2 levels of Magus :( that's not great unless I'm missing something xD
Although multiclassing is a tricky business at the best of times.
2 levels of Magus isn't ideal, but I can see the uses. Arcane pool probably gives him an effective +1 on his hits, helping out, and the occasional spell combat with true strike, particularly for a combat maneuver could be pretty useful.
while true you just need to be carful with what profession and crafting you choose that will allow you to do so with one skillretraining is a thingRetraining doesn't bypass the limit that you, as a Fighter, don't have a caster level in which to take Crafting feats with, or that you can only take Master Craftsman for one Craft or Profession skill, period, and you can't take the feat multiple times to cover all forms of crafting. If you're going to argue that you can retrain Master Craftsman for each type of craft, then you're going to have to retrain every time you craft something different than what you crafted prior, which costs time (5 days per switch) and money (300g+ per switch), the former eating into your downtime, the latter eats into your WBL, resulting in less crafting money (and crafting time) for the stuff you're proposing (meaning you may not even craft what you propose).
You can try and justify your argument all you like, but the fact of the matter is that your playstyle is too much of an outlier to consider as something typical to a given table, which means suggestions like these aren't very helpful to the discussion.
You wouldn't be able to craft both your belt/gloves and your weapon with this feat, whereas your calculations assumed that you could.
Needless to say, even giving you the most favorable outcome, you're still overbudget, and also, the likelihood that a Fighter will have the skill ranks or desire to take Crafting feats is a rarity of its own.
The EDV listed in that spreadsheet is incredibly low for martial types. It's not that hard to hit around 200EDV at level 12.
How are you calculating? Even AM Barbarian is only getting 161 at level 12?
It's certainly possible with buffs, even self buffs. I'm just not sure that they are to be taken into account for comparison purposes. It's hard to suppose what a reasonable buff is. Perhaps self buffs should be allowed?
Those are all self buffs with no time spent buffing (heroism lasts 10min/level), enlarge can be auto casted when rage starts; haste from boots.It's certainly possible with buffs, even self buffs. I'm just not sure that they are to be taken into account for comparison purposes. It's hard to suppose what a reasonable buff is. Perhaps self buffs should be allowed?
I'm inclined to count these, especially the heroism as it will be up almost every fight.
retraining is a thingRetraining doesn't bypass the limit that you, as a Fighter, don't have a caster level in which to take Crafting feats with, or that you can only take Master Craftsman for one Craft or Profession skill, period, and you can't take the feat multiple times to cover all forms of crafting. If you're going to argue that you can retrain Master Craftsman for each type of craft, then you're going to have to retrain every time you craft something different than what you crafted prior, which costs time (5 days per switch) and money (300g+ per switch), the former eating into your downtime, the latter eats into your WBL, resulting in less crafting money (and crafting time) for the stuff you're proposing (meaning you may not even craft what you propose).
You can try and justify your argument all you like, but the fact of the matter is that your playstyle is too much of an outlier to consider as something typical to a given table, which means suggestions like these aren't very helpful to the discussion.
a fighter can gain a caster level from picking a race with a racial spell like ability, like the Onispawnt Variant Tiefling Heritage from Blood of Fiends. but they are effectively giving up the human bonus feat to do it, you also need a decent intelligence and points in spellcraft, which means you lower your charisma to 5 and take advantage of your racial wisdom bonus.
crafting an professions don't have predesignated terms like perform so all you would need to do is either pick a profession that can make all you need or take craft that would allow you to craft everything like craft equipmentwhile true you just need to be carful with what profession and crafting you choose that will allow you to do so with one skillretraining is a thingRetraining doesn't bypass the limit that you, as a Fighter, don't have a caster level in which to take Crafting feats with, or that you can only take Master Craftsman for one Craft or Profession skill, period, and you can't take the feat multiple times to cover all forms of crafting. If you're going to argue that you can retrain Master Craftsman for each type of craft, then you're going to have to retrain every time you craft something different than what you crafted prior, which costs time (5 days per switch) and money (300g+ per switch), the former eating into your downtime, the latter eats into your WBL, resulting in less crafting money (and crafting time) for the stuff you're proposing (meaning you may not even craft what you propose).
You can try and justify your argument all you like, but the fact of the matter is that your playstyle is too much of an outlier to consider as something typical to a given table, which means suggestions like these aren't very helpful to the discussion.
