Downtime, Magic Capital, and Item creation / spell component costs


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Ok, the downtime rules in ultimate campaign allow you to generate capital, and pay the "earned cost" of 1/2 of it's "purchased cost" to realize it's potential, and use that purchased cost for various activities.

Magic capital has a purchased cost of 100gp. You can use it for for magic item crafting (and other things, for example, spell research).

Goods capital has a purchase costs of 20 gp. Goods capital may be used for the raw material of mundane crafting.

However, there are items, which have a material component cost associated with them. some examples, a Iron Golem with it's 10000gp of "rare tinctures" or a scroll of raise dead, needing a 5000 gp diamond. Can you use magic or goods capital to pay these costs?

Further, there are spells you might cast in downtime with expensive components, for example, a permanent enlarge person (2500 gp) or symbol of healing (10500 gp). Can you use magic or goods capital to pay these costs?


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Pure RAW: Yep, you can spend magic capital against expensive components for crafting magic items. And no, you can't use magic capital for casting spells with expensive components (goods capital is not relevant to this at all).

It's not a bad idea to house-rule it as a new downtime activity, though (just make sure it takes at least a whole downtime day regardless of the casting time of the spell).


Chemlak wrote:

Pure RAW: Yep, you can spend magic capital against expensive components for crafting magic items. And no, you can't use magic capital for casting spells with expensive components (goods capital is not relevant to this at all).

It's not a bad idea to house-rule it as a new downtime activity, though (just make sure it takes at least a whole downtime day regardless of the casting time of the spell).

So, if you have magic capital, it is functionally cheaper to scribe a scroll of Raise Dead, than it is to cast raise dead directly (because you can buy the diamond at 1/2 price, [12.5*CL*5 + 2500] < 5000 ).

That seems a bit odd...


pad300 wrote:
Chemlak wrote:

Pure RAW: Yep, you can spend magic capital against expensive components for crafting magic items. And no, you can't use magic capital for casting spells with expensive components (goods capital is not relevant to this at all).

It's not a bad idea to house-rule it as a new downtime activity, though (just make sure it takes at least a whole downtime day regardless of the casting time of the spell).

So, if you have magic capital, it is functionally cheaper to scribe a scroll of Raise Dead, than it is to cast raise dead directly (because you can buy the diamond at 1/2 price, [12.5*CL*5 + 2500] < 5000 ).

That seems a bit odd...

OTOH, now you know how vendors make a profit on selling diamonds to adventurers.

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