Anti-Hellknight; Because Anti-Paladins exist


Pathfinder First Edition General Discussion


A bit vague but what would inverted version of the Hellknights as an organization be like? What would an Anti-Hellknight be in terms of ideals and personality? What would be the focus of their class features if fathomable? Finally, what would make their organization alluring to join?


Well, since Hellknights mainly revere the Nine Hells as a model of military organization, an Anti-Hellknight Organization would probably look to the Celestial Host as a model for their organization.


Hellknight are above all else one thing: Lawful.

So, some sort of Anti-Hellknights would be a rather chaotic bunch. Which would imply: not very organized.


Yeah, probably something like revolutionary cells. I would think the Rose of Kintargo from Hells Rebels is probably a good representation of anti-Hell Knights. Small cells of anarchists that are trying to overthrow governments and law. Extremely anti-authoritarian.
If you want to play them up as funny, look at Life of Brians Peoples Revolutionary Front.

Silver Crusade

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A chaotic neutral-leaning-good martial prestige class. Social anarchists. Possibly modeled after azata. Tend to work independently rather than in units.


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Honestly, I'm not a fan of everything in the game having a mirror-image opposite. I've never liked the antipaladin, for example.

That said, you might consider creating a loosely-knit coalition called the "Warriors of Elysium," who venerate the beauty, mercy, and individualist self-sufficiency of the Azatas. I can't see a group that chaotic or individually-focused to have any unifying traditions or a typical regimen of training. Consequently, I wouldn't think a prestige class would be all that appropriate for such a group: every member would be unique.


Haladir wrote:
Honestly, I'm not a fan of everything in the game having a mirror-image opposite. I've never liked the antipaladin, for example

I totally agree. The anti-paladin already oozes of too many mirrored phrases and abilities.

As for the question at hand... How about a barbarian horde? They are a chaotic wave of barbarians... sounds about right to me :P


I don't necessarily consider the antipaladin/paladin relationship to be applicable to the Hellknight because a Hellknight is a specific organization that sprung out of a specific philosphy; that regardless of what one thinks of their morality, Hell runs a tight ship, and there's value to be found in it's structure and order.

In universe, paladin's aren't a single, collective organization. They're divinely empowered warriors that belong to several different organizations - specifically the church of every LG aligned god and most NG and some LN ones. Across those churches they follow a wide swath of philosophies and adhere to a variety of different codes. The only thing that connects them is their powers and that they adhere to a code, and lose their powers if they don't.

It makes sense that evil deities would empower followers with similar abilities to a paladin just as a cleric of an evil deity has similar but different powers to the cleric of a good deity(channel positive/negative, access to [good] or [evil] spells).

Hellknights aren't a divinely empowered base class. They're a planar-inspired prestige class. Their opposite number would be something like others have suggested; the Rose of Kintargo or the hypothetical prestige class Isonaroc proposes.

Shadow Lodge

While I would like to read something about LG Hellknights who want to look to archons of heaven for inspiration about Perfect Justice, I get that devils are the ones who encouraging imposing their will on everyone.
Though worshippers of Milani could style themselves as anti-Hellknights, fighting back against their oppressive regimes.


I nominate the Chevalier prestige class as the Anti-Hellknight organization. Three levels, a small deviation from your main character concept, and abilities to boost any of the more chaotically good aligned martial types.

I like the flavor too. Good way to get smite evil without being Lawful good.

Silver Crusade

In terms of organizations, I'd probably go with the Eagle Knights. They are everything Cheliax hates. Especially about being Andoran.

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