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What other Paizo NPCs have the Divine Source Mythic Ability?


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I know there's Walkena from Undead Unleashed, and the two hero-gods from Distant Shores.

Are there any others?

Or any other form of Quasi-deities. (Deities that grant 3 or less domains)


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I don't have the book with me, but there is a Petrified Leng Spider that acts as a divine source in the module House on Hook Street.


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Arazni from Mythic Realms has Divine Source.

(Deities that grant 4 domains are still quasi-deities if they're CR 25 or less. So nascent demon lords and daemonic harbingers are quasi-deities.)


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Never heard of the Leng Spider, I'll have to see if my friend has that module for me to read it.

Zhangar wrote:
(Deities that grant 4 domains are still quasi-deities if they're CR 25 or less. So nascent demon lords and daemonic harbingers are quasi-deities.)

Wait. So then is there any name distinction between a >4 domain deity and a 4 domain deity if quasi-deity isn't the exact right term.

Mythic divine sources?


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Like all glaistigs, Gwendowyn (AP #119, "Prisoners of the Blight"), the fey ruler of Fangwood Forest, has the divine source mythic ability.

Although only presented as an option for continuing the Ironfang Invasion campaign, Argwyn (AP #120, "Vault of the Onyx Citadel"), the blighted glaistig "daughter" of Arlantia and Gwendowyn, also has the divine source mythic ability.

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Alzrius wrote:

Like all glaistigs, Gwendowyn (AP #119, "Prisoners of the Blight"), the fey ruler of Fangwood Forest, has the divine source mythic ability.

Although only presented as an option for continuing the Ironfang Invasion campaign, Argwyn (AP #120, "Vault of the Onyx Citadel"), the blighted glaistig "daughter" of Arlantia and Gwendowyn, also has the divine source mythic ability.

The PRD didn't give any domains, so I take it that Glastigs provide different domains per individual?


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Laird IceCubez wrote:
Alzrius wrote:

Like all glaistigs, Gwendowyn (AP #119, "Prisoners of the Blight"), the fey ruler of Fangwood Forest, has the divine source mythic ability.

Although only presented as an option for continuing the Ironfang Invasion campaign, Argwyn (AP #120, "Vault of the Onyx Citadel"), the blighted glaistig "daughter" of Arlantia and Gwendowyn, also has the divine source mythic ability.

The PRD didn't give any domains, so I take it that Glastigs provide different domains per individual?

Probably. Green Men certainly do.


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Laird IceCubez wrote:
Never heard of the Leng Spider, I'll have to see if my friend has that module for me to read it.

I'm home and can check the book now. The spider's name is Mog-Lathar, can grant spells up to the 5th level, and offers the Chaos, Evil, and Trickery domains. Actually, Archives of Nethys has the full description of the idol.


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Laird IceCubez wrote:

Never heard of the Leng Spider, I'll have to see if my friend has that module for me to read it.

Zhangar wrote:
(Deities that grant 4 domains are still quasi-deities if they're CR 25 or less. So nascent demon lords and daemonic harbingers are quasi-deities.)

Wait. So then is there any name distinction between a >4 domain deity and a 4 domain deity if quasi-deity isn't the exact right term.

Mythic divine sources?

5 domain deities are true gods, like Pharasma and Asmodeus.

CR 25 or lower creatures with 4 or less domain are quasi-deities (divine source mythic characters).

CR 26-30 creatures with 4 domains are demi-deities.

Most but not all demi-deities have the ability to maintain a divine realm. (Great Old Ones are a notable exception, and of course some demi-deities like Vildeis simply forsake having a domain).

But the line between quasi-deity and demi-deity is pretty thin. I'd say a creatures with less than 4 domains is a quasi-deity, no matter how strong it is.

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In the case of these creatures with mythic divine source, do they grant a deity's favored weapon?


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Laird IceCubez wrote:
In the case of these creatures with mythic divine source, do they grant a deity's favored weapon?

I forget where it is, but there was a developer comment that the divine source mythic ability should grant a favored weapon. RAW, the ability itself does not grant worshippers a favored weapon.

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Dryad Knotwood wrote:
I forget where it is, but there was a developer comment that the divine source mythic ability should grant a favored weapon. RAW, the ability itself does not grant worshippers a favored weapon.

