When Does the PRD Come Out???


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For Starfinder, when will we see this? Fall's almost over and I haven't seen a lick of anything hinting that it will be up soon.


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What does PRD mean?


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I believe he means the Starfinder Reference Document that are supposed to come out Fall 2017.


JetSetRadio wrote:
What does PRD mean?

Pathfinder Reference Document.

Or in this case, SRD (Starfinder Reference Document)

Basically the core rules in a nutshell, used heavily by those wanting to create Open Game License (OGL) content.

Unless I'm totally out of my gourd...


I wouldn't wait on it.

Just use this

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I think this sort of thing is the project of one staff member working on it in their spare time...the PRD hasn't had an update in years.


Wow, not one person has taken the opportunity to tell me I'm out of my gourd.

Not one person has wanted to be right?

Well, ruling you all as my subjects/soul-batteries in my dark empire will be easy!


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Well, we just figured that someone whose parents named them "Deathseed" is GOING to be crazy and megalomaniacal, there was no need to point it out.
Talk about interesting conversations around the baby book!
;-)


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ENHenry wrote:

Well, we just figured that someone whose parents named them "Deathseed" is GOING to be crazy and megalomaniacal, there was no need to point it out.

Talk about interesting conversations around the baby book!
;-)

Well it was either that or Bob.

Can you really see the Outer Darkness spawning a world-ending abomination and naming it Bob?

Actually, hmm, yeah that might work.

But Deathseed it is. When I'm planted in your world, watch it whither and die.

But from its corpse, oh what wonders will be born! A new age of deathlessness. Darkness and undeath eternal!


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Trust me, iiii*static*t's even worse when the Maker has a sick sensr of humor and builds and programs you to malfunction every now and then...
Can't be the murder machine he wanted, now i'm <DATA NOT FOUND> and happy to be able to *windowsXPshutdownnoise

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Sauce987654321 wrote:

I wouldn't wait on it.

Just use this

It still would be nice to have an "official" source on the Paizo website than something else that is maintained outside of Paizo.


Not going to lie, it looks kinda bad to have a link on the landing page of Starfinder that leads to a promise of a launch date that's already past.

At *least* update it to Coming Soon. That's the bare minimum.


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It hasn't technically passed yet. Fall 2017 doesn't end for another week.


pithica42 wrote:
It hasn't technically passed yet. Fall 2017 doesn't end for another week.

Fair enough :) As far as I'm concerned Fall ends in October which is probably why I got confused here.


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Fall doesn't usually even start here until November, so I have the opposite problem.


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my Fall ends when the last of the leaves has already fallen. so yeah, Fall was over a week or two ago. We are well into the next season, "Too fracking cold!".


Fall starts when night time temps routinely drop below 60F.

Winter starts when Daytime highs drop below 60F.

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Fall ends on Dec 21 in the northern hemisphere. It's a fixed date every year, not when a squirrel wipes its bum with a leaf and shivers twice or whatever you guys are going on about.


Tarpeius wrote:
Fall ends on Dec 21 in the northern hemisphere. It's a fixed date every year, not when a squirrel wipes its bum with a leaf and shivers twice or whatever you guys are going on about.

That entirely depends on what squirrel we're talking about.


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Tarpeius wrote:
Fall ends on Dec 21 in the northern hemisphere. It's a fixed date every year

It depends. No, really, it depends.

Northern Meteorological Seasons

According to the meteorological definition, the seasons begin on the first day of the months that include the equinoxes and solstices:

Spring runs from March 1 to May 31;
Summer runs from June 1 to August 31;
Fall (autumn) runs from September 1 to November 30; and
Winter runs from December 1 to February 28 (February 29 in a leap year).

Astronomical Seasons

The astronomical definition uses the dates of equinoxes and solstices to mark the beginning and end of the seasons:

Spring begins on the spring equinox;
Summer begins on the summer solstice;
Fall (autumn) begins on the fall equinox; and
Winter begins on the winter solstice.

Some cultures regard the autumnal equinox as "mid-autumn", while others with a longer temperature lag treat it as the start of autumn. Meteorologists (and most of the temperate countries in the southern hemisphere) use a definition based on Gregorian calendar months, with autumn being September, October, and November in the northern hemisphere, and March, April, and May in the southern hemisphere.


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I never knew about the Astronomical Seasons. I've always just thought it was the Meteorological definition. That explains a couple of quite heated debates I've had over the years.

Thanks. :)

EDIT: I'm in one of those Southern Hemisphere countries though, so perhaps that can excuse why I'd never heard of the other.


