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Interest Check - Various non Paizo systems / settings


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I need a break from PF for a bit, and one of my games just ended, so I'm doing an interest check. What would people be interested in?

1) Star Trek (FASA d100 version) Very old 1990's game (very good)
2) Star Wars (d20 Revised, not Saga)
3) Traveller (Classic) Old School!
4) BESM (Never ran it before, but looks easy)
5) Mechwarrior/Battletech

I do not promise to run the most popular, I do promise to seriously consider it. I may run something else, or I may pick the one that has the loudest cheerleaders.

I have 2-3 players from my previous game who are interested, and they will get first choice if I run something, so I'd be recruiting for the additional open slots. I generally take 5 or 6 players when I run a new game. I will not be doing two tables this time, my work is too full right now. However, I will be taking people who aren't chosen and putting them in the campaign tab so I can PM them if an opening occurs.

Anyway, interest up, go squabble and argue systems while I sit back and cackle.


I'm potentially interested in Star Trek depending on what era it is and what the premise is like. Same goes for Star Wars.


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Open on it, but the old D100 is TOS before it was called The Original Series (because it came out before TNG did!). It'd probably be something along the lines of a crew on a small exploration/rapid response vessel like a Constellation class or Miranda class (25 to 40 crew).


Ooooooh ooh OOOOOH I'm so interested in Traveller! I played it for a few sessions many years ago and couldn't get enough. Would greatly appreciate a PM if you decide to open a recruitment for that one so I don't miss it! ^__^


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I'll try to remember


All of the above. For the BT side, what time era and rules set would you be looking at? Age of War, Star League, Succession Wars, Clan Invasion, FedCom breakup and Civil War, the Jihad, Republic Era, Dark Ages? Catalyst released a new set of roleplaying rules back in 2009. MechWarrior 3.0 was released in 1999 and then reprinted in 2007 by FanPro. The same question also exists for Star Wars. Old Republic, Galatic Empire, post Empire, Legends or new timeline?


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BT : I don't have 3rd edition, just 2nd edition, on the MW side. Timeline probably won't matter, If I do battle tech, I'll probably pick something that's easy on new people to the system that won't require them to know the time line or have all the books. If I go for any specific campaign, then everyone has to have the books or I have to do a lot of copy/paste.

For Star Wars, it would likely be Legends/Post Empire or Old Republic.


Order of Preference: BESM, Traveler, Star Wars, Battletech, Star Trek. If you were going to run another Heroes game I'd be all over that above the others, but I also know that one Heroes game is brain-breaking to DM.

I really enjoy systems that allow things to be more openly built (so I really love your game in the Heroes system, even if I keep choosing things that aren't particularly useful to spend my xp on :P). I also really like xd6 games as they tend to have nice curves on 'average result' being weighed more heavily than the edges.

I'm a little afraid of established universes as I'm mostly going in blind. But universes that are only really in the DM's head, I love. I know that the best place to learn about the universe is from people who love it, so I didn't weight that too heavily in my desires.

I think the genre and subgenre involved play the biggest role in my interest in the game though. :)


Oh my. Battletech and Traveller. I haven't played either of those in many years. They were all sorts of awesome. Definite interest here.


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Ok, so some concepts :

Star Trek : The PC's are crew members on the USS Hamilton, a small Loknar class exploration vessel. The PCs will not be the command staff (unlike the show, real Starfleet frowns on the senior officers going off ship at every alien port of call). The PCs will be Executive Department Heads (That is, second in command of their various departments, so not the Chief Medical Officer but the Executive Medical Officer, etc). The time period will be TOS, but in the reboot universe (not that this makes any difference, the only thing it affects is that you'll hear about Kirk getting the Enterprise blown up multiple times, seriously, why do they keep giving him a ship, he blows it up every other year). If/When starship combat occurs, the players will control the various aspects (power allocation, maneuvering, weapons fire, damage control) based on how they choose to divy up the duties, even if the PCs aren't bridge crew themselves.

Star Wars : Game will use the d20 Revised Core rules (the ones I have), but will be set in the Old Republic time (about 100 years before Episode I, which means none of the movie characters are around except maybe Yoda as a Padawan or something). The PCs will start out as passengers on a Republic Starliner that becomes lost after a navigation incident. They will find themselves stranded, to start, and need to find a way to rescue themselves. This could end up as a TPK if they fail, or with them becoming a tested crew with a salvaged ship. Futher adventures will ensue.

