Card Feats while gaining a tier


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The PFSACG guide says

"After upgrading your deck, if your deck doesn’t have enough of certain card types to meet the Cards List requirement on your character card, and your character is Tier 2 or lower, choose the extra cards you need from your Class Deck using the Hierarchy in the sidebar on page 7. If your character is Tier 3 or higher, you may instead choose appropriate cards that have an adventure deck number at least 2 lower than your tier."

It seems intuitive, but I believe the guide also doesn't tell you when you advance your tier. Is it after all scenario rewards, etc have been granted and you've gotten your tier rewards?

The intuitive answer seems to be yes, but I want to check. If so, I'll ask for an edit in the guide for clarity.


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Page 14 of the Guide says "Anytime after winning your fourth new scenario in any tier, you can choose to advance a tier; after winning your sixth, you must advance a tier."

As-written, I think you get to choose the order in which rewards are applied. So, if you want to advance in tier before receiving scenario/adventure rewards, you can do so. In any case, all rewards are received before rebuilding your deck (according to base game rulebook), so if you choose to advance in tier after the 4th scenario, you earn a card feat and then later rebuild your deck. As such, if you don't have enough cards you use your new tier to determine what card to grab.

(I might have confused you with my posts on the PbP because I chose to not advance in tier, so everything I said I was doing is predicated on that choice)


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This had to do with what you said, but this was also something that came up in my OP session this week; we were finishing up 3-4 and that has a Card Feat reward; someone in my group wondered whether or not we could take an AD3 card as the new card for the card feat because we were tiering up.

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Guide, p.9 wrote:
A major difference in Adventure Card Guild play is the method by which you improve your deck after completing a scenario. This happens in three steps: earning scenario rewards, earning tier rewards, and upgrading your deck.

So if a scenario reward were tier-dependent (I don't think any are), it would be applied before you have the opportunity to tier up, while upgrading your deck happens after you have the opportunity to tier up.


That's a good point. Because a couple of my characters have jumped from campaign to campaign, they are not always playing at-tier.
So while I think of rewards like "draw an item from the box" as tier-dependent, need to remember they're really adventure-dependent.

Speaking of said jumping around...
Say a character plays all of 0-1 and then all of 2-1, are they still tier 2? Do they get their 2nd-tier feats for the 2-1 scenarios?
Seems every time I go to a con, people are playing x-1 while I'm looking for x-2. Have two such characters now. :D

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After successfully completing 4 scenarios, a character *may* advance a tier, and after 6, she *must* advance a tier.

0-1 and 2-1 each have 6 scenarios (A through F). So:

• If the character were choosing to advance whenever she had the opportunity, it'd look like this:

Tier 1
0-1A: Skill Feat
0-1B: Power Feat
0-1C: No tier reward
0-1D: Card feat, advance to Tier 2

Tier 2
0-1E: Skill Feat
0-1F: Power Feat
2-1A: No tier reward
2-1B: Card feat, advance to Tier 3

Since you can only play scenarios within 1 adventure deck number of your tier, at this point, she'd be locked out of playing 2-1C through F (or any other X-1 scenario).

• If the character is choosing to advance only when required, it'd look like this:

Tier 1
0-1A: Skill Feat
0-1B: Power Feat
0-1C: No tier reward
0-1D: Card feat
0-1E: No tier reward
0-1F: No tier reward, advance to Tier 2

Tier 2
2-1A: Skill Feat
2-1B: Power Feat
2-1C: No tier reward
2-1D: Card feat
2-1E: No tier reward
2-1F: No tier reward, advance to Tier 3


Yeah, it's the latter. Sounds good. Thanks.

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