Aura of Menace for each Archon


Rules Questions

Scarab Sages

I have always played the archon's Aura of Menace penalty as not stacking despite the fact that the rules as written certainly could lead one to arguing that. If this was the case, then the archons would of long ago defeated the forces of evil as even a Balor or Pit Fiend would eventually roll enough 1s if they are up against hundreds or thousands of archons.

My question is do the effects stack for each archon as to being hit by the effect? For example, if a target is up against four archons and fails their save against all of them, do they have to hit each archon in order to remove the -2 penalty, or do they only need to hit one?

Another interesting point is that if one had an archon on the field, a cleric who cast archon's aura on themselves, and wearing a halo of menace it could be argued the penalty would stack for all since they are and coming from different sources.

Sczarni

Great question, but you've stumbled across the Forum for Pathfinder Society Organized Play. I think you meant to post this in the Rules Questions Forum (or maybe the regular General Discussion Forum?), so I'll go ahead and flag your post to be moved to a better location so it can garner the attention and answers/discussion it deserves ^_^

Scarab Sages

Well I am asking it here as this question is meant for Society play, but the rules department works as well.


The answer to a question about how a rule works for PFS is that "it follows the normal rules."
Thus if you have a question on how something work, aka a questions about rules of the game, those belong in the rules forum.
The PFS forum is for PFS specific things like campaign clarification requests, factions, scenarios, etc.

Scarab Sages

Thank you!

Sczarni

No worries. Common misconception =)

Scarab Sages

Thoughts anyone?


Well if you have three players of similar builds, all witches and you save against one hex from one of the witches are immune to the others from the other 2? Of course not. Therefor, i would say it would have to hit each archon to remove the corresponding aura from that archon, but i do not believe the penalties from them add up. it just means if your guy in question wanted to get rid of the -2 penalties he would first have to hit every archon affecting him.


They would overlap but not stack, for the same reason that the penalties from three bane spells from different sources would not stack. Evilserran has it right.

Scarab Sages

I figured as much, thank you all!

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