What does "touch" mean?


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If an effect occurs when an object is touched, does the touch have to be the result of some action the creature takes?

Or can some other creature initiate an action to have the object touch the target creature?

An example would be an object affected by the spell Node of Blasting.

Symbol of Death has wording to specifically prevent such uses. Some argue that Node of Blasting should act similarly to Symbol of Death in this manner as they are conceptually similar spells.

Others would argue that the prohibition against offensive use is missing from node of blasting, so nothing prohibits it.

I would appreciate any rules reference or Dev/staff clarification anyone knows of.


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Look at it this way, should a 3rd level spell be able to enchant, for free, a number of projectiles that each add 6d6 save for half damage on a hit? Limited only by the number of times the spell is cast. Team up with a necromancer to outfit the undead legion. And then cast it on the darts in every trap in your layer. You see where I'm going?


I think it's ambiguous.


MichaelCullen wrote:

If an effect occurs when an object is touched, does the touch have to be the result of some action the creature takes?

Or can some other creature initiate an action to have the object touch the target creature?

An example would be an object affected by the spell Node of Blasting.

Symbol of Death has wording to specifically prevent such uses. Some argue that Node of Blasting should act similarly to Symbol of Death in this manner as they are conceptually similar spells.

Others would argue that the prohibition against offensive use is missing from node of blasting, so nothing prohibits it.

I would appreciate any rules reference or Dev/staff clarification anyone knows of.

If symbol of death didnt have that clarification it would be totally reasonable to use in the manner youre trying to use Node of Blasting. Node of Blasting does not have that caveat and therefore is subject to be used offensively.

However, you are also a potential target for the spell and can trigger the spell to inflict that damage to you. You would need a method of using items with Node of Blasting without actually touching them. For example: Ring of Telekinesis, or perhaps Mage Hand.

I dont think youre going to get an "official ruling" on this, so remember: Rule of Cool.

Symbol of Death is a significantly more powerful spell and there are equally powerful spells comparable to an extra 6d6 on an attack at this level.

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