<p>Why is it so negative to say that someone not attending (being able to attend) a convention is about how they prioritize their life.</blockquote><p>I guess I lodged them in there so well that you just kept rolling with it then.
<div class="messageboard-quotee">Joe Bouchard wrote:</div><blockquote>I'm not going to agree with that, and he's not going to see things the way I do. So let's leave that dead horse in the ground and be done with it.</blockquote><p>Now if we're done casting <a href="http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/coreRulebook/spells/reincarnate.html#reincarnate" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Reincarnate</a> on this poor dead horse, constantly bringing it back as some unspeakable horror with a babble aura, let's stop hijacking this damn thread.Joe Bouchard wrote:I didn't bite Tallow's head off over the concept of convention prioritization, but over the fact that his argument was that this is the SOLE contribution to why people don't go to conventions, and he boiled down any other factor (cost, family, accessibility) to prioritization. I find this to be simplistic and somewhat insulting to people who don't have the ability to overcome circumstances besides "I rather do something else".
Tallow wrote:This is exactly where you are...JDDyslexia2018-04-19T17:39:22ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society Playtest: First Edition Boons in Second Edition Pathfinder SocietyMrBearhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v0lu&page=3?First-Edition-Boons-in-Second-Edition#1352018-04-19T16:32:19Z2018-04-19T16:32:19Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Joe Bouchard wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Gregory Rebelo wrote:</div><blockquote><p>Hey, I still want to run the damn thing! </p>
<p>:) </blockquote>Well, the other 5-star GM already offered 3 or so tables at my store, so I think you'll have to do it at yours. :) </blockquote><p>I'm absolutely certain the reason the tables didn't fire have nothing to do with any lack of desire to play them...Joe Bouchard wrote:Gregory Rebelo wrote:Hey, I still want to run the damn thing!
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Well, the other 5-star GM already offered 3 or so tables at my store, so I think you'll have to do it at yours. :) I'm absolutely certain the reason the tables didn't fire have nothing to do with any lack of desire to play them...MrBear2018-04-19T16:32:19ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society Playtest: First Edition Boons in Second Edition Pathfinder SocietyTallow (alias of Andrew Christian)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v0lu&page=3?First-Edition-Boons-in-Second-Edition#1342018-04-19T15:44:51Z2018-04-19T15:44:51Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Joe Bouchard wrote:</div><blockquote><p> ...but over the fact that his argument was that this is the SOLE contribution to why people don't go to conventions, and he boiled down any other factor (cost, family, accessibility) to prioritization. I find this to be simplistic and somewhat insulting to people who don't have the ability to overcome circumstances besides "I rather do something else".
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</blockquote><p>This is exactly where you are putting words into my mouth. Perhaps the word "prioritize" is charged for you? Or has some sort of negative connotation? I know that there is a running joke amongst my geek friends of "Come on! Why are you going to see your baby be born, come game with us, get your priorities straight!" Perhaps that is similar in your community and thus the word priority has taken on a negative meaning?