Traveller : Game will use the Traveller Classic rules (black book). Similar to the Star Wars game, the group will be travelling on a Starliner that has an accident, and will need to rescue themselves. Again, either ends in a TPK or with the group ending up salvaging a ship and continuing from there.

BESM : Probably the most out there game. The title is : Everything was perfectly fine, until someone broke the moon and now I can't get a girl/boyfriend! 10 years ago, the world was humming right along, and then the moon cracked in half, meteorites started hitting the world at random, bug-eyed monsters in giant machines invaded Australia, a 14yo boy busted down the doors to the Royal Palace in London and claimed the throne as he had pulled Excaliber from the stone, a giant lizard turned Tokyo into a blasted radiation soaked crater, some blonde haired guy fought a giant snake in Denmark and sank it (Denmark, not the snake!), and the Atlantian's are back and they want 2000 years of back-pay for using their ocean to move cargo plus cleanup costs for all the garbage we dumped in the ocean. The PCs start out as high school students (15 to 17) at the Wacross Academy, a private academy funded by the richest people in the world as an effort to DO SOMETHING since the governments can't seem to do anything. Each student must have one FACT that makes them unusual (Fact : I have a demon living in my left eye. Fact : I was hit by asteroid and I didnt' feel it. Fact : I'm the only surviving member of my family after the Egyptian Mummy's all woke up and killed everyone who ever touched a sarcophagus and all their descendants, except me. as examples). Each character will have a Mecha built from stolen alien tech that is tailored to them and their Fact (No more than a level 4 mech, unless the mech can only be level 3 unless you go berserker adn then goes to 5, but you are as likely to attack your allies as your enemies).

Mechwarrior/Battletech : Similar to the Star Wars and Traveller scenario, the group will start out as passengers on a ship, and have to rescue themselves, find mechs and ships, etc.


Yep, interested in Star Trek or Star Wars for sure.


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Running Totals :

First choice : 5 pts
Second Choice : 3 pts
Third Choice : 1 pt
All other choices : 0.25 pts

Choices given equal weight give points equal to one level lower

YoricksRequiem : Star Trek/Star Wars
AriaRin : Traveller
Stormcrow : Anything not Pathfinder (paraphrase)
Hotaru : BESM, Traveler, Star Wars, Battletech, Star Trek
CucumberTree : Battletech/Traveller

BattleTech/Mechwarrior : 3.25 pts
BESM : 5 pts
Traveller : 11 pts
Star Trek : 3.25 pts
Star Wars : 4 pts

Traveller has an early lead, but it's anybody's race so far, especially since the potential GM has a sniper rifle ready to shoot anything he decides shouldn't win. :)


well then...what is your preferred game, GM? Seems to me you should get a vote as well


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If I had a preferred one currently, I'd just run a recruitment for that. :)

Part of this interest check is to see not only what more people vote on, but also what receives the most excitement.

For example, if I were going to buy fruit for my gaming group, and I got the following votes :

P1 : Apples/Oranges
P2 : Bananas
P3 : Bananas, Apples, Oranges
P4 : Kiwi, Bananas, Apples
P5 : Dragon Fruit, Pineapple, Apples

Looking at the points, Bananas wins.

However, Apples had a strong showing. If the group got into a 15 minute argument over which apples were the best apples, and nobody really discussed bananas other than voting for them, I would go get 4-5 different types of apples for the next game, so people could try them all out. Not because Apples won, but because apples while not the most popular, had the most enthusiasm for it.

Finally, depending on what people comment on in the thread, someone may say something that triggers something in me that gives me a feeling 'YAY FOR THAT' or 'UGH, THAT GOT DROPPED'.


BESM, Traveler, Star Wars. Definitely. BESM sounds so amazing when read out loud in the middle of a crowded cafeteria. I needs it.


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So, in other words, your previous vote stands, Hotaru-face? :)


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Reserve the right to change the starship for Star Wars, if it wins, there's a couple of very small scout ships with 5 and 7 man crews, which might server better.


So in the spirit of being an advocate for my choices:

While I like the Star Trek and Star Wars universes, I'm not familiar with their systems. Plus I like to imagine what things should look and feel like, but pop culture has already filled in many of those gaps.

