Building a Imperious Bloodline Gish. Not sure how to pull it off


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I've always love the Gish type characters even though they are weaker than there actual full caster counterparts, I find them really Fun

and its Been a while since I've played one.

I as the Title says trying to find the best way to include the imperious bloodline on to a Gish Build.

I want to Be The self Buffing kind of Gish who Deals and ok amount of Damage


If you want the bloodline but don't necessarily need the sorcerer class, then a bard or skald who takes the eldritch heritage feats, or else who takes the sorcerer variant multiclass (PF Unchained) might be the easiest way to do this.

A sorcerer heading for eldritch knight or similar has the problem that their bloodline will stop advancing once they multiclass out.

A single-classed sorcerer of course has the problem that they don't easily make a gish. Swashbuckler 1 / Sorcerer 4 / Evangelist (prestige class) 10 would be slightly better and would be only a couple of levels behind on the bloodline abilities - the evangelist prestige class advances them.


Magus with the Eldritch Heritage feat chain or VMC Sorcerer (Imperious) is another possibility. However, the Imperious Bloodline has a catch in this department -- it depends very strongly on your Charisma even if you are not a Sorcerer. So to avoid being super-MAD, you would need to be an Eldritch Scion Magus, which makes your casting spontaneous and Charisma-dependent. Note that Eldritch Scion Magus makes use of a Bloodrager Bloodline, but unfortunately no Imperious Bloodrager Bloodline is available -- hence the requirement to use Eldritch Heritage feat chain or VMC Sorcerer, and you are going to be highly feat-starved (in general, Magus gives only 3 Bonus Combat Feats, and Eldritch Scion isn't one of the archetypes and isn't compatible with any of the other archetypes that give fixed bonus feats, although a few Magus Arcana also grant feats). Another possibility that is more martial-focused and less casting-focused would be Bloodrager with the Eldritch Heritage feat chain or VMC Sorcerer (Imperious) -- same issue with the Bloodlines, but at least Bloodrager gives a few more Bonus Feats (not all of which are necessarily Combat Feats, but the list is set by your Bloodrager Bloodline). Note that for comparing Eldritch Heritage to VMC Sorcerer, if you want most of the Bloodline Powers, VMC Sorcerer effectively uses only 4 feats, because VMC Sorcerer IV gives you a Bloodline Feat, and the Imperious Bloodline Feats list includes some that you might actually want.

Edit: I just realized that since the Imperious Bloodline's 3rd and 15th level abilities strongly synergize with Bard/Skald buffing, Bard/Skald with the Eldritch Heritage feat chain is probably the better way to do this. Using VMC Sorcerer is also possible here, but it's really annoying how much it delays getting your Bloodline Powers (especially 9th and 15th), and although Skill Focus (Oratory) to get the Eldritch Heritage feat chain is usually just a feat tax, at least on a Bard the Distraction Bardic Performance actually uses this skill, so it's not a total loss.


Heroic Echo doesn't apply to bardic abilities, since they are (Su).
It does apply to Heroism, Good Hope, Greater Heroism, the Rage spell, the Pale Green Prism Ioun Stone, and probably a lot of other spells and items. Encouraging Spell on Rage gives you +4/+4.

Maybe an Eldritch Scrapper sorcerer? Not the most powerful, but it keeps the level 3 ability which is the key one for self-buffing.

Maybe Contingency to trigger Encouraging Rage when you cast Transformation. A pretty sub-optimal approach but could be fun regardless.


^That's what I get for putting that post together at 03:58 in the morning . . . .

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