unusual barbarian abilities


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the barbarian has some skills and abilities that seem more appropriate for a ranger or rogue than a strong, clumsy barbarian. specifically, acrobatics, uncanny dodge, and trap sense.

why does the barbarian get these abilities?

i'm hoping for something other than:
"because that's what the designers decided."

Liberty's Edge

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Conan the Barbarian

Was quite the thief while keeping full BAB

Shadow Lodge

Where exactly are you getting the 'clumsy' bit from? It's definitely not from primal instincts that uncanny dodge and trap sense can represent, or the ability to chase prey/foes almost anywhere by jumping over obstacles with Acrobatics...


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Uncanny dodge is basically saying you're always ready for a fight and never caught off guard.

trap sense is the same thing, you're always ready for something to be jumping out at you.

acrobatics because that's a physical skill and they are fit men that can do physical things like jumping.


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Yeah, barbarians aren't innately clumsy.

Where do you see "dex penalty" built into the class anywhere?

Or any acrobatics penalties? Or anything like that?

I think the problems is your preconceived notions have no notion of representation anywhere in the mechanics of the class.

So the answer is, you have a different idea of "barbarian" than the original designer did.

Grand Lodge

Just like with any class, the barbarian simply provides a chassis in which you can build a conceptual character. There are plenty of character types that you could call barbarians that are lean and nimble and lie in ambush for their targets (read: dexterity based barbarians)


Syries wrote:
Just like with any class, the barbarian simply provides a chassis in which you can build a conceptual character. There are plenty of character types that you could call barbarians that are lean and nimble and lie in ambush for their targets (read: dexterity based barbarians)

Exactly. An Ekuji elf who stalks the woods with a bow and an elven branched spear might well be a barbarian, but is almost certainly not clumsy.


I just finished by dex based Barb for an upcoming campaign :-)


From the class description: "They possess a sixth sense in regard to danger"

Hence uncanny dodge, and trap sense.


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great replies, everybody. spot on.

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