BattleTech has a gritty feel that I like when facing futuristic battle. I like the political intrigue and pure danger of it.

Traveller is an even a more open framework for imagining, and can turn into combined effort to fill in some of those blank spaces. Which is far more interesting for me personally.


Starwars, Star Trek, Mechwarrior, Traveller all get equal votes from me, with Starwars getting a bit more love.

Don't know anything about BESM. Quite like Anime/Manga , not sure I'd like to RP in that milieu tho.


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Running Totals :

First choice : 5 pts
Second Choice : 3 pts
Third Choice : 1 pt
All other choices : 0.25 pts

Choices given equal weight give points equal to one level lower

YoricksRequiem : Star Trek/Star Wars
AriaRin : Traveller
Stormcrow : Anything not Pathfinder (paraphrase)
Hotaru : BESM, Traveler, Star Wars, Battletech, Star Trek
CucumberTree : Battletech/Traveller
Spazmodeus : Star Wars, Star Trek/Mechwarrior/Traveller
Trawetz71 : Maybe Traveler (From another thread, should be by shortly, not counting vote yet)
Lessah : Interest in everything but BESM, tbd exact order (from another thread, should stop by shortly)

BattleTech/Mechwarrior : 4.25 pts
BESM : 5 pts
Traveller : 12 pts
Star Trek : 4.25 pts
Star Wars : 9 pts

Liberty's Edge

Well I guess I will throw my 2 cents into the mix

1. Traveller
2. Battletech
3. Star Wars
4. Star Trek
5. BDSM


Pretty much, yeah, Kitty. Just -Star Trek, cause it's just not my jam!


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Uhm, Daniel, your #5 choice is not allowed by the Paizo forum rules...


1.BESM this sounds like a good way to play a anime character I have been wanting to play but can't quite fit into pathfinder rules. Abc I really want to play this, I spent the past half hour thinking up a character concept!


Including mine and Daniels

BattleTech/Mechwarrior: 7.25 pts
BESM: 10.25 pts
Traveller: 17 pts
Star Trek: 4.25 pts
Star Wars: 10.25 pts


mdt wrote:
Uhm, Daniel, your #5 choice is not allowed by the Paizo forum rules...

That sir is subtle yet hilarious! I was laughing so loud it woke my family up. Since it is 5am it was not appreciated. Anyway, let me put some thought into it and I'll vote in a bit.


Yeah, but it was a pretty good FACT. Just saying...


Can you elaborate more on your BESM setting?


I'd love to play Classic Traveller. I have almost all the books, I think. I'd prefer to play a Vargr if that is allowed.

I also wouldn't mind trying the Star Wars D20, and maybe the Star Trek game, but I own neither rule system and would not know where to look for the rules. So I'd need some help with that but if the rules are online I would not have a problem overall.

I have played the SWKOTOR computer game, which I understand is based on the Star Wars d20 system.

So my votes would be:

1. Classic Traveller
2. Star Wars d20
3. Star Trek
No particular interest in the other games.


Here are my votes:

1. Traveller (I can find the rule book)
2. Star Wars (Jedi's Rock)
3. Star Trek (Kirk out)
4. BT/MT (playing a mech pilot sounds fun)
5. BESM (I got nothing)

I think the traveller rules and universe would be the best fit for what you have in mind with solid mechanics that will transfer well to pbp. The universe is more of a blank slate and we won't have to waste a lot of time arguing with fan boy/girls about history/accuracy/play style (I've seen this destroy games) that come with the Star Wars /Trek universes. Plus, Traveller has a pretty cool character building process. Just my thoughts.


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But... but... you could be a Jedi Batman Knight of the Cross in BESM. How can you have nothing?

How will I play a 'Secretly a hivemind collective of psionic squirrels' and pilot hundreds of tiny battlemechs simultaneously as a mecha swarm in any other system? :(


Hmm hmm. I think I'll have to slot in Star Wars as my first pick. I do love me some space fantasy!

Then I'm not sure. Probably BT second since I'm curious, but yeah - not sure.

BESM do sound fun. But maybe Star Trek? Ehm I'll think about it!


