Quicksand Buniyup's Electricity damage


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Can it be prevented? I'm asking for intent here, as RAW is pretty unambiguous.

I have a player that argues that there's no much point in the Trigger power's damage to be Electricity, unless it can be 'interacted' with (i.e. prevented in some shape and form), and that maybe QB's second power ("Damage dealt by QB may not be prevented") is probably a case of the RotR Giants, which had to be FAQ'd to "Damage dealt during the encounter..."

Thanks for the assist.

Lone Shark Games

Responding not to your question, but instead to "there's no much point in the Trigger power's damage to be Electricity":
Damage type can matter for some characters, even beyond ability to reduce damage, especially in Mummy's Mask. In the case of Electricity, it matters for Curse of Vulnerability and for several of the adventures in Season of Plundered Tombs that give out scourges when you are dealt Electricity damage, for example.

Grand Lodge

Check out Yoon's second power. It totally matters that the damage is Electricity.


MM Yoon wrote:
When you are dealt Acid, Cold, Electricity, or Fire damage, you may reveal a card that has a trait matching that type to reduce the damage by 3.
Quicksand Bunyip wrote:
Damage dealt by the Quicksand Bunyip may not be reduced.

See the issue here, James?


Yeah, Keith's got the accurate answer.


The issue I see in the initial post from Longshot is in the " can be 'interacted' with (i.e. prevented in some shape and form)" : a damage can be "interacted with" in many other ways than being reduced. And in that case the Electricity type might be important.

Suppose you have a location that says "if you are dealt Electricity damage, bury the cards instead of discarding it" or a scenario that says "when you are dealt Electricity damage, first discard Allies if you have some" or many others things like that that we already saw in the game... could even be "when you are dealt Electricity damage, recharge the cards instead of discarding them". That would be "preventing them in some sort" without "reducing" them, so that would indeed work.

"Typing" damage is far from only being for purpose of damage reduction.

IMHO.

Grand Lodge

Doppelschwert wrote:
MM Yoon wrote:
When you are dealt Acid, Cold, Electricity, or Fire damage, you may reveal a card that has a trait matching that type to reduce the damage by 3.
Quicksand Bunyip wrote:
Damage dealt by the Quicksand Bunyip may not be reduced.
See the issue here, James?

Yup. My bad. Didn't have a Sand Bunyip in front of me when I read this.


So here's a weird (related) question: Is the Electricity damage dealt by the Quicksand Bunyip? Several other cards (Shock Toad, Enchanter, Bonecrusher Wizard) explicitly say that they are the ones dealing the damage. Quicksand Bunyip does not. Usually this would not matter, but here it does.


In PACG, if a power written on a bane card specifically assigns damage to a character, then it is that bane that is dealing the damage.

That said: I don't have the card in front of me, but doesn't it actually say the Bunyip deals the Electricity damage?


elcoderdude wrote:

In PACG, if a power written on a bane card specifically assigns damage to a character, then it is that bane that is dealing the damage.

That said: I don't have the card in front of me, but doesn't it actually say the Bunyip deals the Electricity damage?

Google Image Search does, though. The text goes "When you examine this card, ... you are dealt 1d4 Electricity damage."


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Many banes (monsters included) do say something more like "The Quicksand Bunyip deals you 1d4 Electricity damage." But not all. Many of the barriers that deal you damage simply say "If undefeated, you are dealt 1d4 Fire damage" or something similar. But the "source" isn't always specified in the text of the power. Given the emphasis on using clear and concise language in the game, having the source be explicit in the text is both longer and more awkward of a sentence. Compare:

When you examine this card, the Quicksand Bunyip deals you 1d4 Electricity damage.
When you examine this card, you are dealt 1d4 Electricity damage.

But, to the original question, as elcoderdude said, the source is the card with the power (or failed check to defeat) that dealt you damage. The one caveat I'd give is that power might specify a different source. For example, if a scenario said "When you encounter a monster, you are dealt 1 Combat damage" then I'd say the source was the scenario card, not the monster. But if a scenario said "When you encounter a monster, that monster deals you 1 Combat damage" then I'd say the source was the monster, since the scenario explicitly declares the source. Put another way, unless the source is explicitly states, then the source is the card with the power or check to defeat that dealt you damage.

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