Sundering a Shadowcraft weapon ???

[LoBandolerPi]

Hello, I am building a Zon-Kuthon Warpriest, and after considering the Weapon Sacrifice option I realized that I have no clue about these 2 questions:

Is it possible to sunder or damage quasi-real shadowcraft weapons?

If so, which is the Hardness and how many hitpoins has a shadowcraft weapon?

Bonus: If you can not damage them, can you use Weapon sacrifice with them? Does this depend on any Will save?

[toastedamphibian]

Nothing seems to say they don't, so RAW, they do. What that would be is harder to say.

Personally, I would look to shadow conjuration. So, 1/5th hp, full hardness. Unless they disbelieve, then 1/5th hardness. Based off the hp and hardness of the type of weapon it currently is.

I would then add the bonuses from enhancement on top, and fully (not dividing by 5, even if they disbelieve).

[LoBandolerPi]

Thanks. I guess you are right, it is the only reference to how shadow things work. Even if it makes melee shadowcraft weapons even worse.

I have yet to decide if I am really mean and still pick Weapon Sacrifice to lower the treasure that mi PC can loot.

[toastedamphibian]

Lashing Shadowcraft weapon looks pretty handy.

[LoBandolerPi]

toastedamphibian wrote:

Lashing Shadowcraft weapon looks pretty handy.

I know, that and zon-kuthon flavor are the reasons why the NPC has a shadowcraft wepon in the first place. But there are huge chances of making 1 weapon damage.

[toastedamphibian]

If they disbelieve, it deals minimum damage, like you rolled all 1's on your damage dice. So say you have a d12 weapon, average is 6.5 if they believe, or 1 if they don't. Average of 4.5 damage depending on if they make their save. Not ideal, but not catastrophic.

[Dave Justus]

Since Shadowcraft weapons don't have any special sundering rules, they sunder like everything else.

Having it have less HP like shadow conjuration makes sense, but it would be a houserule.