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Running Totals :

First choice : 5 pts
Second Choice : 3 pts
Third Choice : 1 pt
All other choices : 0.25 pts

Choices given equal weight give points equal to one level lower

YoricksRequiem : Star Trek/Star Wars
AriaRin : Traveller
Stormcrow : Anything not Pathfinder (paraphrase)
Hotaru : BESM, Traveler, Star Wars, Battletech, Star Trek
CucumberTree : Battletech/Traveller
Spazmodeus : Star Wars, Star Trek/Mechwarrior/Traveller
Daniel Stewart : Traveller, Battletech, Star Wars, Star Trek, *BLEEP*
Ancient Dragon Master : BESM
Peet : Traveller, Star Wars, Star Trek
Chobo : Traveller, Star Wars, Star Trek, BattleTech, BESM
Lessah : Traveller, Uhm, er, uhm, uhm, maybe, uhm, brb...
Trawetz71 : Maybe Traveler (From another thread, should be by shortly, not counting vote yet)

BattleTech/Mechwarrior : 7.5 pts
BESM : 10.5 pts
Traveller : 32 pts
Star Trek : 6.5 pts
Star Wars : 16 pts

Honestly, it's looking like Star Trek and Battle Tech are not getting much love. Star Wars and BESM seem to be about the same, and Traveller seems to be very popular, which is kind of ironic considering it's the oldest system on the list. I'll leave it up over the weekend, but unless something drastically changes, it's looking like Traveller is hands down the thing people are excited about.


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Ancient Dragon Master wrote:
Can you elaborate more on your BESM setting?

LOL, not really? As I stated, I've not run the system before, so it'd basically be a big mashup of the types of Anime I like. If you're curious what I like though...

Bleach
Magic School Irregulars
The World's Mightiest Disciple
Ghost in the Shell (All versions, including Arise)
Princess Mononoki
Cowboy Bebop
Trigun
Angel Beats!
Ruroni Kenchen
Gate!
Naruto (Not Shippuden)
Howl's Moving Castle (May be off, it's early)
Gundam Wing
Yu Yu Hakesho
Rosario+ Vampire
Blue Exorcist
Mobile Suit Gundam SEED
Valvrave the Liberator
Robotech
KK
Last Exile

Just a sampling, not all.


Don't know much about BESM, but I'd like to give it a shot. SW sounds interesting, but it's old d20, so I'm not sure. Not interested in Star Trek.

Can you sum up the mechanics of Mechwarrior/Battletech and Traveller?

For now, votes:
1. BESM
2. Star Wars.


Allow me to throw in my Vote for BESM. I can't claim to be too familiar with i, bu it sounds like so much fun, to say nothing of the potential for unique character concepts.
See: Squirrel Hivemind.
Mechwarrior/Battletech has my curiosity as well, but after that, I don't have any particularly strong preferences.

So that works out to:

1: BESM
2: Mechwarrior/Battletech
3: Traveller/Star Wars/Star Trek


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MW/BT is all D6 rolls, mostly 2d6 rolls. Traveller is also 2d6. Both game systems are very similar, due to MW being loosely built around the same concept of careers and 2d6 random rolls.


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Running Totals :

First choice : 5 pts
Second Choice : 3 pts
Third Choice : 1 pt
All other choices : 0.25 pts

Choices given equal weight give points equal to one level lower

YoricksRequiem : Star Trek/Star Wars
AriaRin : Traveller
Stormcrow : Anything not Pathfinder (paraphrase)
Hotaru : BESM, Traveler, Star Wars, Battletech, Star Trek
CucumberTree : Battletech/Traveller
Spazmodeus : Star Wars, Star Trek/Mechwarrior/Traveller
Daniel Stewart : Traveller, Battletech, Star Wars, Star Trek, *BLEEP*
Ancient Dragon Master : BESM
Peet : Traveller, Star Wars, Star Trek
Chobo : Traveller, Star Wars, Star Trek, BattleTech, BESM
Lessah : Traveller, Uhm, er, uhm, uhm, maybe, uhm, brb...
MadCaster : BESM, Star Wars
Infernal Zero : BESM, BattleTech, Traveller/Star Wars/Star Trek

Trawetz71 : Maybe Traveler (From another thread, should be by shortly, not counting vote yet)

BattleTech/Mechwarrior : 10.5 pts
BESM : 20.5 pts
Traveller : 32.25 pts
Star Trek : 6.75 pts
Star Wars : 19.25 pts


