Phillip Gastone |
Story fatigue I guess, plus I was kinda tired of Gally herself since she started beating everyone in the ZOTT like a red-headed step children. The side characters like the Space Karate crew and the ghostly zen monk were far more interesting since they were struggling along their paths while Gally was effectively a max level character stomping through a low level zone.
Greylurker |
Is Panzer Kunst her style of martial arts?
You mean after all this time they are only now starting to show how/why she become a cyborg?
Did Nova know Alita/Gally when she was human or at least have anything to do with her being in the dumb?
Yeah Panzer Kunst is a Martial arts specifically created for fighting Cyborgs.Kind of heavy on hard hitting joint strikes
There had always been a few hints to her past. We learned she was from mars and she was part of some kind of rebellion but we never really had the full details.
Freehold DM |
So both Last Order and Mars Chronicles are prequels?
yeeeesssss and no.
Last order goes into some flashbacks and explanations for the entire world, including when vampires took over. I wish I was making that up. But mars chronicles explains where gally was when much of this was happening.
Charles Scholz |
Until I got the collectors edition I didn't realize the last book was non-canon.
I just thought the ending of Last Order was a retelling because the author wanted to extend the books and still explain the ending of the first series.
BTW in the dream world of the last canon book, Ido and Nova call her Gally.
What did they call her in the original Japanese manga?
Charles Scholz |
Dragon78 wrote:So both Last Order and Mars Chronicles are prequels?yeeeesssss and no.
Last order goes into some flashbacks and explanations for the entire world, including when vampires took over. I wish I was making that up. But mars chronicles explains where gally was when much of this was happening.
Most of Last Order's flashbacks are what happened to the Earth before the elevator was finally built, allowing people to colonize other planets.
The flashbacks with Gally/Alita are why she left Mars and what she did on the elevator that led to her being found broken in the Scrapyard.Mars Chronicles' flashbacks, which looks to be most of what the story is going to be for now, are about her life as a child and growing up.
Freehold DM |
Until I got the collectors edition I didn't realize the last book was non-canon.
I just thought the ending of Last Order was a retelling because the author wanted to extend the books and still explain the ending of the first series.BTW in the dream world of the last canon book, Ido and Nova call her Gally.
What did they call her in the original Japanese manga?
Gally.
Charles Scholz |
Charles Scholz wrote:Gally.Until I got the collectors edition I didn't realize the last book was non-canon.
I just thought the ending of Last Order was a retelling because the author wanted to extend the books and still explain the ending of the first series.BTW in the dream world of the last canon book, Ido and Nova call her Gally.
What did they call her in the original Japanese manga?
Just clarifying, they still called her Gally in the dream world?
Freehold DM |
Freehold DM wrote:Charles Scholz wrote:Gally.Until I got the collectors edition I didn't realize the last book was non-canon.
I just thought the ending of Last Order was a retelling because the author wanted to extend the books and still explain the ending of the first series.BTW in the dream world of the last canon book, Ido and Nova call her Gally.
What did they call her in the original Japanese manga?Just clarifying, they still called her Gally in the dream world?
yup.
Sharoth |
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I got to see this movie today and I was impressed. It was a very good interpretation and adaptation of the manga. They did their best to respect the manga and the characters. It was well worth full price and the movie will be going into my "To Own" category when it comes out on DVD. I might even see it again in the theater.
The Purity of Violence |
I never read the manga, but for what it was trying to do, I was very pleased by this. Lots of standard tropes, with just enough twists to keep things interesting. I felt this was better than anything Marvel has done in a long while. Rosa Salazar and Christopher Waltz are great. Go see it in a cinema so it makes enough money to justify a sequel. Definitely a blu-ray purchase.
Bjørn Røyrvik |
The best live-action adaptation of a manga. On the whole, very well done. It's obvious the creators put a lot of effort and love into this one, and they actually understood the characters (mostly) and kept the important bits of the stories.
Being who I am, I have a few issues. The pointless mix of Japanese and English names for things (Alita and Zalem, instead of Gally and Zalem or Alita and Tiphares) or changing Ido's name to Dyson. The introduction of Chiren (whose entire excuse for existence could have been fulfilled by a 20 second scene with Alita watching Ido) was pointless, but I'll give it a pass since we see Connelly in lingerie. The worst was how they ruined Hugo's character in his death scene, and to a lesser extent the replacement of dark mirror opponent by Grewishka, who is just a brute. Some of the changes worked for the better, like how Alita gets the Berserker frame.
The action was great, there are cameos and details galore for fans of the manga, and it's enjoyable for newcomers. In short, a quite good movie and I'll be seeing it again soon.
Tectorman |
I never read the manga, but for what it was trying to do, I was very pleased by this. Lots of standard tropes, with just enough twists to keep things interesting. I felt this was better than anything Marvel has done in a long while. Rosa Salazar and Christopher Waltz are great. Go see it in a cinema so it makes enough money to justify a sequel. Definitely a blu-ray purchase.
In fairness, the script for the movie was written (though it's been revised since then) two decades ago and they were just waiting for the technology to catch up so as to have the film do justice to the source material. So back then, the tropes either weren't standard, or the original series is what made them standard.