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[Legendary Games] Conquest: Rage of Wyrms AP announced!


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Cool! Definitely looking forward to this AP. Been years since I participated in a Dragonlance campaign and I miss having dragons as key players of an engaging storyline.

One thing I would ask for is to allow for building relationships (as described in the Ultimate Relationships series) and factions (as described in Ultimate Factions) in this Dragon AP. This makes it easier to players to want to try non-aggressive tactics first with dragons to see if they can establish an alliance of sorts with some of them. :)

CB

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2015 Top 16

Wow. Jason, Robert, this sounds pretty amazing.

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My original pitch to Jason was a psychological horror AP, and then we batted this back and forth and I got really excited. For folks who know me, it takes a lot to make me more excited about something when a good horror story is on the table.

So, yeah. This got me to table horror aspirations. Read into that what you will :)


Now I want the psychological horror Ap... :/

Still excited about dragons, though...

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It's still on my to-do list. Twin Peaks/Silent Hill/The Others/Jacob's Ladder the Adventure Path is one of my bucket-list items.

Scarab Sages Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Legendary Games

Robert Brookes wrote:

My original pitch to Jason was a psychological horror AP, and then we batted this back and forth and I got really excited. For folks who know me, it takes a lot to make me more excited about something when a good horror story is on the table.

So, yeah. This got me to table horror aspirations. Read into that what you will :)

The horror AP is still on the list!

But this... oh yes... this is gonna be good!


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Robert...you just listed aa ton of my favorite things on this plante...just missing "The Reflecting Skin." ;)

Sorry for the threadjack and GREAT to hear that it's still on the list.

Jason: What you said about dragons rang true with me, eliminates my concerns regarding 3.X's late tendency to just cram half-dragon on everything. As long as you make dragons feel like dragons, like actual characters, and not random difficulty-spike-encounters, I'm good -and since that seems to be your plan, consider me to be fired up! ^^


Well, there is The Blight if you want more quality horror, I suppose... and for now, I guess I'll just keep tabs on this. XD

Scarab Sages

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I hope in addition to evil dragons there will be lots of good dragons for the party to work with (would really like to get use out of my 3pp dragonrider book...just saying). Looking forward to this one, I love dragons.


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Jason Nelson wrote:
It's too early to say for 100% certain, but my best guess at this point is that we would get writing going and do some art and map buys early just out of our ongoing revenues so that we could start releasing the adventures in the run-up to a Kickstarter compilation project next spring to fund the majority of the art and map buys and print/ship costs, allowing us to (hopefully) get the full thing completed and shipped to us in time for GenCon next year.

I'm in favor of the KS approach for the compilation project. But I like being able to get the entire piece in one shot, either as one bigger hardcover, or multiple smaller soft covers. Basically all at once is nicer for me than piece meal over time and getting it in a KS style seems to make that work for both me and LG. It's how I've got several large chunks of LG products because I can also get them in physical copies.


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So this sounds pretty interesting. When might we hear more about this?

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Interesting!

Scarab Sages Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Legendary Games

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Kcinlive wrote:
So this sounds pretty interesting. When might we hear more about this?

Robert and I are still banging away on the outline and major plot points. We hope to start assigning authors by the end of June, and that combined with completing the Forest Kingdom Campaign Compendium and fulfilling the print books for the Aethera Campaign Setting that just arrived today in my driveway will take up most of this month, so best guess for any major update (aside from the occasional art preview or teaser) would be beginning of July.

But little bits here and there may be coming sooner than you think!

Scarab Sages Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Legendary Games

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Laurial wrote:
I hope in addition to evil dragons there will be lots of good dragons for the party to work with (would really like to get use out of my 3pp dragonrider book...just saying). Looking forward to this one, I love dragons.

I'll say that we're not aiming for a full-on Dragonlance style setting where the armies of good and evil dragons (once everyone is on the field) are more or less even, but there will be a number of opportunities to make friendly connections with dragons and maybe even saddle up.


sounds more interesting every day
big lover of dragons in rpgs, they are useful in all sorts of ways


I've been desiring a dragon AP for so long . . . I'm very intrigued by this one! I'll be watching its progression with great interest!


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Jason Nelson wrote:

Journey to a lost continent.

Uncover a deadly past.

And watch your future die.

Coming 2018 from Legendary Games - CONQUEST: RAGE OF WYRMS, a massive 20-level adventure saga and campaign setting featuring dragons, the dream-time, and the conquest of two worlds!

So, Chrono Cross?

Seriously though, this sounds awesome. Sign me up!

Scarab Sages Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Legendary Games

Sub-Creator wrote:
I've been desiring a dragon AP for so long . . . I'm very intrigued by this one! I'll be watching its progression with great interest!

It's something I've wanted to do for a long time too, and we'll be excited to start releasing more information about it as we nail down the outline and start bringing our authors on board.

