Restorative Ointment


Rules Questions


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4000gp

A jar of this unguent is 3 inches in diameter and 1 inch deep, and contains five applications.

Placed upon a poisoned wound or swallowed, the ointment detoxifies any poison (as neutralize poison with a +5 bonus on the check). Applied to a diseased area, it removes disease (as remove disease with a +5 bonus on the check). Rubbed on a wound, the ointment cures 1d8+5 points of damage (as cure light wounds).

1. Can this be used as an augmentation, when casting those particular spells, to receive the bonus?

2. If not, how is check calculated? d20 only, plus five?


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It's just a 1d20+5, yes, as if someone cast neutralize poison or remove disease with caster level 5 (the caster level of the ointment).

It can't be used to augment these spells since it doesn't call out any special exception that would allow you to do so. Hence, it defaults to an independent standard action that has no interaction with other spells cast.


Rajnish Umbra, Shadow Caller wrote:

It's just a 1d20+5, yes, as if someone cast neutralize poison or remove disease with caster level 5 (the caster level of the ointment).

It can't be used to augment these spells since it doesn't call out any special exception that would allow you to do so. Hence, it defaults to an independent standard action that has no interaction with other spells cast.

Agreed.


If an item said:

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Applied to a diseased area, it removes disease (as Remove Disease)

then we'd probably use default caster level for Remove Disease - eg, You'd roll 1d20+5 and compare it to the disease DC.

A '+5 bonus on the check' would increase that to 1d20+10.

(I suspect that probably isn't the intent, because the +5 exactly matches the caster level. On the other hand, it's an expensive item and this would make it less terrible as a purchase.)


I think if the +5 was supposed to be an additional bonus to the caster level of the item, it would spell that out and give you the total bonus.
Since it only mentions the +5 bonus for the check, that's the exact value you use for the check. That would already be my default assumption - that it exactly matches the caster level of the ointment is just an additional data point in support of it.


The ointment is a 5th level cleric in a can.

Rubbed on a wound, the ointment cures 1d8+5 points of damage (as cast by a 5th level cleric(

s neutralize poison with a +5 bonus on the check (like a 5th level cleric)

Applied to a diseased area, it removes disease as remove disease with a +5 bonus on the check (like a 5th level cleric


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Probably shouldn't have called it a bonus then. This could have been worded so much more clearly.

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