<p>Regardless of whether the option of doing something is an illusion of choice or not, the fact is, its all about what your personal priority tree is. For most people, family, health, work, etc. all have a higher priority than gaming. And it should in most circumstances. But I've found, over, and over, and over, that if someone really, really wants to do something, they find a way to make it a priority and find a way to do it. Sure, there are always those people who feel hopeless or helpless in trying to make something happen.</p>
<p>I'm not going to get into the psychology of societal expectations and requirements that beat people into that feeling. That's a major digression we don't need to get into. But suffice to say, that its all about priorities. That's how everyone lives every moment of their life. What is your priority right now?</p>
<p>The point being, no organization can thrive on trying to accommodate every single stricture of every single persons priority tree. As an organizer of your store as a Venture Agent, you have a game day on a particular night I assume? It starts at a particular time I assume? What about all the people who can't show up to your game because they work second shift? Or the people who can't show up to your game because they work retail and work on Saturdays (assuming a game day on a Saturday)? No, you create a game that is convenient for you and the store that you organize through/for and possibly (hopefully?) you make sure your convenience matches the majority of people who show up to that game.</p>
<p>You prioritize your time to organize for that store on that given day during those given timeframes. The store prioritizes that time window for you to have one or more tables to organize a game at their store. The GMs prioritize their time throughout the week to prepare a scenario, possibly finances to purchase said scenario (or time to pick it up from you), and then prioritize that evening to run a game at the store you (and the store) has prioritized for the community. The players all prioritize their time to show up to the store at that given day and time to play.</p>
<p>Why is the priority tree any different for conventions? Why is it so negative to say that someone not attending (being able to attend) a convention is about how they prioritize their life?</p>
<p>Because that's exactly what is happening.</p>
<p>It may be an <i>illusion of choice</i> where they really don't (or don't feel they) have a choice. But it doesn't change the fact that this is how they've prioritized things.</p>Joe Bouchard wrote:...but over the fact that his argument was that this is the SOLE contribution to why people don't go to conventions, and he boiled down any other factor (cost, family, accessibility) to prioritization. I find this to be simplistic and somewhat insulting to people who don't have the ability to overcome circumstances besides "I rather do something else".
This is exactly where you are putting words into my mouth. Perhaps the word "prioritize" is charged for you? Or has some...Tallow (alias of Andrew Christian)2018-04-19T15:44:51ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society Playtest: First Edition Boons in Second Edition Pathfinder SocietyTriOmegaZerohttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v0lu&page=3?First-Edition-Boons-in-Second-Edition#1332018-04-19T15:30:19Z2018-04-19T15:30:19Z<p>Regardless, this is not the thread to discuss that in.</p>Regardless, this is not the thread to discuss that in.TriOmegaZero2018-04-19T15:30:19ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society Playtest: First Edition Boons in Second Edition Pathfinder SocietyJDDyslexiahttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v0lu&page=3?First-Edition-Boons-in-Second-Edition#1322018-04-19T15:03:04Z2018-04-19T15:03:04Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Blake's Tiger wrote:</div><blockquote>Tallow argues that prioritizing convention attendance lower than, say, going to my sister's wedding is a choice and you bite his head off. However, you argue that GMs who prioritize sharing the job of entertaining the kids at a convention so they only have time to GM one slot and maybe play one slot are doing "as little as possible" and shouldn't be rewarded and fail to see the irony. </blockquote><p><i>Now</i> who's coming to the wrong conclusions about what someone is trying to say and interjecting their own ideas into their words?
<p>I didn't bite Tallow's head off over the concept of convention prioritization, but over the fact that his argument was that this is the SOLE contribution to why people don't go to conventions, and he boiled down any other factor (cost, family, accessibility) to prioritization. I find this to be simplistic and somewhat insulting to people who don't have the ability to overcome circumstances besides "I rather do something else".</p>
<p>I feel that people should be rewarded by the time, effort, and quality they put into something. That's how my "default world" job works. I work 40 hours, I get paid for 40 hours. I complete my tasks consistently, my boss gives me a raise. But that's not the reward system for PFS GMs at most conventions today.</p>
<p>I also understand that some people don't have the ability to work 40 hours per week or have the ability to work at a job that's moderately rewarding. But I wouldn't tell them that it's their fault because their priorities are out of whack. There's plenty of situational and environmental factors besides "priority" that prevent people from doing the things they want to do.</p>Blake's Tiger wrote:Tallow argues that prioritizing convention attendance lower than, say, going to my sister's wedding is a choice and you bite his head off. However, you argue that GMs who prioritize sharing the job of entertaining the kids at a convention so they only have time to GM one slot and maybe play one slot are doing "as little as possible" and shouldn't be rewarded and fail to see the irony.