I wonder where did the Pathfinder Wiki get that Walkena's favored weapon was a spear. Was it just cause that was the weapon he happened to be wielding?

For the Distant Shores hero-gods, they had a deity entry for them showing their favored weapon if I recall.

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Alzrius wrote:
Although only presented as an option for continuing the Ironfang Invasion campaign, Argwyn (AP #120, "Vault of the Onyx Citadel"), the blighted glaistig "daughter" of Arlantia and Gwendowyn, also has the divine source mythic ability.

Argh, it doesn't say what domains Argwyn gives.

EDIT: So what other creatures have the Deific SQ other than Conqueror Worms, Deep One Hybrids, Glastigs and Green Men?

EDIT2: I take it that Mog-Lathar is the only Paizo made Idol so far that grants spells.


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Elder Deep one (B4), a CR14 creature, also has the "Deific" ability that allows it to grant 4 domains.

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Laird IceCubez wrote:
I wonder where did the Pathfinder Wiki get that Walkena's favored weapon was a spear. Was it just cause that was the weapon he happened to be wielding?

It's in the last paragraph before the statblock on page 57.


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Sauce987654321 wrote:
Elder Deep one (B4), a CR14 creature, also has the "Deific" ability that allows it to grant 4 domains.

Sorry, Elder Deep ones are in Bestiary 5, not 4. Silly me thinking that they were in the same book as Cthulhu.

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Adam Daigle wrote:
It's in the last paragraph before the statblock on page 57.

Oh.

Well s&%!. I'm blind.

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Dryad Knotwood wrote:
Laird IceCubez wrote:
In the case of these creatures with mythic divine source, do they grant a deity's favored weapon?
I forget where it is, but there was a developer comment that the divine source mythic ability should grant a favored weapon. RAW, the ability itself does not grant worshippers a favored weapon.

Granting a favored weapon has at least been the assumption I've worked with for Iblydos and its hero-gods, as a favored weapon is one more interesting way of conveying flavor for clerics and inquisitors.

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So far it's only Gendowyn and Mog-Lathar who lack a favored weapon.

(Well, and Argwyn, but she lacks domains to begin with.)

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Laird IceCubez wrote:

So far it's only Gendowyn and Mog-Lathar who lack a favored weapon.

(Well, and Argwyn, but she lacks domains to begin with.)

While Mog-Lathar is certainly a special case (being an idol and all), I could see the spider leg sickles that the Brotherhood carries being a "favored weapon."

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Sorry to necropost, but I just discovered Hellion from Iron Gods. He counts too right?

Adam Daigle wrote:

While Mog-Lathar is

certainly a special case (being an idol and all), I could see the spider leg sickles that the Brotherhood carries being a "favored weapon."

Is this now considered canon since you said so. :P

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Isn't it demigods and not demideities?

Anyhoo, posted about idols before, but noticed they were already mentioned <_<

Also, if you mention Iron Gods, don't forget about the other one either.


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Silver Crusade

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CorvusMask wrote:

Isn't it demigods and not demideities?

Anyhoo, posted about idols before, but noticed they were already mentioned <_<

Also, if you mention Iron Gods, don't forget about the other one either.

I mean, yeah the normal wording is demigod, though I find it funny that the different terms goes as true deities, demigods and then quasi-deities.

Also yeah, there's the other two, however there don't have domains or favored weapons. @.@

But for completeness sakes, their names are Casandalee and Unity.

I don't suppose anyone knows any other creatures that give spells, maybe through the deific Special Quality or by being Idols. I can post my list of deities I've compiled if anyone wants that.

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Laird IceCubez wrote:

Sorry to necropost, but I just discovered Hellion from Iron Gods. He counts too right?

Adam Daigle wrote:

While Mog-Lathar is

certainly a special case (being an idol and all), I could see the spider leg sickles that the Brotherhood carries being a "favored weapon."
Is this now considered canon since you said so. :P

Nothing's canon until it's in a book (or PDF). :D

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Adam Daigle wrote:
Nothing's canon until it's in a book (or PDF). :D

...or a blog post. What's the use of power and authority if you don't abuse it! >:D

Does the author of The House on Hook Street (Brandom Hodge) have a forum account?

Or Amanda Hamon Kunz, she wrote Prisoners of the Blight, maybe I could get the favored weapons from them.

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