What alignment is my deity?


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Hey, all.
I'm playing in a homebrew game, where my Warpriest character worships a dark and mysterious deity, which I and the DM haven't fully fleshed out yet. The character hasn't been inducted formally into the faith, instead going by guesswork and scattered scraps from the cult hideouts he himself helped to purge.

A new PC with alignment detection powers joined the group recently, however, so it might become relevant very soon just where on the chart this deity is located.

"Iku-Turso is the thousand-headed dweller in the deep. Cast down by Ahto, he once set the great farms ablaze, so that a new order would rise. He is the god of violent upheaval, the cleansing flame, and rebirth from the ashes - but in new and terrible forms. Unless quenched, he would burn the world in a cycle of destruction - or so the Hierarchy says."

I took inspiration from this figure in Finnish myth, particularly the first verse quoted from the Kalevala: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iku-Turso. I'm aiming for themes of revolution and bringing down the established order through violence and skullduggery, ultimately in order to impose Tursas' own oppressive rule (as the great oak strangles the starlight). We're firmly in the Evil camp at this point, but I'm not sure where to place him on the Law-Chaos axis.


Why would you worship a deity you don't really understand?

This is a serious question, because it's not like most people start ardently worshiping something that they don't think they understand very well.

In any event, the deity you're describing is chaotic neutral (at best) but sounds more likely chaotic evil.

When you realize that law = order it becomes much more obvious what the law and chaos parts of the alignment spectrum mean.


Claxon wrote:

Why would you worship a deity you don't really understand?

This is a serious question, because it's not like most people start ardently worshiping something that they don't think they understand very well.

Because the character is very bitter towards a society and associated faith that he feels has wronged him. This deity, though mysterious, has given the character the means to strike back against perceived offences, and he has fallen to temptation.

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In any event, the deity you're describing is chaotic neutral (at best) but sounds more likely chaotic evil.

When you realize that law = order it becomes much more obvious what the law and chaos parts of the alignment spectrum mean.

I was leaning toward chaotic evil as well, but... are there examples of other CE deities that have tyranny in their portfolio? The ambition is order after all - the deity's own particular order.


I mean you can just look at Drow for examples of CE Tyranny. By being the best connected/strongest/biggest jerk around you have the right to impose your own will and whims on those below you. At least right up until some new ambitious jerk stabs you in the back/stabs you in the face/rises up/removes your power base and does the same.


I would say chaotic definitely. I would say CE but CN is definitely possible


Tarik Blackhands wrote:
I mean you can just look at Drow for examples of CE Tyranny. By being the best connected/strongest/biggest jerk around you have the right to impose your own will and whims on those below you. At least right up until some new ambitious jerk stabs you in the back/stabs you in the face/rises up/removes your power base and does the same.

Welp, I'm convinced. Cheers. :)


Very blatantly Chaotic Evil.

"Unless quenched, he would burn the world in a cycle of destruction"

Very rarely are lawful deities okay with destroying the world, I think in the Golarion setting the only 'good' deity that gets access to destruction is my avatar, Ragathiel.

Don't quote me though, I don;t know my Golarion lore as well as some of the forumgoers do.


master_marshmallow wrote:
Don't quote me though, I don;t know my Golarion lore as well as some of the forumgoers do.

I got curious and dug around a bit.

Ragathiel (LG), Vildeis (also LG), and Reymenda (CG) seem to be the only good divine sources for the destruction domain. They're all various empyreal lords.
There are plenty of neutral and countless evil sources, though.


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Rajnish Umbra, Shadow Caller wrote:
master_marshmallow wrote:
Don't quote me though, I don;t know my Golarion lore as well as some of the forumgoers do.

I got curious and dug around a bit.

Ragathiel (LG), Vildeis (also LG), and Reymenda (CG) seem to be the only good divine sources for the destruction domain. They're all various empyreal lords.
There are plenty of neutral and countless evil sources, though.

Did you just literally quote a statement that says "don't quote me"?


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Some people don't understand the importance of not being quoted.

Heathens.


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I'm chaotic, I don't care!

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