I see that some people derive them from information about their God; and if that's the best answer I get then that's fine. But many of the gods, Arete for example basically just says "Tireless foe of <evil stuff>"
Thanks Arete. Thanks for nothing.
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So directing me to what books have codes, or example codes, or something.. these would all be great answers. Thank you for any assistance!
[Also-> Pasting codes of conduct would also be neat. I'm in the midst of trying to build one for a player or three, and if I had several examples I could mix and match a bit.]
Well, Arete is 3rd party stuff. So you should really ignore it if you're asking rules questions here. Plus this seems more like a general discussion topic (or maybe homebrew if you're wanting to create your own codes) because there doesn't appear to be a mechanical issue you're struggling with.
On topic, as for codes, I'm not really sure which books they're from (it doesn't come up much). I don't believe paladins actually have to follow a deity, but those that choose to have the choice of following a handful of LG deities that add to their restrictions. I usually just search the deity name in archives of nethys and scroll down to see if they have a special paladin code. (For example I'm just reading erastil's right now) If you're looking for more, go to that site and navigate to deities, then browse the LG deities, chances are a number of them will have specific codes.
"A paladin must be of lawful good alignment and loses all class features except proficiencies if she ever willingly commits an evil act.
Additionally, a paladin’s code requires that she respect legitimate authority, act with honor (not lying, not cheating, not using poison, and so forth), help those in need (provided they do not use the help for evil or chaotic ends), and punish those who harm or threaten innocents.
Associates: While she may adventure with good or neutral allies, a paladin avoids working with evil characters or with anyone who consistently offends her moral code. Under exceptional circumstances, a paladin can ally with evil associates, but only to defeat what she believes to be a greater evil. A paladin should seek an atonement spell periodically during such an unusual alliance, and should end the alliance immediately should she feel it is doing more harm than good. A paladin may accept only henchmen, followers, or cohorts who are lawful good.
1) Remember that paladins all follow the core code. The specific god ones are supplemental / informative. (For example, a paladin of Abadar would definitely be against going all john brown on slavers, a paladin of saranrae might overlook it a time or two)
2) If you look up a deity on Archives of nethys you can see their paladin codes.
Well, Arete is 3rd party stuff. So you should really ignore it if you're asking rules questions here. Plus this seems more like a general discussion topic (or maybe homebrew if you're wanting to create your own codes) because there doesn't appear to be a mechanical issue you're struggling with.
I wasn't sure if it was technically rules; since I'm attempting to find the rules or asking if they existed. Since there's a generic code of conduct, I wasn't sure if there were specific ones in the actual rules. I can see posting it elsewhere; but it does have a hidden rules question:
"Can a Paladin fall if he acts within his Code of Conduct but against his God, or vice versa." If the deities have specific Codes (which they seem to) then that answer is a firm "No." Otherwise there'd be a contradiction in the rules and the fluff they were made for, requiring (minor) arbitration.
Anyway, Thanks all! I'll check out those books and Nethys
Not true. The deity specific codes are replacement codes, not supplemental.
However, paladins of individual faiths live by additional strictures, and draw
on specific codes to seal their bonds with their gods—those who violate the codes of their faiths must atone
for their deeds or lose their powers. Presented below
are brief descriptions of paladins from the individual
faiths of purity, as well as the deity-specific tenets of
their codes.
Faiths of purity, page 26. emphasis mine.
They are additional.
Against my people’s enemies, I will show no mercy. I will not allow their surrender, except when strategy warrants. I will defeat them, yet even in the direst struggle, I will act in a way that brings honor to Torag.
Which means that the paladin clearly announces before hand that there is no surrender, reminds them in battle that there is no surrender by running up a red flag or the like. The paladin isn't refusing to accept surrender. There is no surrender.
Honestly i have yet to play with a GM that doesnt swap them, it is completely ilogical to me.
With this said, there are PLENTY of gods that are talked about, but never expanded on, this mean they exist, but they dont have extra code lines.
Assuming for some reason the GM does say the codes must be added, simply pick one of these that dont have any extra code by RAW to add at all and follow only the core one. This will circunvent the issue by costing only deity specific stuff.
They are additional.
I recognise that the book does say it's additional and you are correct (I thought they were additional too, so it's good to have confirmation.)... But doesn't that make worshipping one of these deities a strait downgrade for the paladin who already has to adhere to sure a strict code? What's the benefit to the additional restrictions?
Seems to be saying "if you fall over I will shoot you... but if you stand on one leg, you'll be more likely to fall over, and i'll still shoot you."
If you're asking whats in it for me, you have already failed the test to play a paladin.
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I would argue that the addon codes are explanations, rather than replacements.
core rule book:
Additionally, a paladin's code requires that she respect legitimate authority, act with honor (not lying, not cheating, not using poison, and so forth), help those in need (provided they do not use the help for evil or chaotic ends), and punish those who harm or threaten innocents.
The deity specific codes explain what that paladin's deity believes to be a fulfillment of the code. It replaces the part in parenthesis, which is just meant to be the default explanation of what acting with honor means.