The only one I recognise from your list is bleach. I was probably going to play a bleach-like character


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Ancient Dragon Master wrote:
The only one I recognise from your list is bleach. I was probably going to play a bleach-like character

If you like Bleach, you should try the following, you'll like them :

Irregulars at Magical High School
Kinichi, The World's Mightiest Disciple
Ghost in the Shell (All versions, including Arise)
Trigun
Ruroni Kenchen
Gate!
Gundam Wing
Yu Yu Hakesho
KK

Liberty's Edge

Awww come on...it was close...just a small Freudian slip...lol

Hey was is it not on the voting list???


mdt wrote:
MW/BT is all D6 rolls, mostly 2d6 rolls. Traveller is also 2d6. Both game systems are very similar, due to MW being loosely built around the same concept of careers and 2d6 random rolls.

Ok. My votes then:

1. BESM
2. BattleTech
3. Traveller


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@Daniel - Nope, BDSM was not the voting list. :) BESM is, and I gave it credit for your BDSM vote.

Running Totals :

First choice : 5 pts
Second Choice : 3 pts
Third Choice : 1 pt
All other choices : 0.25 pts

Choices given equal weight give points equal to one level lower

YoricksRequiem : Star Trek/Star Wars
AriaRin : Traveller
Stormcrow : Anything not Pathfinder (paraphrase)
Hotaru : BESM, Traveler, Star Wars, Battletech, Star Trek
CucumberTree : Battletech/Traveller
Spazmodeus : Star Wars, Star Trek/Mechwarrior/Traveller
Daniel Stewart : Traveller, Battletech, Star Wars, Star Trek, *BLEEP*
Ancient Dragon Master : BESM
Peet : Traveller, Star Wars, Star Trek
Chobo : Traveller, Star Wars, Star Trek, BattleTech, BESM
Lessah : Traveller, Uhm, er, uhm, uhm, maybe, uhm, brb...
MadCaster : BESM, Star Wars, Traveller
Infernal Zero : BESM, BattleTech, Traveller/Star Wars/Star Trek

Trawetz71 : Maybe Traveler (From another thread, should be by shortly, not counting vote yet)

BattleTech/Mechwarrior : 10.5 pts
BESM : 20.5 pts
Traveller : 33.25 pts
Star Trek : 6.75 pts
Star Wars : 19.25 pts


I changed my second vote from SW to BattleTech.


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Running Totals :

First choice : 5 pts
Second Choice : 3 pts
Third Choice : 1 pt
All other choices : 0.25 pts

Choices given equal weight give points equal to one level lower

YoricksRequiem : Star Trek/Star Wars
AriaRin : Traveller
Stormcrow : Anything not Pathfinder (paraphrase)
Hotaru : BESM, Traveler, Star Wars, Battletech, Star Trek
CucumberTree : Battletech/Traveller
Spazmodeus : Star Wars, Star Trek/Mechwarrior/Traveller
Daniel Stewart : Traveller, Battletech, Star Wars, Star Trek, *BLEEP*
Ancient Dragon Master : BESM
Peet : Traveller, Star Wars, Star Trek
Chobo : Traveller, Star Wars, Star Trek, BattleTech, BESM
Lessah : Traveller, Uhm, er, uhm, uhm, maybe, uhm, brb...
MadCaster : BESM, Battle Tech,- Traveller
Infernal Zero : BESM, BattleTech, Traveller/Star Wars/Star Trek

Trawetz71 : Maybe Traveler (From another thread, should be by shortly, not counting vote yet)

BattleTech/Mechwarrior : 13.5 pts
BESM : 20.5 pts
Traveller : 33.25 pts
Star Trek : 6.75 pts
Star Wars : 16.25 pts


At this stage I am giving traveller 1 point correct?


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No, the only one you listed was BESM, so I put 5 to BESM and nothing to the others. I may have misread.

It doesn't matter anyway, I think we have enough interest for a game, and the overwhelming choice, both in first choices, and in breadth of choices (it was picked as 2nd or 3rd by over 80% of those showing interest) was Traveller. So I guess I'll go with the traveller game. I'll put the recruiting thread up shortly.

Thanks everyone for your interest, and for the feedback.


Traveller Classic is this book, right?


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That would be the one.

Thread here

I won't be checking this thread as much anymore. FYI

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