Now who's coming to the wrong conclusions about what someone is trying to say and...JDDyslexia2018-04-19T15:03:04ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society Playtest: First Edition Boons in Second Edition Pathfinder SocietyTwilightKnighthttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v0lu&page=3?First-Edition-Boons-in-Second-Edition#1312018-04-19T00:01:39Z2018-04-19T00:01:39Z<p>I believe that registered retailers are still eligible to receive free scenarios. If so, they can print a copy and keep a file of scenarios that can be run at the store/venue. Once you identify the GM, the copy can be loaned out to the GM for prep and then returned when they are done using it. I think there are still a lot of stores following this process to save their GMs some cash.</p>
<p>Just remember that pdfs and printed material that comes from them is the intellectual property of Paizo. We cannot share pdf files and we cannot sell/trade/give away printed copies of our pdfs.</p>I believe that registered retailers are still eligible to receive free scenarios. If so, they can print a copy and keep a file of scenarios that can be run at the store/venue. Once you identify the GM, the copy can be loaned out to the GM for prep and then returned when they are done using it. I think there are still a lot of stores following this process to save their GMs some cash.
Just remember that pdfs and printed material that comes from them is the intellectual property of Paizo. We...TwilightKnight2018-04-19T00:01:39ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society Playtest: First Edition Boons in Second Edition Pathfinder SocietyCirithielhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v0lu&page=3?First-Edition-Boons-in-Second-Edition#1302018-04-19T14:55:56Z2018-04-18T21:45:16Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Joe Bouchard wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Steven Schopmeyer wrote:</div><blockquote>Loaning print copies is fine. Gifting them PDFs through the Paizo store is fine. Sharing your own pdf is not. </blockquote>Good to know. In the future, I'll start printing them out. Thanks. </blockquote><p>I know I’m off on a tangent, but you also need to •get your printed copies back• from GMs you loan them to.Joe Bouchard wrote:Steven Schopmeyer wrote:Loaning print copies is fine. Gifting them PDFs through the Paizo store is fine. Sharing your own pdf is not.
Good to know. In the future, I'll start printing them out. Thanks. I know I’m off on a tangent, but you also need to *get your printed copies back* from GMs you loan them to.Cirithiel2018-04-18T21:45:16ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society Playtest: First Edition Boons in Second Edition Pathfinder SocietyBlake's Tigerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v0lu&page=3?First-Edition-Boons-in-Second-Edition#1292018-04-18T22:06:09Z2018-04-18T18:33:38Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Joe Bouchard wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Blake's Tiger wrote:</div><blockquote>Now <i>you</i> can't have it both ways. One man's "little as possible" is another man's "the most I have to offer with my limited resources (vacation days, spousal good will, money, concentration, etc)." </blockquote><p>Fallacious comparison. In the context of my argument with Tallow, it was the justification of being able to attend conventions versus not. This argument is in regards to rewards commensurate with the work put in.
<p>I never suggested that GMs should be given greater rewards based on how much effort they put into getting to the convention in the first place. </blockquote><p>Tallow argues that prioritizing convention attendance lower than, say, going to my sister's wedding is a choice and you bite his head off. However, you argue that GMs who prioritize sharing the job of entertaining the kids at a convention so they only have time to GM one slot and maybe play one slot are doing "as little as possible" and shouldn't be rewarded and fail to see the irony.Joe Bouchard wrote:Blake's Tiger wrote:Now you can't have it both ways. One man's "little as possible" is another man's "the most I have to offer with my limited resources (vacation days, spousal good will, money, concentration, etc)."
Fallacious comparison. In the context of my argument with Tallow, it was the justification of being able to attend conventions versus not. This argument is in regards to rewards commensurate with the work put in. I never suggested that GMs should be given...Blake's Tiger2018-04-18T18:33:38ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society Playtest: First Edition Boons in Second Edition Pathfinder SocietyJDDyslexiahttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v0lu&page=3?First-Edition-Boons-in-Second-Edition#1282018-04-18T18:16:48Z2018-04-18T18:16:48Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Gregory Rebelo wrote:</div><blockquote><p>Hey, I still want to run the damn thing! </p>
<p>:) </blockquote><p>Well, the other 5-star GM already offered 3 or so tables at my store, so I think you'll have to do it at yours. :)Gregory Rebelo wrote:Hey, I still want to run the damn thing!
