Can a horse wear boots?


Rules Questions


Horses have the feet slot. Can it only be used for horseshoes or can they wear regular boots thanks to the wonders of magic item resizing? if so, are the said boots worn on the forelegs or hindlegs? Thank you!


Have you tried to put boots on a horse.

This seems like the sort of thing for applied sciences.

Scarab Sages

Only horseshoes and you need all four

Sczarni

GM PDK wrote:
Horses have the feet slot.

Horse don't have a "feet" slot. They have a "feet [horseshoes]" slot.

Scarab Sages

captain yesterday wrote:

Have you tried to put boots on a horse.

This seems like the sort of thing for applied sciences.

Or Mythbusters.


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Tineke Bolleman wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:

Have you tried to put boots on a horse.

This seems like the sort of thing for applied sciences.

Or Mythbusters.

*readies the pointy stick*

Scarab Sages

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BigNorseWolf wrote:
Tineke Bolleman wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:

Have you tried to put boots on a horse.

This seems like the sort of thing for applied sciences.

Or Mythbusters.
*readies the pointy stick*

Have you seen the Mythbuster eppisodes that featured horses? The horses got treated waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better then some of the co-hosts ;)

Scarab Sages

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Tineke Bolleman wrote:


Have you seen the Mythbuster eppisodes that featured horses? The horses got treated waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better then some of the co-hosts ;)

The other cohosts knew what they were getting into. Most of the horses didn't

Sczarni

This dialogue reminds me of when people first step up to GM...


You know, the makers of the 1984 film Top Secret needed to put a cow in boots. According to the directors commentary on the film, what they discovered is that the cow just kicks the boots off, unless you cut the bottoms of the boots off first. As long as they can feel the ground normally through the bottom of their hooves, cows are fine wearing boots.

Would the same hold true of horses? It seems likely. But I doubt we'll ever really know.

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This thread reminds me that there's a a product I would love to see show up in the Player Companion line someday, something along the lines of the Familiar Folio but for mounts--both animal companions and just trained and purchased/raised mounts in general.

Feats, tricks, and magic items on the numbers side, and more lore of horse and camel breeds of the Inner Sea and stuff about "exotic" mounts, too.

I must admit that as a farm boy and a Kentuckian that I wouldn't mind seeing some--hmmm, what's a good word here?--"rigor," I guess, introduced into the rules treatment of the capabilities of real-world mounts, especially in the areas of combat and long-distance travel. Looking at fantasy-world rationalizations for using canines and bovines as mounts given their temperaments and, more importantly, physiologies, would be interesting too.

Now, all that said, I'm sensitive to the fact that some players of role-playing games, just like some readers and writers of fantasy novels and some viewers and creators of Western films, are actively averse to "realism" in these areas. It would be interesting though. Probably quite challenging from a rules-design perspective, especially since one wouldn't want to do any backward redesigning of existing rules.

Man, I kind of wandered down the garden path there, sorry.

Anyway, I think the existence of magical horseshoes strongly suggests that bipeds and quadrapeds have different "foot slots," so I don't think a horse can wear magical boots.


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Tinalles wrote:

You know, the makers of the 1984 film Top Secret needed to put a cow in boots. According to the directors commentary on the film, what they discovered is that the cow just kicks the boots off, unless you cut the bottoms of the boots off first. As long as they can feel the ground normally through the bottom of their hooves, cows are fine wearing boots.

Would the same hold true of horses? It seems likely. But I doubt we'll ever really know.

Same principle applies to horses.

Horse Boots

Scarab Sages

Pink Dragon wrote:
Tinalles wrote:

You know, the makers of the 1984 film Top Secret needed to put a cow in boots. According to the directors commentary on the film, what they discovered is that the cow just kicks the boots off, unless you cut the bottoms of the boots off first. As long as they can feel the ground normally through the bottom of their hooves, cows are fine wearing boots.

Would the same hold true of horses? It seems likely. But I doubt we'll ever really know.

Same principle applies to horses.

