Okay I am going to DM a vampire hunter campaign on party's request. I've directed a couple of games before but I had a strict no evil rule and necromancer lines are, again, forbidden too. Now I am going to do that campaign and one of the rookie players asked me to premake a white necromancer for him.
Long story short I am very uneducated on necromancy system let alone white necromancers. Searched on interwebs but no satisfying result either. Does paizo have a companion book on white necromancy? Or a solid guide on webs?
Also question for DMs. What source do you use for visual material? Importing printed paizo products are very pricy for me and my games are mostly homebrewn otger than a few lore things so it is much less effective to to print and use material from pdfs. I lack required artistic talent to draw my own material either.
Thank you in advance my fellow wizards.
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White necromancer rules I was able to find here but it is third party. That said, you don't have to be Evil to cast evil spells unless you're a cleric/warpriest/paladin/etc..
You're doing something Evil when you raise undead, but if your intentions are good and you are solving the world's problems or helping those that are, you're probably at least neutral.
On visuals:
I tend to build/paint models. This isn't cheap either, but it's a hobby I enjoy and half the reason I GM really. So rather than artwork, people see the gribbly on the battle map. Unsure if that's what you mean.
I also will sometimes do mechanical puzzles or cut shapes for puzzles. That kind of thing. You can always spin your laptop around and show them a picture of the thing you want. When it comes to the puzzles/shapes, it's normally paper and I design the puzzle around how I will have them mechanically solve it so that paper is an adequate medium.
White necromancer? Do you mean one who specializes in the necromancy school or one who specializes in creation of undead? Necromancy is a wide reaching school with plenty of cool debuffs and a few nice buffs. It is very well possible to make a "necromancer" that doesn't raise undead. Now raising undead is another matter. It ultimately comes down to you as a DM to decide whether raising the dead is inherently evil. As far as I know paizo has taken a hard line on animating corpses is evil. They did however make 2 ways to be a undead minionmancer without using evil spells. Firstly there is occultist. Their necromancy school powers includes temporary undead mooks without the evil part. A silksworn occultist with mage's panopoly is one of my favorite necromancer builds. The other one is the significantly more questionable method of using the story feat "Wretched Curator" to remove the evil tag. Problem is that you kinda have to be quite evil to get that particular benefit. Also your still kind of doing the exact same thing its just not evil by RAW. At least it works well for a redemption story
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You might find THIS of interest :)
The class is also one of the 12 new classes featured in the New Paths Compendium hardcover which releases in just a few weeks!
There's also the Hallowed Necromancer archetype for wizard.
I tend to say that a necromancer who scavenges for already extant undead with the Command Undead feat could be solidly Neutral, and using the Command Undead spell should be allowed for a Good character. I do wish they didn't have the same name. We have a neutral necromancer who coexists with a paladin who just asks that we dispose of our scavenged undead respectfully after getting some use out of them.
Animate Dead and equivalent, probably you'd need consent from the donor for it to be non-evil in my game. Edit: and it'd just be out of the question in many games.
I'd make a neutral, negative channeling cleric with the Command Undead feat for starters, with some charisma to help it stick. Ours follows Nethys.
I've kicked around the idea of a white necromancer on occasion, but never in great depth. As has been pointed out by Dastis, not all necromancers need to focus on creating undead. There are many spells of the necromancy school that destroy undead.
I'd go with a wizard necromancer that is opposed to undead for whatever reason is most enjoyable to the player, who learned necromancy to hunt down necromancers and destroy the undead with the undead destroying magic in necromancy. There are other spells in the necromancy school that are good debuffs, and even buffs (like false life), and anti undead utility like hide from undead.
A bones oracle would work well as a divine spontaneous caster that would be interesting to see a strongly anti undead character have necromancy powers thrust onto them.
I've kicked around the idea of a white necromancer on occasion, but never in great depth. As has been pointed out by Dastis, not all necromancers need to focus on creating undead. There are many spells of the necromancy school that destroy undead.
I'd go with a wizard necromancer that is opposed to undead for whatever reason is most enjoyable to the player, who learned necromancy to hunt down necromancers and destroy the undead with the undead destroying magic in necromancy. There are other spells in the necromancy school that are good debuffs, and even buffs (like false life), and anti undead utility like hide from undead.
A bones oracle would work well as a divine spontaneous caster that would be interesting to see a strongly anti undead character have necromancy powers thrust onto them.
You would certainly like the hallowed necromancer then.
You would certainly like the hallowed necromancer then.I've kicked around the idea of a white necromancer on occasion, but never in great depth. As has been pointed out by Dastis, not all necromancers need to focus on creating undead. There are many spells of the necromancy school that destroy undead.
I'd go with a wizard necromancer that is opposed to undead for whatever reason is most enjoyable to the player, who learned necromancy to hunt down necromancers and destroy the undead with the undead destroying magic in necromancy. There are other spells in the necromancy school that are good debuffs, and even buffs (like false life), and anti undead utility like hide from undead.
A bones oracle would work well as a divine spontaneous caster that would be interesting to see a strongly anti undead character have necromancy powers thrust onto them.
You're right! :) Thank you for providing the link, I saw that you mentioned this earlier, but I hadn't looked it up.
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You might find THIS of interest :)
The class is also one of the 12 new classes featured in the New Paths Compendium hardcover which releases in just a few weeks!
Quick follow up - the New Paths Compendium is now available for preorder!
It will also be available in a few weeks right here through Paizo.com as well!