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When the book refers to weapons with "Orc" in the name, is it only referring to the Orc double axe? Are there other orc weapons? If an orc crafts his own battle axe does that make it an "Orc battle axe"?


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Melee Tactics Toolbox wrote:

Orc Skull Ram

Two-Handed Exotic Weapon
Cost: 15 gp Damage: 1d10 ×3 Weight: 20 lbs. Type: B Special: Reach

This weapon consists of a wooden log with a shoulder strap to carry some of the weight. The name comes from the orc tradition of making the ram’s head out of a large skull. On a successful critical hit with a skull ram, you can attempt a combat maneuver check to bull rush your opponent as a free action.

Or, from the technology guide, the Laser tORCh?


Julbo the Nice Orc wrote:
Melee Tactics Toolbox wrote:

Orc Skull Ram

Two-Handed Exotic Weapon
Cost: 15 gp Damage: 1d10 ×3 Weight: 20 lbs. Type: B Special: Reach

This weapon consists of a wooden log with a shoulder strap to carry some of the weight. The name comes from the orc tradition of making the ram’s head out of a large skull. On a successful critical hit with a skull ram, you can attempt a combat maneuver check to bull rush your opponent as a free action.

Or, from the technology guide, the Laser tORCh?

Huh, never seen that weapon before? Where did you find it?


They are in a variety of sources, but there are currently three qualifying weapons that have "Orc" in the weapon name:

Orc Double Axe (CRB)
Orc Skull Ram (Melee Tactics Toolbox)
Orc Hornbow (Adventurer's Armory)


Jolken Jenkins wrote:
Huh, never seen that weapon before? Where did you find it?

I was going to say, from the Melee Tactics Toolbox, but the honest answer is, I got it from this thread.

Dark Archive

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The Orc Hornbow is explicitly banned in PFS.

On the other hand, you can use Body Bludgeon to wield the party's Halfling sORCeror (with the player's permission) as a weapon.


I always had problems with the wording for that ability (or at least, abilities that give a race a benefit regarding weapons with their name in it, in case that isn't what you're referring to).

By it's wording, if dwarves created a weapon called a 'dwarven orc-killer (or 'skewer' or 'poker')' and orcs would somehow benefit from using it for absolutely no logical reason.

Theoretically you could create a weapon called the 'dwarven-steel kobold cleaver of elven-style orc-killing' and, (obviously naming it for races with such an ability,) regardless of what race makes the weapon or how it's used or its actual history, multiple races are somehow more proficient or 'racially-trained' with it (or whatever their benefit would be with it, like treating it as martial instead of exotic.)

Plus, by the wording (the orc weapon familiarity anyhow), it would always be treated as a martial weapon, even if it were a simple weapon. For instance, if there were such a thing as an 'orc staff' (probably it would be an exotic weapon, but for sake of argument let's assume it simple, basically a staff with a slight variant) then in the hands of an orc, such as an orc sorcerer or wizard, it would count as martial, which they might not be trained in. In the hands of any other race, it's a simple weapon. Thankfully, I think most of us try to avoid super-strict or narrow readings for some cases.

In answer to your question though:

Jolken Jenkins wrote:
When the book refers to weapons with "Orc" in the name, is it only referring to the Orc double axe? Are there other orc weapons?

(Assuming we're referring to orc weapon familiarity) no, it refers to any weapon with 'orc' in the name (probably not 'torch'), and yes, there are other weapons with the word 'orc' in them.

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If an orc crafts his own battle axe does that make it an "Orc battle axe"?

No, that would be an orc-made battleaxe, but unless you specifically designed a new style or type of battleaxe and named it (the type of weapon, not gave a battleaxe a specific name like 'Charlene' or 'Joe the Orc Battleaxe') then it would not count. Even if it did, I think an orc's weapon familiarity just makes them count as martial weapons, which most battleaxes are anyway.

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