MerlinCross |
So looking over Alchemist archetypes. Quick question.
Preservationist gets Summon Nature's Ally on their formula list. But... um when do they do this? Here's the rub I'm having.
Bottled Ally I
At 2nd level, a preservationist adds Handle Animal to his list of class skills. He adds summon nature’s ally I to his formula book as a 1st-level extract.
So when do I get Summon Nature Ally? At level 1 when I take it, or at second level?
Backpack |
So looking over Alchemist archetypes. Quick question.
Preservationist gets Summon Nature's Ally on their formula list. But... um when do they do this? Here's the rub I'm having.
Quote:So when do I get Summon Nature Ally? At level 1 when I take it, or at second level?Bottled Ally I
At 2nd level, a preservationist adds Handle Animal to his list of class skills. He adds summon nature’s ally I to his formula book as a 1st-level extract.
There are a few other things written like this, and most would agree that it means you get both handle animal and summon natures ally at lv 2. Otherwise, it opens up a massive can of worms. That isn't to say some disagree, but some also disagree that you can't act while dead.
Dasrak |
but some also disagree that you can't act while dead.
Necromancy has been a thing since the CRB (sorry, couldn't help myself)
In all seriousness, the summon spells are pretty close to useless at 1st so I might be inclined to rule generously. It looks harmless to give it to them a level early. Text-wise, though, I'd agree that the "at 2nd level" should apply to the entire paragraph.
Backpack |
Backpack wrote:but some also disagree that you can't act while dead.Necromancy has been a thing since the CRB (sorry, couldn't help myself)
In all seriousness, the summon spells are pretty close to useless at 1st so I might be inclined to rule generously. It looks harmless to give it to them a level early. Text-wise, though, I'd agree that the "at 2nd level" should apply to the entire paragraph.
I agree that in this instance it doesn't seem OP but like I referenced, it is a slippery slope. I can't remember the specifics right now but this came up with a lv 6 ability. If you get this at lv 1, you'd get that as well.
And certainly, you can act while undead, obviously. But excuse me while I go sicken constructs with my will saves.