Steve Geddes wrote:

I never knew about the Astronomical Seasons. I've always just thought it was the Meteorological definition. That explains a couple of quite heated debates I've had over the years.

Thanks. :)

I only figured it out when an NZ friend wished me happy something or other and I was, "wait, what?"

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Lane_S wrote:

Fall starts when night time temps routinely drop below 60F.

Winter starts when Daytime highs drop below 60F.

Bwa...by this definition I've lived in a place where it's always winter. 55-60 F is shorts/t-shirt/swimming weather. 70 F is "Don't want to move 'cause it's so hot."

Winter is when the Daytime high is negative in degrees F.

Where I live now (700 miles south of where I described above) doesn't really have winter.

When I watch Empire Strikes Back, Hoth fills me with nostalgia for home.


How is life in Narnia these days?


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This is why no one other than farmers should ever use meteorological "seasons". They are too variably and subjective.


JetSetRadio wrote:
What does PRD mean?
They probably meant SRD or System Reference Document. Paizo has an SRD for Pathfinder with a slightly more personal name of Pathfinder Reference Document, and they'll probably call the Starfinder version SRD only instead of System it's Starfinder Reference Document.
pithica42 wrote:
It hasn't technically passed yet. Fall 2017 doesn't end for another week.

Eh...kind of. While astrologically speaking winter hasn't come yet, but ask a meteorologist and he'll say it's been winter for the past 20 days. That being said it's cutting very close.

I just wish they would tell us if it's delayed or not.

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Grave Knight wrote:
I just wish they would tell us if it's delayed or not.

It's delayed.

The page no longer calls out Fall 2017 as the timeframe.


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Yup. Was about to post. It now says, "Coming Soon".


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pithica42 wrote:
Yup. Was about to post. It now says, "Coming Soon".

"soon" in the Eoxian sense of the world.


"When will then be now?" - Dark Helmut


Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
Grave Knight wrote:
I just wish they would tell us if it's delayed or not.

It's delayed.

The page no longer calls out Fall 2017 as the timeframe.

Yeah, I noticed. Was hoping for a new, more specific, ETA. Oh well.


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Grave Knight wrote:
Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
Grave Knight wrote:
I just wish they would tell us if it's delayed or not.

It's delayed.

The page no longer calls out Fall 2017 as the timeframe.

Yeah, I noticed. Was hoping for a new, more specific, ETA. Oh well.

Most places state "SOON" its so relative. It gives them the flexibility of when they want/can get to it. I hate when "SOON" is used. It tells me they may be working on in it or it has been set aside for the time being and it will get done when it does.


Best case scenario, it will be a christmas present. A more realistic estimate will be around jenuary. Worst case scenario after the next handbook, so april.


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I think worst case scenario would be whatever is going on with the PRD, which is coming up on two years worth of books that have not been added.


Sauce987654321 wrote:

I wouldn't wait on it.

Just use this

This looks promising, but I hate that none of the entries list sources. Granted, there aren't may yet for SF but their absence just doesn't lend to credibility. I prefer the warm fuzzy, and knowing what page to turn to for validation and context.


Not sourced and lacking in page links. Appears to be missing the stuff included in the APs and some of the stuff from AA but maybe they're just in the wrong spot.

I'm hopeful for starfindersrd but it's kind of a mess right now.


starfindersrd also hasn't updated yet with the starship combat errata.


AnimatedPaper wrote:
I think worst case scenario would be whatever is going on with the PRD, which is coming up on two years worth of books that have not been added.

This.

The PRD hasn't been updated in almost 2 years, So I wouldn't hold my breath on them making the Starfinder version a very high priority. I'm sure it's on "the list of things to do", I just wonder how high on that list it is.


Childeric, The Shatterer wrote:
AnimatedPaper wrote:
I think worst case scenario would be whatever is going on with the PRD, which is coming up on two years worth of books that have not been added.

This.

The PRD hasn't been updated in almost 2 years, So I wouldn't hold my breath on them making the Starfinder version a very high priority. I'm sure it's on "the list of things to do", I just wonder how high on that list it is.

Given that it only makes money for people who aren't them....


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I wouldn't say that it only makes money for people that aren't them. It certainly makes a lot of money for other people, and almost certainly the bulk of money is made by people that aren't them. But at least some of their book purchases are made by people that used an SRD first, but wanted a book (with pictures and what not) to have as their own. An SRD is about spreading your user base to as many people as possible, some of which will purchase books for games/settings that may have never played in the first place without an SRD.

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