Death Slayer PrC and how effective with other channels sources


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Lantern Lodge

I'm looking into making a Death Slayer, and while talking my friends and I are getting confused with the channel energy.

1. Now if I have channel positive energy from 5 lvls of cleric, do they stack with the channel energy from the PrC? So 5 cleric/10 death slayer, do I get 8d6 when channeling to hurt undead, but only 3d6 to heal the living, from the same 3+wisdom pool?

Or

2.Do I get 2 separate pools of channel energy? One that can heal or damage for 3d6 (cleric) and one that can only be used to harm undead for 5d6 (death slayer)?

I have looked at what the forums say for versitile channeling and channels from different sources. But death slayer is the only time I've seen the channel be limited, outside of the wizards Turn Undead necromancy school.

Thanks for your help,


There is a FAQ regarding Channel Energy from multiple sources not stacking. FAQ link for further details.

In short, unless Death Slayer states it stacks with other forms of Channel Energy, it's going to be a separate pool. The Death Slayer Channel Energy states that it stacks for damaging undead, but not for any other manner.

Based on further wording from the Channel Energy ability, it would actually be a third option:

You get one set of Channels for healing, scaling to your Cleric level, usable 3 + Wisdom times per day. You get another set of Channels, scaling to your Cleric and Death Slayer levels combined, usable 3 + Charisma times per day.

The good news is that all of your Channel Energy feats apply to both types of channeling, and a Phylactery of Positive Channeling would improve both options simultaneously. The bad news is that your pools are keying off of two separate attributes, and your ability to heal via Channeling will be reduced significantly due to lack of scaling.

So, if you're planning to be a super ultra Undead Destroyer, then I'd go for it. I'd honestly suggest simply dipping a level, and taking the rest in Cleric, since this gives you better Channel Energy scaling, better Spellcasting scaling, and Domain Power scaling as well.

Grand Lodge

Small correction, cleric's channels per day are based on Charisma as well Darksol.


Fair enough. They're still technically two separate pools though.

Lantern Lodge

It's does say they stack for harming undead.

Channel Energy (Su): At 1st level, a death slayer gains the power to harm undead with positive energy. This ability functions as a cleric’s ability to channel positive energy to deal damage to undead (but not to heal living creatures), and it counts as channel energy for the purposes of qualifying for feats or determining effects that rely on channel energy. A death slayer uses her class level as her effective cleric level when channeling energy. She can channel energy a number of times per day equal to 3 + her Charisma modifier. She deals 1d6 points of damage at 1st level and an additional 1d6 points of damage every 2 levels thereafter. Death slayer levels stack with levels in any class that grants channel energy (if any) for the purpose of determining the number of damage dice her channel energy ability deals to undead, but this channel energy can never do anything other than harm undead. An undead creature that takes damage from this channeled energy can attempt a Will save to halve the damage; the DC of this save is equal to 10 + the death slayer’s class level + her Charisma modifier. The death slayer must be able to present either her holy symbol or a sawtooth sabre to use this ability.

So it is 2 pools of channel energy one that stacks with cleric levels for harming undead only?

Or

One pool of channeling, that changed the damage dice based on healing or hurting undead.


It's two pools.


Ok. So... now what happens when we have a cleric that channels negative energy?

Lantern Lodge

You would have 2 pools, one of Negative Energy and one of Positive Energy used only to hurt undead. You could still use the Channel Smite you get for free to deal Negative energy to the living, but my original intent was to max the Damage vs Undead.

and feats like Extra channeling would have to be chosen which pool it goes to at the start of the day.


Yes, but the wording is fuzzy on what the damage die for the "posative energy that can only hurt undead" pool is

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