Best polymorpher?


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I love polymorph, i just love it. So i have a question for you: what is the best polypher which does the folowing things:
-Relatively early game polymorphing
-Effective polymorph at most levels
-A customizable class

Any ideas?


A druid focusing on wild shape comes to mind first.

Many powerful polymorph spells are sorcere/wizard only, so you can also consider wizard (with transmutation arcane school) or sorcerer (for example aberrant or protean).


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Define best a little better.

A druid focused on wild shape has the most personal options.

A Brown Fur Arcanist can share the polymorph. It can use those personal polymorph spells (beast shape, plant shape, monstrous physique, etc) on others. It can also get exploits that allow it to shift the form taken by the spell and continue to cast spells while polymorphed.


The shapechanger bloodline puts sorcerers into the running. But druid is pretty far up there.


Dragon disciples are quite good at turning into dragons Eldritch knights are good options for any arcane that wants to make use of those spells.


There is also a new class coming up designed for shifting.


Druid, mystic past life for the forms you're missing.


What polymorph spells are on a Divine list for Mystic Past Life that aren't on the druid list?

I played a Spell Specialist Arcanist/Dragon Disciple that was pretty cool. Huge Strength score, high Natural Armor, and an Greataxe. It was fun.


With the shapechanger bloodline, all you need is devise new spells for the forms still missing- like objects or outsiders.


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If your game allows 3PP material, Spheres of Power's Shifter (not to be confused with Paizo's upcoming Shifter - woo, same names) is an outstanding polymorph class.


Spheres od Power is outstanding in general.


Azten wrote:

What polymorph spells are on a Divine list for Mystic Past Life that aren't on the druid list?

I played a Spell Specialist Arcanist/Dragon Disciple that was pretty cool. Huge Strength score, high Natural Armor, and an Greataxe. It was fun.

Crap, forgot that MPL only used the same magic type. Too used to Pathfinder Savant's Esoteric Magic. (You can try that, but it'll cost two feats to get back the lost casting level.)


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Metamorph alchemist


Sorcerer gets access to Shapechanger bloodline, Dragon Disciple, and Eldritch Knight as great options, but it also dodges a feat tax most people don't think about when shapeshifting: eschew materials. Your component pouch melds into your new form, so even if your form is capable of providing somatic and verbal components (many can!) you don't have your pouch. Other classes need to pick up eschew materials to get around this problem, but Sorcerers don't have to worry about paying this annoying tax to cast while polymorphed. This is one of the only noteworthy uses of eschew materials, and one of the only chances you'll ever get to actually put this oft-forgotten Sorcerer freebee to use.


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Of course, by the time you are polymorphing yourself with any regularity, you should be able to afford a Polymorphic Pouch. That magic item does not merge with your form when you polymorph, so it is a great place to stash you spell component pouch, among other things you might want to access while polymorphed.


Dasrak wrote:
Sorcerer gets access to Shapechanger bloodline, Dragon Disciple, and Eldritch Knight as great options, but it also dodges a feat tax most people don't think about when shapeshifting: eschew materials. Your component pouch melds into your new form, so even if your form is capable of providing somatic and verbal components (many can!) you don't have your pouch. This is one of the only noteworthy uses of Eschew Materials, and one of the only chances you'll ever get to actually put this oft-forgotten Sorcerer freebee to use.

Handy if you go sorcerer, but druids don't really need it, at least for wild shape--they're already likely to go Natural Spell anyway.


David knott 242 wrote:

Of course, by the time you are polymorphing yourself with any regularity, you should be able to afford a Polymorphic Pouch. That magic item does not merge with your form when you polymorph, so it is a great place to stash you spell component pouch, among other things you might want to access while polymorphed.

It's a move action to draw an item from a polymorphic pouch (it's an extradimensional space, not a proper component pouch), so it's not a perfect solution. Still, it'd work as an alternative if you don't want to blow a feat on the otherwise useless eschew materials.

blahpers wrote:
Handy if you go sorcerer, but druids don't really need it, at least for wild shape--they're already likely to go Natural Spell anyway.

I was talking about arcane polymorph there. Sorry, should have specified. Yes, Druids just pick up Nature Spell and that's the end of the story.

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