Question about rebuilt character after core campaign.


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Hello everyone, can I do the next trick?
I create a core character, I play a module for which I get 3xp right away. Before I play them on the second level, I can change it as I want. But can I change it into non-core character?

For example, play the module for a core bard, then change it and the second level play a summoner.

Liberty's Edge 3/5 5/5 **** Venture-Captain, Nebraska—Omaha

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Yes, you can move a core character into a non-core character on rebuild before playing at 2nd level.

Once you leave core, you can never go back to core with that character, even if it was 1st level.

You likely known this, but the only valid summoner character is out of the Pathfinder Unchained book. The summoner found in the Advanced Players Guide is not legal for PFS.


Gary Bush wrote:

Yes, you can move a core character into a non-core character on rebuild before playing at 2nd level.

Once you leave core, you can never go back to core with that character, even if it was 1st level.

You likely known this, but the only valid summoner character is out of the Pathfinder Unchained book. The summoner found in the Advanced Players Guide is not legal for PFS.

Thanks for the answer. Summoner I gave just an example.

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Small clarification: Mike Brock ruled (and I don't believe it was ever overturned) that Core GM-babies must be *played* at least once as a Core-legal PC before they can be switched to non-Core.


Gino Melone wrote:
Small clarification: Mike Brock ruled (and I don't believe it was ever overturned) that Core GM-babies must be *played* at least once as a Core-legal PC before they can be switched to non-Core.

Sounds strange. Is there a link to this interview?

And did not I played once? My first game was played by a core-legal character. Or a core-legal character is a character with a 2nd level?

Liberty's Edge 3/5 5/5 **** Venture-Captain, Nebraska—Omaha

You played it once as a core-legal character and got 3 XP. You are ok.

Gino is talking about GM babies, which it does not sound like your character is that.


Gary Bush wrote:

You played it once as a core-legal character and got 3 XP. You are ok.

Gino is talking about GM babies, which it does not sound like your character is that.

Oh, i get it. But my GM said that until the developer responded in this thread, he would not allow such a trick.

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There are a few different variations of this issue. I feel like I remember there being a clarification at some point that a character with core credit can only rebuild into core options at 1st level, but could then take standard options from level 2 onward. Looking for it. In the meantime:

You can't rebuild into a CORE character using chronicle sheets from the Standard campaign (No one was suggesting you could. Just linking for completeness)

You can assign CORE GM chronicles to a character, then switch them to standard later

However...

You have to make a CORE character with those chronicles first, then can select Standard options after you switch

I have failed to find a post specifically addressing the 1st-level rebuild, but I could see reading that post about GM credit and feeling like it should apply to player credit as well

Liberty's Edge 3/5 5/5 **** Venture-Captain, Nebraska—Omaha

VWaltz wrote:
Gary Bush wrote:

You played it once as a core-legal character and got 3 XP. You are ok.

Gino is talking about GM babies, which it does not sound like your character is that.

Oh, i get it. But my GM said that until the developer responded in this thread, he would not allow such a trick.

There is no trick. The Guide allows a rebuild before being played at second level. No developer or other official type needs to post here. If your GM is still not sure, encourage him/her to contact the local VL or VC.

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Wow, amazing what a 6-7 months will do...

here's a link to a thread where I asked much this same question for a PC concept I had... and got a different response.

Rebuilding from Core to Standard..

according to the "experts" in that thread I had to play in a Standard game as my Core build, before I could use the 1st level rebuild using Standard rules. In other words, I had to PLAY in a Standard game to Transition to the Standard Campaign. And before that, as a Core PC I could only Re-Build using Core rules. So my 3rd game was as a Core PC, but played in a Standard game - after which my PC became a Standard Campaign PC and could be re-written using Standard rules.

If I had played the PC in a Core scenario and gotten his 3rd XP as a Core - then he was "locked in" and could only be re-built (using 1st level re-build rule) as a Core PC... who could then play in a Standard game and Transition to Standard - but then it would be past the 1st level re-build stage. Basically, the Transition is the act of PLAYING in the Standard game, which has to be started as a Core PC - and it is only after starting Play as a Core PC in a Standard game that the PC becomes a Standard Campaign PC (and then eligible to be re-built using Standard rules).

But heck, what do I know? That's just the way it was explained to me back in July when I did this...

Liberty's Edge 3/5 5/5 **** Venture-Captain, Nebraska—Omaha

Ok, I am starting see what is happening.

To take advantage of the 1st level rebuild provided by the Guide, the character has to still be legal in the whatever system (Core/Standard) that they gained the XP.

So to the OP original question, as long as the rebuilt character at 2nd level is legal for Core, you would be ok to then transition to Standard. This means that any classes, races, feats, spells, etc that are outside Core are not allowed in the rebuild.

This makes more sense than I what I originally said, at least to me.

Shadow Lodge

In theory, though, you could use the Ultimate Campaign retraining rules after switching to Standard...

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VWaltz wrote:

Hello everyone, can I do the next trick?

I create a core character, I play a module for which I get 3xp right away. Before I play them on the second level, I can change it as I want. But can I change it into non-core character?

For example, play the module for a core bard, then change it and the second level play a summoner.

So the answer would be no.

The character after the module would be a 2nd level Core PC and would have to be legal as such - so it could not be changed (rebuilt) into a Summoner - as a Summoner is not a Core Class.

Now, if you played the Module on Slow progression, then you would have 1.5 XP and would still be able to rebuild - then you went and played a Standard game starting the adventure as the Core build - you could then re-build as you liked - because at the end of the 2nd game you would be a Standard PC with 2.5 XP (or even 4.5 if the second game was a Standard Module worth 3XP).

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