MM5 Lamp of Fiery Visions


Rules Questions and Gameplay Discussion


The Lamp of Fiery Visions has powers of
"Display this card next to a location. While displayed you may recharge this card to examine the top 2 cards of this location deck."

If another character is at the location where it is displayed, can they recharge it? Or only the character who displayed?


You means you, the person who played the card. If they wanted to say a character at that location they would say so explicitly.


I'd agree. For some insight, see this discussion about the Jolly Roger.

Also, compare it to cards such as Elemental Skin or Pillar of Life. Those cards make it clear that all characters at the location can use it. So, the default is that "you" is the character that played the card.


Thanks!
And the link was quite helpful. It makes more sense now. Displaying at the location seems odd at first, but I can see why.

Grand Lodge

I agree with the ruling, but this has the unfortunate consequence of requiring cards to have memories, IMO.


Really, you have to have the memory, not the cards. The same is true in quite a few situations. For example, playing Strength has you display the card by another character. When it is time to recharge it at the end of the turn, you need to remember that you are the one who played it.

Rage is a different issue, you display (with no qualification, so in front of you) but you choose another character. It recharges not at the end of "the" turn but at the end of "your" turn. That means it could be almost 6 full turns before you recharge it. That means that 5 turns after you play it, it might be applying to someone and you have to remember who you chose.

I've been working on little tokens to place on displayed cards to signify the character that played it and/or the character it applies to. I haven't had a problem remember, but making things like that is fun. At least for me.

Oh, and don't forget the Bunyip, which increases the difficulty of your checks for the rest of the turn, which means it will be affecting you long after it has been banished or shuffled back into the deck.


Bringing this post back-not quite dead yet (although the title may be misleading:)

I ran into the barrier Lightning Storm.
"Display this barrier next to your location.
While displayed, when you start your turn...."

Based on Irgy's reply above it says "you"; does that mean the storm only applies to the character that encounters it originally?
I've been bouncing it around while it zaps all characters.


You've played it right. "You" on a boon and "you" on a bane are different. This is in the rules from the section about banes:

MM Rulebook p25 wrote:
If a bane says an effect happens if or when you do a particular thing, it applies to any character who does that thing.

Lightning Storm is a bane. It has a power that is an effect that happens when you start your turn at it's location. It applies to any character who starts their turn at it's location.

Though, admittedly, the sentence before that should probably be removed: "These special rules apply when you encounter the bane." Powers are now defined as being active on page 16 in the sidebar. I don't think we need banes to say they apply when you encounter them. And this has never been completely true, since Collapsed Ceiling, back in RotR, had a power that applied while it was faceup on top of the deck.


Hawkmoon269 wrote:


MM Rulebook p25 wrote:
If a bane says an effect happens if or when you do a particular thing, it applies to any character who does that thing.

Thanks! I assumed there was a difference referenced somewhere.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Clarified when bane powers apply in FAQ.

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