Horse Boots

Good thing they come in SUPER SPARKLE

Sczarni

Christopher Rowe wrote:
This thread reminds me that there's a a product I would love to see show up in the Player Companion line someday, something along the lines of the Familiar Folio but for mounts--both animal companions and just trained and purchased/raised mounts in general.

There is! It even has character Traits that require being a Mount. IIRC there's a riding elk, different types of horse breeds, and an Erutaki Husky.

I don't remember what it's called, tho...

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Nefreet wrote:
Christopher Rowe wrote:
This thread reminds me that there's a a product I would love to see show up in the Player Companion line someday, something along the lines of the Familiar Folio but for mounts--both animal companions and just trained and purchased/raised mounts in general.

There is! It even has character Traits that require being a Mount. IIRC there's a riding elk, different types of horse breeds, and an Erutaki Husky.

I don't remember what it's called, tho...

I was ready to say that you're remembering Animal Archive but I don't think there's a riding elk or a husky in there (I don't have it to hand at the moment, though).

It is however, the product that answers the whole question of this thread. I'm 99% sure there's a chart therein that breaks down what animals have which magic item slots.

Edit to add: I bet it's Knights of the Inner Sea. If I recall correctly there's stuff about different horse breeds and exotic mounts in there.

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Okay, Nefreet called it up top, pointing out the distinction between "feet" and "feet (horsehoes)." (And now that I'm looking more closely I see that that's even a link to an explanatory blog, which kind of renders all of what I've typed below redundant, but hey, I've already typed it.)

The inside front cover of Animal Archive is the place to look for all the answers about animal magic item slots.

In the text, it's confirmed that horses can wear magic horseshoes but not magic boots, and magic saddles but not magic belts.

The specific magic item slots for horses (and other hooved quadrupeds) are: armor, belt (saddle), chest, eyes, feet (horseshoes), head, headband, neck, shoulders, wrist.

Sczarni

Yeah sometimes I'll bold my links when they're mixed in a sentence so that they stand out more, but I didn't this time cuz I figured it was already enough blue.


Thanks all! I wasn't sure if feet[horseshoes] referred to them being the only one being able to wear horseshoes, as opposed to them not being able to wear anything else other than horseshoes. If that makes any sense... now I have a headache... :P


Still would be cool to have a supplement that goes into more depth on mounts (as opposed to Animals more generally, and also including mounts that are not Animals).

Dark Archive

Can a pc wear horseshoes?

Sczarni

Since all 4 must be worn to gain the benefits...


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joe kirner wrote:

Can a pc wear horseshoes?

All you have to do is nail them to your hands and feet.

That won't be a problem, will it...

Scarab Sages

joe kirner wrote:

Can a pc wear horseshoes?

If you're a druid sure... just buy the horseshoes and a masterwork farriers kit, Shoeing a horse should be a DC 10.

Grand Lodge

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Flutter wrote:
joe kirner wrote:

Can a pc wear horseshoes?

If you're a druid sure... just buy the horseshoes and a masterwork farriers kit, Shoeing a horse should be a DC 10.

I guess that also requires the druid not having anything magical in hir feet slot before horsing around...

Dark Archive

Streamwalker wrote:
Flutter wrote:
joe kirner wrote:

Can a pc wear horseshoes?

If you're a druid sure... just buy the horseshoes and a masterwork farriers kit, Shoeing a horse should be a DC 10.
I guess that also requires the druid not having anything magical in hir feet slot before horsing around...

Can i aquire 2 vestigal legs?

I'll be good to go then


Alternatively, use Monstrous Physique to turn yourself into a Centaur or something similar (Monstrous Physique II required for an actual Centaur, since Centaurs are Large), and then you could wear horseshoes.


Shoeing time would be cutting it close on the duration there.


^Yeah, I guess you'd want some kind of horseshoes that clip on like the horse boots that some people linked above, instead of being nailed in -- otherwise, it would be really painful if you miscalculated on the spell duration (or got Dispelled) and had them still on when the spell ended.

Sczarni

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This tangent has me contemplating Centaur Jesus...

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