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Pathfinder: Kingmaker Announced!


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Paizo Employee Community & Digital Content Director

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This new CRPG developed by Owlcat Games and game designer Chris Avalone has just been announced!

Check the press release here.

Silver Crusade

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Apparently.

The Exchange

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Saw this. It seems pretty cool, though there isn't much information yet.

I thought Obsidian had the license to do video games based on PF though?

Silver Crusade

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There are licenses and exclusive licenses. A while back, Obsidian ran a survey which vaguely pointed towards a Pathfinder CRPG, but maybe plans got changed and they prefer to expand the Pillars of Eternity universe.

Jon Brazer Enterprises

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Well damn!


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This looks absolutely balling! I just hope that a Mac version gets developed concurrently. I don't want to have to wait to play it!

Lantern Lodge

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Ok this has awesome potential, I just have to hope it has a console release otherwise it's going to really hurt my wallet.

Silver Crusade

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SQQUUUUUUUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!

Contributor

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The CRPG is real!

Looks like Owlcat games is helming the development with Chris Avallone as the narrative designer!


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My reaction. I'll be doing this for a while. Not sure how long. Could be months. Could be years. We'll just have to see.


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Yesssss!! Exciting! Now I just hope they stay as close to the rule set as possible!

Interesting choice to put kingdom building in there. From what I heard, people were not too happy with the mechanics. I wonder how they change them for the CRPG!

Scarab Sages

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Owlcat Games announced today that they are developing an isometric crpg in the Pathfinder universe.

I for one am super excited! I'm a big fan of games like Divinity: Original Sin, Neverwinter Nights, etc. I hope it has a lot of character customization and great companion interactions. Of course, even better would be multiplayer functionality (even if it was just 2 player). The kingdom-building mechanics should be really interesting, too.

Silver Crusade

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I wouldn't put many eggs in the ruleset basket, using OGL in video games is pretty far in the "it depends, you'll find out when and if WotC sues you" territory.

Sovereign Court

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Hmm, interesting.

Liberty's Edge

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Hmm. Interesting. Though, using some new developer instead of partnering again with Obsidian (who excels at making this type of game) doesn't inspire my confidence off the bat.

That said, I'm still curious to see how this shakes out.

Paizo Employee Community & Digital Content Director

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Merged my thread with the bag's (and a couple others). Sorry for any visual wonkiness, folks! The forums were fighting really good to keep me from doing so. Also, yes, this is a legit announcement! KERMIT FLAIL!


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Well, with the references they give (Baldur's Gate, Planescape: Torment, Icewind Dale) I hope it gives us an idea about the gameplay. Here's hoping!

Silver Crusade

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Chris Lambertz wrote:
Merged my thread with the bag's (and a couple others). Sorry for any visual wonkiness, folks! The forums were fighting really good to keep me from doing so. Also, yes, this is a legit announcement! KERMIT FLAIL!

Thankies Roobit ^w^

Also love the positioning of your's and the bag's posts :3


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Interesting.

Other than Avallone the folks are fairly unknown. I guess we'll see if they can pull this off.

I hope they can, a good CRPG set in the Pathfinder world would open the doors to all kinds of new developments.

Scarab Sages

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yay!!

Silver Crusade

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Chris Lambertz wrote:
Merged my thread with the bag's (and a couple others). Sorry for any visual wonkiness, folks! The forums were fighting really good to keep me from doing so. Also, yes, this is a legit announcement! KERMIT FLAIL!

Merged thread with the bag ... PHRASING!

Liberty's Edge

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They really like making video games on the Kingmaker AP don't they.

Though I am looking forward to the Video game I wish they would pick a different AP to base a video game on.

Liberty's Edge

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I like how the picture at the top of their page is from the "RELEASE THE OWLBEAR!" moment in the game.

(Well, anyway, when I ran Kingmaker, the PCs performed such a moment. It was delightful chaos. Everything was on fire.)

Sovereign Court

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Man, hope my aging laptop can play this.

Dark Archive

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Looks good hope it gets a console release.


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Please please please please please please make it so!

Paizo Employee Customer Service Representative

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Merged threads.

Scarab Sages

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TAKE MY MONEY!!!!!!!!

Sczarni

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Cautiously optimistic.

Avallone + PF IP = Pathfinder: New Vegas? If so, consider me very yes!

Liberty's Edge

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I hope it gets a Linux release.


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Picking Kingmaker as the base is an interesting decision. It seems to be too sandboxy for a traditional, quest-driven computer RPG like Baldur's Gate, but fits better with the relative freedom of a MMORPG. I guess it's not only about the AP's popularity but also about the additional game element of kingdom building. And who knows how much Kingmaker feeling you will actually experience in the final game (for good and bad).

