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Barbarians, Archetype highlights, and Rage Powers


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I was looking at some Barbarian archetypes the other day, and I realized that some rage powers have some odd effects on them, and was wondering how they would work with some of their key features.

Take the Titan Mauler, for instance. Kind of crappy, wasted potential, >-6 attack, that sort of thing. But then you look at the Elephant Totem Rage Power, from Heroes of the Jade Oath.

Elephant Totem
While raging, the barbarian functions as if he was one size category larger in the following ways: he gains a +1 size modifier to his Combat Maneuver Bonus and Combat Maneuver Defense, he is considered one size larger when determining whether a creature’s special attacks based on size (such as improved grab or swallow whole) can affect him, and he can use weapons designed for a creature one size larger without penalty. However, his space and reach remain those of a creature of his actual size. The benefits of this rage power stack with the effects of powers, abilities and spells that change the subject’s size category. A barbarian must have the lesser elephant totem rage power to select this rage power. A barbarian must be at least 6th level to select this rage power.

How does that work with Jotungrip or Massive Weapons? Does this mean a Dorf can lug around a huge-sized pickaxe? On that note, can he only use the huge pickaxe when he's raging? Would this also effect your ability to throw rocks at people, or people at other people?

Secondly, the Wild Rager has a feature where, after killing someone, he has to make a save or become confused, which becomes harder the further you level up. Now, there's another totem in Jade Oath, the Mantis Totem.

Mantis Totem, Greater
When raging, your desire to kill is single-minded. You are immune to all mind-effects.

How would that tie in to the Wild Rager's confusion?

Silver Crusade

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Flagged to be moved to the 3pp forums as Heroes of the Jade Oath isn’t a Paizo product.

For the first one, I believe so. Believe so. Yes. It would increase how big those things they can grow I believe.

For the second I don’t believe so. Confusion from the Wild Rager ability, while a mental effect, isn’t a Mind Affecting Effect. Confusion from the spell would be blocked though (I’m assuming it says Mind Affecting Effect and not just “Mind effects”).


Rysky wrote:

Flagged to be moved to the 3pp forums as Heroes of the Jade Oath isn’t a Paizo product.

For the first one, I believe so. Believe so. Yes. It would increase how big those things they can grow I believe.

For the second I don’t believe so. Confusion from the Wild Rager ability, while a mental effect, isn’t a Mind Affecting Effect. Confusion from the spell would be blocked though (I’m assuming it says Mind Affecting Effect and not just “Mind effects”).

Truth be told, I'm actually away from my computer right now. What I wrote for Mantis Totem isn't the exact wording. If youyou have it on you, could I get an exact description?

E: wait, I do need to be raging to be able to use a huge weapon? Dang, that's rough on me. But another question, following the line of logic. Can I wield a large two-handed weapon in one hand with elephant and Jotungrip?

Silver Crusade

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I don’t have that supplement, sorry.

And possibly.

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