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Well, the other 5-star GM already offered 3 or so tables at my store, so I think you'll have to do it at yours. :)JDDyslexia2018-04-18T18:16:48ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society Playtest: First Edition Boons in Second Edition Pathfinder SocietyUpaynaohttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v0lu&page=3?First-Edition-Boons-in-Second-Edition#1272018-05-17T04:53:00Z2018-04-18T17:28:11Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Joe Bouchard wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Chronicle fishing bugs me because it's people reading/researching scenarios before playing them, which contributes to metagaming. But, that can't be helped since the scenarios are available to you if you play them.</p>
<p>Regardless, I'm leery of putting a race boon on a non-special scenario for the reasons I listed. GMs will get sick of it, and players who want to play something else will get sick of it. Even True Dragons lost its luster after a couple of tables in my area once a few GMs hit 5-star status. </blockquote><p>Hey, I still want to run the damn thing!
<p>:)</p>Joe Bouchard wrote:Chronicle fishing bugs me because it's people reading/researching scenarios before playing them, which contributes to metagaming. But, that can't be helped since the scenarios are available to you if you play them.
Regardless, I'm leery of putting a race boon on a non-special scenario for the reasons I listed. GMs will get sick of it, and players who want to play something else will get sick of it. Even True Dragons lost its luster after a couple of tables in my area once...Upaynao2018-04-18T17:28:11ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society Playtest: First Edition Boons in Second Edition Pathfinder SocietyTallow (alias of Andrew Christian)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v0lu&page=3?First-Edition-Boons-in-Second-Edition#1262018-04-18T17:14:43Z2018-04-18T17:14:43Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Joe Bouchard wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Chronicle fishing bugs me because it's people reading/researching scenarios before playing them, which contributes to metagaming. But, that can't be helped since the scenarios are available to you if you play them.</p>
<p>Regardless, I'm leery of putting a race boon on a non-special scenario for the reasons I listed. GMs will get sick of it, and players who want to play something else will get sick of it. Even True Dragons lost its luster after a couple of tables in my area once a few GMs hit 5-star status. </blockquote><p>If the scenario isn't replayable, then eventually there won't be players to play it. And I don't know why as an organizer you wouldn't try to ensure every player could play every scenario if they wanted anyways.Joe Bouchard wrote:Chronicle fishing bugs me because it's people reading/researching scenarios before playing them, which contributes to metagaming. But, that can't be helped since the scenarios are available to you if you play them.
Regardless, I'm leery of putting a race boon on a non-special scenario for the reasons I listed. GMs will get sick of it, and players who want to play something else will get sick of it. Even True Dragons lost its luster after a couple of tables in my area once...Tallow (alias of Andrew Christian)2018-04-18T17:14:43ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society Playtest: First Edition Boons in Second Edition Pathfinder SocietyJDDyslexiahttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v0lu&page=3?First-Edition-Boons-in-Second-Edition#1252018-04-18T16:53:08Z2018-04-18T16:53:08Z<p>Chronicle fishing bugs me because it's people reading/researching scenarios before playing them, which contributes to metagaming. But, that can't be helped since the scenarios are available to you if you play them.</p>
<p>Regardless, I'm leery of putting a race boon on a non-special scenario for the reasons I listed. GMs will get sick of it, and players who want to play something else will get sick of it. Even True Dragons lost its luster after a couple of tables in my area once a few GMs hit 5-star status.</p>Chronicle fishing bugs me because it's people reading/researching scenarios before playing them, which contributes to metagaming. But, that can't be helped since the scenarios are available to you if you play them.
Regardless, I'm leery of putting a race boon on a non-special scenario for the reasons I listed. GMs will get sick of it, and players who want to play something else will get sick of it. Even True Dragons lost its luster after a couple of tables in my area once a few GMs hit...JDDyslexia2018-04-18T16:53:08Z