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Woah , nearly missed that announcement. I'm not the biggest fan of Dragons, but you had me with dream-time.

SOOOOOO excited. :D

Scarab Sages Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Legendary Games

Yay - glad to hear it. Got a new art piece in here. Doing a last few tweaks, but it is looking AMAZING!


It sounds like it'd fit in quite well with Golarions' Arcadia, especially if you mixed some of the native tribal history with a Polynesian-vibe. Plus the draconic history would give a reason why they'd use less technology compared to those across the sea.


You just got a buyer. Dragons in Paizo's APs have been either high ranking minions, secondary encounters (the white dragons in Jade Regent and Rise of the Runelords for example), or simple random encounters, not either the grand threats they should be or the movers and shakers that I truly love them as. The ward keeping the dragons asleep sounds like a variation of the mythal based Rage of the Dragons the elves set up in Forgotten Realms, where all dragons would rage across the continent and kill off the greatest of their number every so many years, based on the cycle of a comet the elves called the King Killer. They set this us so while the dragons would destroy parts of civilization, only the weaker dragons would survive, causing them to be less destructive and easier to take care of by elves or other Realms powers. Of course, the elves didn't foresee the rise of other civilizations that crowded them out, so the plan fell apart.

Scarab Sages Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Legendary Games

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DSXMachina wrote:
It sounds like it'd fit in quite well with Golarions' Arcadia, especially if you mixed some of the native tribal history with a Polynesian-vibe. Plus the draconic history would give a reason why they'd use less technology compared to those across the sea.

On Golarion, I think Arcadia or probably Sarusan even more so would be great locations to place this AP.


Jason Nelson wrote:
DSXMachina wrote:
It sounds like it'd fit in quite well with Golarions' Arcadia, especially if you mixed some of the native tribal history with a Polynesian-vibe. Plus the draconic history would give a reason why they'd use less technology compared to those across the sea.
On Golarion, I think Arcadia or probably Sarusan even more so would be great locations to place this AP.

Heh.

Chronicler Bob: "What did you find?"
Adventurer Joe: "I don't remember - it was Sarusan, but hey, loot!"

weeks pass invasion occurs

Chronicler Bob: "What did you do to piss off an entire continent?!!"
Adventurer Joe: "I told you, I don't remember! Maybe they want their loot back!"

Scarab Sages Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Legendary Games

TimD wrote:
Jason Nelson wrote:
DSXMachina wrote:
It sounds like it'd fit in quite well with Golarions' Arcadia, especially if you mixed some of the native tribal history with a Polynesian-vibe. Plus the draconic history would give a reason why they'd use less technology compared to those across the sea.
On Golarion, I think Arcadia or probably Sarusan even more so would be great locations to place this AP.

Heh.

Chronicler Bob: "What did you find?"
Adventurer Joe: "I don't remember - it was Sarusan, but hey, loot!"

weeks pass invasion occurs

Chronicler Bob: "What did you do to piss off an entire continent?!!"
Adventurer Joe: "I told you, I don't remember! Maybe they want their loot back!"

Ahahahahaaaaa

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I think it will be a lot of fun to adapt it to my homebrew, especially as "Return to a lost continent. Uncover a deadly past." plays a big role in it. Might get interesting with the dragons, though, as I have specific ideas for them in my setting. Though from what Neil Spicer said in his post, it might be that this AP fits way better than I would have imagined from the AP title. Seems to be very similar to some of my own ideas I had for this setting, only much cooler.

As an aside, Jason: When you said 2018 in your original post, that was just a typo and you actually meant to say 2017, right? ;)

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Is the dreamtime in this setting based off Indiginous Australians dreamtime creation stories? I hope so, since that is such a rich tapestry that I haven't seen touched in any roleplay to,date.

Age of Worms had this one section filled with Giants fighting dragons in a cliffside city where the players were stuck in the middle. My players still talk about fighting flights of dragons as being one of the most terrifying things ever. Surviving a strafing run from 6 or 7 different types of dragons while rushing between cover trying to arm giant crossbows armed with dragon harpoons was tense.

Can I assume we'll be seeing stuff of that epic magnitude in this one?

Finally, are we looking to see dragon society more like Eberron than others. I loved Eberron for turning over the tropes on Chromatic and Metallic Dragons. The idea that colour may affect personality, but ambitions and the reading of the dragon scriptures truly dictated what the dragon in question was trying to do in the world. An ancient Red might be employing the PCs to stop a plan where his ancient Gold nemesis wants to wipe out the human settlements on the coast. Godly doesn't hate humans, she just knows that if they stay there, the scriptures talk of untold evil arising. Big red hates humans, but he hates Goldy more and will do anything to thwart her plans. That's how I like my dragons honestly. They think well beyond what mortals consider and have such alien concepts we seriously don't know why they act like they do.


I will consider dropping one of the later parts of this AP into my ongoing mythic campaign. I have high hopes for this AP!

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