My booze addled mind wants to poison you.


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I am wondering about making a character that uses Calistria divine fighting technique, unfortunately I drank for about 14 hours yesterday (finished my degre) and making my mind do the thoughts is hard right now.

Now I'm pretty sure there is a race that gets Cha and Dex and has a poison racial trait which seems fun, but I'm wondering what class that race would pick. I'm not interested in a Mesmerist or a bard, Just as an FYI xD

Not using that race I'm wondering if there is an archetype of the alchemist that can do a lot with poison. Or maybe an investigator? Can they do poison?

Scarab Sages

Lol congratulations. I just finished my BS last week.

The DEX/CHA/poison race you're thinking of are the Vishkanya. One interesting idea for them is, in fact, Fighter - their venom is based off their Constitution, so a class that gives cause to invest more than just 2-5 points in that score is not a bad choice. Also interesting choices for that reason are Barbarian, Bloodrager, and Swashbuckler. Vigilante and Medium could work, too, if you are of a mind. A Kineticist who poisoned its blasts would be very silly and require a very permissive DM.

As for Alchemists and Investigators, there are a couple of poison-emphasizing Alchemist Archetypes of middling quality (I don't like how they did them, nor particularly understand why), and yes, Investigators can do poison.


Ooo a vishkanya Swashbuckler doing whip things? Could that be a thing? Sounds like a thing.

Now the question remains... what do people with whips do xD

Also
Are investigator poisons good?

Scarab Sages

Chromantic Durgon <3 wrote:
Ooo a vishkanya Swashbuckler doing whip things? Could that be a thing? Sounds like a thing.

Bear in mind the unfortunate limitations of whips in this game. You probably couldn't deliver poisons with them, normally - however, there is the scorpion whip. Also good, were your DM to allow it, would be the old Lasher prestige class from 3.0's Sword and Fist (it would require a touch of adaptation to Pathfinder rules, but surprisingly little, I think).

Chromantic Durgon <3 wrote:


Also
Are investigator poisons good?

No better than anyone else's. :/


Calistria divine fighting technique put poison on your whip.


Congrats to newly gradumacated folks! And pointing out that the masked avevenger arche for swasbuckler does whip stuff, Zorro inspire.


Thanks :)

Sadly mysterious avenger requires good alignment and Calistria wants chaotic neutral.

Scarab Sages

Well, unless one of the feats you're looking at specifically demands CN or something, there's nothing wrong with a Calistrian being CG.


Divine fighting technique feats have the prerequisite that you match the gods alignment :(


IIRC there are two sources for divine fighting techniques, Divine Anthology and Weapon Master's Handbook, and one of them requires you to be the same alignment (whether you worship the deity or not) while the other requires you to worship the deity (whether you're of the same alignment or not). You could look into that :-)


It looks like the Blade and Tankard style just below Poisoned Lash is Chaotic Good. It would serve equally well in this case and would suit Vishkanya swashbuckler.

Since the tankard is considered a weapon, you could envenom it (as well as the rapier) and fight like so. However, being a tankard, you could also fill it with poison (contact poison in this case), though that would have to come from another source, since letting you fill a tankard from your own bodily venom is probably a bit much, and it isn't contact poison, but if you're going to be a character that uses poison, it's good to have a variety.

Similar to the Poisoned Lash feat, which lets you use contact poison on a touch attack without needing damage the foe, Blade and Tankard would let you use Dirty Trick to splash it in their face (with the added effect of also blinding them.) So that might be an option, though I'll admit this is the first time I've looked at those feats, so I might be missing something.


@Fuzzy-Wuzzy
Well that's confusing xD unfortunately I don't have the Divine anthology and the pfsrd for divine fighting techniques doesn't seem to be working for me :(

@Pizza Lord
I'm mostly interested in trying to make Calistria fighting technique.


The Archives of Nethys has the "must worship deity" version of the feat.

It is a bit wonky. I imagine the later one was meant to correct the original one? Except IIRC not all techniques are in either of them so sometimes you must use one form of the prereq. And, darn, looks like Calistria's is WMH-only. If you're not in PFS and your GM uses AoN as a reference (or you get Divine Anthology) they'll probably let you get it with the worship-deity prereq anyway. If you are in PFS I have no idea how it works except that you'll probably need to own both. Good luck!


Can we create a 'whipflask'? 'Heh-wip flask'? Like a hip-flask but where the handle secretly holds a liquid...? Or a whip where the handle is an actual tankard with a long trailing lash?

No? Damn... probably not I guess...

Scarab Sages

Pizza Lord wrote:

Can we create a 'whipflask'? 'Heh-wip flask'? Like a hip-flask but where the handle secretly holds a liquid...? Or a whip where the handle is an actual tankard with a long trailing lash?

No? Damn... probably not I guess...

Why not synthesize the two even further and come up with a weaponized novelty snake-in-a-can?

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