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Magus and Craft Want: HELP!


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I was wondering what Class does Magus use when figuring out how much they pay when making Wands. I've been looking for the answer EVERYWHERE and I am finding absolutely nothing. One person told me Wizard and someone now just told me Bard, which makes no sense to me since the Magus is rather spell heavy, even if their progression is slower. Thank you so much for the help!


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It doesn't matter what class you are. The price is determined by the formula below.

Wands: Base price = spell level × caster level × 750 gp.
The price of a wand is equal to the level of the spell × the creator's caster level × 750 gp.

The cost to make a Wand is half of that price: (spell level) × (caster level) × 375 gp.

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Edit: The table that is likely confusing you is only listing the minimum cost for wands. It simply reflects the fact that some classes have faster spell progressions than others. For example Clerics , Druids, and Wizards get access to a new spell level every two levels as do Sorcerers, but Sorcerers are one level behind the others. So a Sorcerer will need to be one caster level higher for each spell level, and their wands will cost more.

The minimum cost for a Magus-created wand would be the same as a Bard because they both gain access to new spell levels every three levels after the first class level.


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For a magus the minimum caster level to make a wand at is 1st for 1st level spells, 4th for 2nd level spells, 7th for 3rd level spells, 10th for 4th level spells; i.e. 750 gp, 6 000 gp, 15 750 gp & 30 000 gp base price respectively, using the formulas Gisher quoted. This is the same as a bard because they have the same spell progression as a magus.


Gisher wrote:

It doesn't matter what class you are. The price is determined by the formula below.

Wands: Base price = spell level × caster level × 750 gp.
The price of a wand is equal to the level of the spell × the creator's caster level × 750 gp.
The cost to make a Wand is half of that price: (spell level) × (caster level) × 375 gp.

This is basically what confuses the ever loving crap out of me... so if I am making the want it would be less than what the Chart is telling me because the chart indicates the price of wands should you want them?


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Hanani wrote:
... so if I am making the wand it would be less than what the Chart is telling me because the chart indicates the price of wands should you want them?

The opposite really. You can make wands more expensive than the chart says, because sometimes a character wants higher-caster-level wands.

Take Scorching Ray, for example. The spell says, "You may fire one ray, plus one additional ray for every four levels beyond 3rd (to a maximum of three rays at 11th level)." Scorching Ray at caster level 3 shoots one ray. Scorching Ray at caster level 7 shoots two rays, twice as much damage. Scorching Ray at caster level 11 shoots 3 rays, thrice as much damage.

Scorching Ray at caster level 1 is impossible: caster level 3 is the minimum to cast Scorching Ray, because that is when wizards can cast it. However, for maguses, the minumum caster level is 4, because that is when the magus can first cast Scorching Ray. For bloodragers, minimum caster level is 7, so their first Scorching Ray spell shoots two rays! For bards, Scorching Ray is not on their spell list, so forget it.

If a wizard, magus, or bloodrager makes a wand of Scorching Ray at caster level 7, then it costs (spell level)^(caster level)*750gp/2 = 2*7*750gp/2 = 5,250gp to craft. And that wand shoots out two rays for each charge.

If a wizard wants to make a minimum-level Scorching Ray wand, one that shoots just one ray per charge, he makes it at caster level 3 and it costs 2*3*750gp/2 = 2,250gp to craft. If a magus wants to make a minimum-level Scorching Ray wand, he has to make it at caster level 4 and it costs 2*4*750gp/2 = 3,000gp to craft. If a bloodrager wants to make a minumum-level Scorching Ray wand, she has to make it at 7th level, so it is 2*7*750gp/2 = 5,250gp to craft. The bloodrager cannot make a wand of Scorching Ray that shoots only one ray. Class matters for the minimum caster level.

The default for wands is minimum caster level, so the Wand Costs Chart has to have different prices for different classes.


Hanani wrote:
Gisher wrote:

It doesn't matter what class you are. The price is determined by the formula below.

Wands: Base price = spell level × caster level × 750 gp.
The price of a wand is equal to the level of the spell × the creator's caster level × 750 gp.
The cost to make a Wand is half of that price: (spell level) × (caster level) × 375 gp.
This is basically what confuses the ever loving crap out of me... so if I am making the want it would be less than what the Chart is telling me because the chart indicates the price of wands should you want them?

Yes. The cost to make a magic item is half the price to buy the item from someone else.

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