That said, I really look forward to Pathfinder rules being implemented in a computer game. Ok, they likely won't include 200 rulebooks, but it's still more appealing to going back to Neverwinter Night's implemention of 3.0. And opposed to Pathfinder Online (PVP in Pathfinder? WHY?) nothing about the announcement seems off...

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SheepishEidolon wrote:
Picking Kingmaker as the base is an interesting decision. It seems to be too sandboxy for a traditional, quest-driven computer RPG like Baldur's Gate, but fits better with the relative freedom of a MMORPG.

Check out Neverwinter Nights 2 (also an Avellone project). While not perfect, it did get a sense of how you can pull off an open world adventure (at least from 10 years ago). I'd say it has a lot of promise based on that game alone.

Grand Lodge

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Please be turn based. Please be turn based. Please be turn based.

That's a dying breed of RPGs thats in serious need of revival. And it suits the PF system more faithfully than anything real time.


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Nope. In the reddit announcement they said real time with pause. Combine that with pregen companions that aren't the iconics and my interest is rapidly fading. Cooperative or bust.


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It has to avoid Pathfinder mechanics for legal WotC licensing reasons. Not being turn-based is almost inevitable.

I'm glad to not have the iconics as companions, personally. Nice as they are, I'd rather see new characters written for the roles.

Silver Crusade

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You're not the target.

Like any spinoff to other media, the cRPG is primarily aimed at getting video gamers to know Pathfinder. Existing Pathfinder fans are a secondary target group.


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As far as not using iconics, isn't that the iconic barbarian on the left of the header image on the website?


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Definitely wasn't thinking I would see something like this today. Very cool.

Congrats Paizo, hopefully this is just the beginning of breaking into other media types.


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Well then I hope the market for isometric real time with pause rpgs is a lot larger than I think it is

Silver Crusade

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It's not super big, but even a small slice of the video games market is much bigger than the entire PNP RPG industry.

Dark Archive

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So this is confusing .-. I thought that Obsidian was doing something Pathfinder related, if they aren't thats disappointing. Second thing to be confused about is that whats up with new studio composed of veterans from random not that notable games? Like Avellone is most notable of bunch, but apparently their game is adaption of AP instead of original touch so I don't think his writing style will come through as much as normally?


Corvus,

My understanding is Obsidian was doing the CARD game, not necessarily a full on Pathfinder game. Whether or not that still is the case...is unclear.

As for it not being original...eh. I mean it is Kingmaker! Lots of room for things, in my book.

Dark Archive

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Like I don't mind it not being original, just surprised they went with Kingmaker as first game instead of something like RotR that has gotten adapted to almost every form of media by now xD (or at least adventure card game & audio drama)

Paizo Employee CEO

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CorvusMask wrote:
So this is confusing .-. I thought that Obsidian was doing something Pathfinder related, if they aren't thats disappointing. Second thing to be confused about is that whats up with new studio composed of veterans from random not that notable games? Like Avellone is most notable of bunch, but apparently their game is adaption of AP instead of original touch so I don't think his writing style will come through as much as normally?

Obsidian still has the rights to do their own CRPG, but they are non-exclusive. Owl Cat Games is a part of my.com, which has done a ton of games over the years. Here is some info from their Wikipedia page.

Owl Cat Games will be at PaizoCon in just a few short days and they have a playable demo of the game already set to go. :) We got to play it here in the offices a few months back and everybody was impressed.

Very happy that we are finally going to be able to scratch that CRPG itch!

-Lisa


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Hopefully it's turn based. The Baldur's Gate system never really worked too well for anything concerning movement or AoE, plus Silent Storm is listed as one of the things devs previously worked on and Silent Storm was a great example of how good turn based could be.

Paizo Employee Director of Licensing

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Zonto wrote:

Hmm. Interesting. Though, using some new developer instead of partnering again with Obsidian (who excels at making this type of game) doesn't inspire my confidence off the bat.

That said, I'm still curious to see how this shakes out.

Owlcat Games is a newer studio for a company that has done quite a few big projects. Up till now they are more well known for their work in the European market.

Paizo Employee Director of Licensing

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Dragnmoon wrote:

They really like making video games on the Kingmaker AP don't they.

Though I am looking forward to the Video game I wish they would pick a different AP to base a video game on.

Our thought is that the players have the most amount of freedom with Kingmaker.

Paizo Employee Director of Licensing

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Armenius wrote:
Kingmaker? Ehhh, If it's not real time with pause or has co-op I'll get it otherwise I'll pass (which really means I'll only guy one copy because my girlfriend will get it either way)

It will be real-time with pause. No finalized decision on co-op.

Paizo Employee Director of Licensing

Michael Monn wrote:
I hope it gets a Linux release.

Undecided

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