You wouldn't be able to craft both your belt/gloves and your weapon with this feat, whereas your calculations assumed that you could.
Needless to say, even giving you the most favorable outcome, you're still overbudget, and also, the likelihood that a Fighter will have the skill ranks or desire to take Crafting feats is a rarity of its own.
Craft (Skill) :
(Int)
Source: Core Rulebook
You are skilled in the creation of a specific group of items, such as armor or weapons. Like Knowledge, Perform, and Profession, Craft is actually a number of separate skills. You could have several Craft skills, each with its own ranks. The most common Craft skills are alchemy, armor, baskets, books, bows, calligraphy, carpentry, cloth, clothing, glass, jewelry, leather, locks, paintings, pottery, sculptures, ships, shoes, stonemasonry, traps, and weapons.A Craft skill is specifically focused on creating something. If nothing is created by the endeavor, it probably falls under the heading of a Profession skill.
So YES, yes it does. There is no singular Craft or Profession that covers crafting of weapons, armor, accessories, jewelry or unsloted Wonderous item of all types of metal, leathers, clothes and gems. If your DM (or you) are allowing that much flexibility to the rules tgen there is a terribly daft lack of core understanding of the rules at your table.
Please provide a level by level break down of your proposed Fighter with a Str of 20 and all relevant crafting feats and illustrate how they aquired the prerequisites for them.
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while those are the most common things for crafting there are much much more things that fall under what crafting can do, some are a lot more specific while others are more general all of which craft things as for being able to actually do the crafting step one master craftmen as well as 2 traits that will boost either crafting or profession (there's one that allows you to take 12 instead of take 10 and the other just gives a +2)step 2 craft wondrous items and step 3 craft arms and armor
You're completely ignoring everything I just said. What Craft_____ lets you make everything? Tell me please. Even taking Master Craftsman at level 5, you still need 5 ranks in a craft or profession. And Master Craftsman is only the basis for qualifying for Craft Magic Arms&Armor and Craft Wonderous Item, you would still need to purchase them at levels 7 and 9,unless you're claiming to Retrain your Character levels 1 and 3 (non FBF) feats, which you could technically do for CWI, but NOT CMA&A because it requires a caster level of 5 that you can't fake until level 5 with the purchase of Master Craftsman to begin with. So now you aren't even qualified for Craft Magic Arms & Armor until 7, and at this point you've invested half of what makes you a Fighter into being a smith...
And you still haven't clarified what Craft____ you've invested those precious 2+int mod (+human/fcb) skill points into. Do you have points into Profession? Can you run a business in your downtime to make money off what you make? Do you have points in Appraise, Diplomacy, or Sense Motive like a merchant would? Let's say you retrain to pick up Craft Wonderous Item after learning Master Craftsman at 5. Did you put points into Craft-Jewelery for the Wonderous Items like earrings, rings, amulets and necklaces? Or did you perhaps put them into Craft-Leatherworking to make those sweet gloves, boots, and headbands? What about Craft-Gemcutting to make those cool Figurines and Ioun Stones and stuff?
Or let's look at Craft Magic Arms&Armor. Do you have points in Craft-Armor or Craft-Weapons? Or are you arguing that something more universal like "Craft-Metalworking" is enough of a loophole to do everything? Because your Craft selections are literally THAT SPECIFIC, it's called out specifically in the Skill description that I not only posted, but YOU QUOTED and ignored. Bottom line, if you or your DM thinks that crafting is this cheap, broad and generalized then you are seriously abusing a system that neither of you seem to completely understand.
When I GM, I regularly do character sheet spot checks.... the amount of times Ive come across an "Eh?!?!.... what the hell is this?!" ability/item...
a fighter doesn't need master craftsman if they are a member of a race that has a racial spell like ability with a caster level that scales with their character level. Onispawn Tieflings are a good choice for this because they boost strength and wisdom but lower charisma, freeing up points to train intelligence for skill points on spellcraft and also having a decent SLA.
a fighter doesn't need master craftsman if they are a member of a race that has a racial spell like ability with a caster level that scales with their character level. Onispawn Tieflings are a good choice for this because they boost strength and wisdom but lower charisma, freeing up points to train intelligence for skill points on spellcraft and also having a decent SLA.
Spell like abilities don't count as spellcasting for feats. FAQ
SLA only let you meet requirements of specific spells, not of general casting or caster level.